3538m released

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 23, 2007, 01:27 AM

hi there

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here's 3538m:

changes:
- Added support for analog-ins on A2ZS Notebook
- Fixed issue with 24/96 router (pls verify!)
- Fixed skin memory leak issue (Note: always use Zip instead of Rar)
- Fixed EFX effects boot time issue (related to the above)
- SDK: Added passthru on/off functions
- Fixed issue with double-click, added one more option
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this is a final release candidate
unless we find anything critical in this release, I will announce this as 'latest stable' on our site (which hasn't been updated since 2004!)
after that, I will start working on x64 support and will work on improving Vista compatibility (ASIO)
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everyone is encouraged to review this new build and let me know if it is stable enough.
pls re-check all the issues present in 3538a..3538l and let me know if some of them are still not fixed
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known issues (which I cannot fix at the moment or will be fixing in 3539):
* digital noise/beep instead of audio playback (PCI bus-related) - since 2001...
* Line3 (AUX) is too noisy on A2PlatinumEx (undocumented initalization)
* sysex is corrupt if it is too long
* ASIO support in Vista
* x64 support

this driver version does NOT support (as 3538 and previous ones...):
* EAX 2.0
* 24/96 ASIO
* WaveHQ device (24/96) playback/recording on p17v (a2value, a2zsnotebook) - it was errornously enabled in 3538, but since p16v and p17v are different chips, no support is currently available (it didn't work in 3538 anyway)
* E-mu 1820-like hardware
* passthru on 10k1-based devices

note: audigy2 value mapping is incorrect. please let me know the new mapping and I will fix this before releasing the driver to the public
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finally, download link:

http://download.kxproject.lugosoft.c...3538m-full.exe

installation notice:
- uninstall any 3538 version first. if you have any setting files, save DSP configuration separately, since some of the settings are no longer compatible with previous 3538 builds

=====
new 3538m bug report thread -- please use IT instead of this thread for bug reports:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/128187-3538m-bug-reports.html

===== ARCHIVE =====
previous build: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/118620-3538l-released.html - 3538l
previous build: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/112733-kx-3538k-release.html - 3538k

3538l, 3538k, 3538j bug reports: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/118618-3538l-bug-reports.html

Russ · Jan 23, 2007, 02:13 AM

Thanks E.

@All
3538K/L plugins appear to be compatible with 3538m.

Doug W · Jan 23, 2007, 02:52 AM

Quote:

3538K/L plugins appear to be compatible with 3538m.

ProFX and UFX?

Russ · Jan 23, 2007, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

ProFX and UFX?

Yes

thomasabarnes · Jan 23, 2007, 03:03 AM

Oh Thanks so much Eugene, had no idea this release would come so soon!

@Russ

Thanks for updating the 3538m download link.

cics · Jan 23, 2007, 05:14 AM

24/96 router skin issue fixed.

Any possibilities of releasing ASIO 24/96 playback earlier instead of doing playback and recording at same time?

Thank you.

Doug W · Jan 23, 2007, 01:29 PM

Thanks Boss.

DK-1 · Jan 23, 2007, 01:57 PM

I had the memory leak issue. It seems to be fixed. Usage for kx seems to be around 8 instead of 27-32. Thanks for another great release.

PhilipIII · Jan 23, 2007, 04:35 PM

A few observations - not sure if they're bugs... (A2ZS NB)

I'm happy to finally get an analog input for an A2ZS NB. However:
- on the general mixer page under analog source only the line input seems to work (not that I know what would the difference be with the mic input)
- i'm still in the process of figuring out the difference between ASIO and general recording inputs but:
- when using sound forge for example (general recording input) - the recording gain is controlled from the recording page on the mixer - just the way it's supposed to be
- under CubaseSX 3 / any ASIO application in fact / the recording gain (and enabling) depends on the line/mic setting on the I/O page of the mixer, which suggests that line input should be enabled, producing clean signal, which on some occasions might not be desired..

Is there a way to just use the recording control for the purpose it is supposed to be designed for (under both ASIO and DirectSound) and the Line In control for what it is supposed to do - provide direct monitoring if needed? I played with the DSP with no apparent success on the issue.

One thing, I'm not sure how it happened though, still have to investigate it, but: I had all those 16 ASIO inputs turned on and at some point my input shifted from 10-11 where it was supposed to be to 6-7 for some odd reason..

thomasabarnes · Jan 23, 2007, 05:19 PM

Hi Eugene and all:

I installed 3538m, and kX memory usage is showing lower than 8MB. Also the plugin GUIs for some plugins (such as EF-X, Dynamic Processor, etc.) that took some seconds to load are loading fast now.

Thanks for this release Eugene! Thanks a bunch!

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 23, 2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cics

Any possibilities of releasing ASIO 24/96 playback earlier instead of doing playback and recording at same time?

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perhaps, that would be easier, yep...

E.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 23, 2007, 08:03 PM

pls post any a2zs-notebook-related comments to http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/128284-a2-zs-notebook-issues.html

BiCho · Jan 24, 2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

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perhaps, that would be easier, yep...

E.

Does that mean the 24/96 multichannel I/O can be done using ASIO, though not duplex?

qarews · Jan 25, 2007, 12:30 AM

i have problems with the kx line in and my tuner
this is happening in the last two builds of the kx drivers 38 l and m

i cannot select kx line in in dscaler [the freeware program i use for my old bt8xx tuner]
kx line in does not apear un the sound source configuration

so line in cannot be controlled by dscaler [i have to manualy use the kx mixer]
not really a solution when using a remote

the builds before vesion 38L are ok
but in the latest 2 builds i think windows canot see/detect the kx line in or smth

something is not to the standard ... smth hasa been changend in the last 2 builds

imperia · Jan 25, 2007, 05:35 PM

Thank you very much for the new build. I hope now the driver's asio is working with traktor as before L build. I cannot test it now because my computer locked itself

I will post result asap I fix my PC.

blubbÂ² · Jan 26, 2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

note: audigy2 value mapping is incorrect. please let me know the new mapping and I will fix this before releasing the driver to the public

If by mapping you mean the naming of the outputs...
I do own a A2Value and for me the analog and digitals are just swapped (I'm using K2LT):

Analog Front <-> Digital Front
Analog Rear <-> Digital Rear
Analog Center/LFE <-> Digital Center/LFE

WinMM Recording is correct and I don't know what Headphones Out is used for...

I hope this is what you were looking for, otherwise just ignore it

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 28, 2007, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blubbÂ²

If by mapping you mean the naming of the outputs...
I do own a A2Value and for me the analog and digitals are just swapped (I'm using K2LT):

Analog Front <-> Digital Front
Analog Rear <-> Digital Rear
Analog Center/LFE <-> Digital Center/LFE

WinMM Recording is correct and I don't know what Headphones Out is used for...

I hope this is what you were looking for, otherwise just ignore it

yep, that's excatly what I was interested in
can you try to 'reset settings' and re-check the inputs/outputs using kxmixer?
(k2lt mapping is already of use, thanks)

pls send me an e-mail with your results (kxproject.com/contact.php)

E.

wmjordan · Jan 29, 2007, 09:39 AM

That's great.
I willl try it and update the Chinese translation as soon as possible.

wmjordan · Jan 30, 2007, 11:50 AM

There's a Simplifed Chinese translated skin available now. Please download the skin from the following URL if needed.
http://www.hanzify.org/?Go=Show::List&ID=10084

(Download the file, exist KxMixer, unzip the ZIP file and overwrite the kxs file in the Windows/System32 directory with the uncompressed one)

silvertones · Jan 30, 2007, 09:51 PM

3538m seems to have fixed issues and is working fine on my LIVE 5.1 card in the desktop machine.

JGSF · Jan 31, 2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvertones

3538m seems to have fixed issues and is working fine on my LIVE 5.1 card in the desktop machine.

I second that...

With 3538l I was having a crackling sound from one channel everytime I booted my machine that would only go away by changing the latency to another value and changing it back again...

Eminos · Feb 2, 2007, 05:33 PM

Hi,

Just installed 3538m on Vista and I cannot controll the volume with my multimedia keyboard anymore. If I try, the volume bar (osd) shows either red or white, and it doesn't look properly, not centered.

/E

Russ · Feb 2, 2007, 08:13 PM

@Eminos,
Disable (uncheck) the 'Multimedia Keyboard enabled' option under the kX Settings menu, if you want your keyboard software to handle it, instead of kX.

BTW: If (when having kX control it) it is Red/White instead of Green/White, it means that your volume is muted.

Eminos · Feb 2, 2007, 08:59 PM

Ah, ok, it works then .. thanks

/E

TravelRec. · Feb 6, 2007, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blubbÂ²

If by mapping you mean the naming of the outputs...
I do own a A2Value and for me the analog and digitals are just swapped (I'm using K2LT):

Analog Front <-> Digital Front
Analog Rear <-> Digital Rear
Analog Center/LFE <-> Digital Center/LFE

WinMM Recording is correct and I don't know what Headphones Out is used for...

I hope this is what you were looking for, otherwise just ignore it

Confirmed! In addition: the SPDIF input works correctly, labeled as coaxial/optical SPDIF. And first time: the SPDIF output works!!!

It seems that it shares the same register like the analog output. So I have sound either on both of them or on none. This was checked with bundled k2lt.
Thank you Eugene for the new package

TravelRec.

Nforce2XP · Feb 7, 2007, 02:57 AM

long time , i have a question, does KX support Vista x86? i am using creative drivers but since KX are made with quality i would love to give a try and see how's the performance on Windows VISTA, ok thanks for help and thanks Eugene. you effort its well apreciate it.

**dj_stick** · Feb 7, 2007, 05:13 AM

there are several threads on kX and vista - please read them for info on isuses/successes members have had

Devil May Cry · Feb 7, 2007, 02:05 PM

hi i am using creative gd580 and this 3538M driver.on sblive 5.1 sb0220 with coaxial connection (DIN) but when 5.1 audio mode on any player for DVD movie there is very less sound on rear speakers.. but when i disable decoder and plug directly to the sound card 5.1 analogue works but then there is some cracking (distorging) sound whatto do with those ? should i buy a audigy 2 ZS?

Nforce2XP · Feb 8, 2007, 05:55 PM

installed on Vista X86 work ok, speakers test is not working (failed to create sound) error came up whenever i try it, have a question, since i am not a musician i would like to have some respectfull sound in games, what setting should i touch and since i have 4.1 speakers sets, what the best setting for it, thanks in advanced gentlemen.

HumanRes · Feb 9, 2007, 06:23 PM

I installed vista ultimate (32bit) in a test environment and - what a surprise - this old SBLive! Value ist not directly supported, but via automatic update some old creative drivers can be installed.

I did this prior to installing 3538m because i read about some incompatibility here. But those creative drivers are so bad - there is sound coming out but what a high background noise (all inputs were muted). Moving the mouse and every hdd activity makes even more noise. Is this a bad driver, IRQ probem or what?

So i installed 3538m - and the noise was gone. Crystal clear sound like under XP. Most of the mixer sliders are not visible as already described somewhere in this forum and i didn't give ASIO a try. I hope it's not a big deal to make the drives vista-ready, because this creative cr*p is unusable.

Native EAX under vista is dead - so i think this could be purged from the todo list. All I need is clear sound, low noise levels and fast asio.

Jan 23, 2007, 01:27 AM	#1
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,040 Rep Power: 57	3538m released hi there --- here's 3538m: changes: - Added support for analog-ins on A2ZS Notebook - Fixed issue with 24/96 router (pls verify!) - Fixed skin memory leak issue (Note: always use Zip instead of Rar) - Fixed EFX effects boot time issue (related to the above) - SDK: Added passthru on/off functions - Fixed issue with double-click, added one more option --- this is a final release candidate unless we find anything critical in this release, I will announce this as 'latest stable' on our site (which hasn't been updated since 2004!) after that, I will start working on x64 support and will work on improving Vista compatibility (ASIO) -- everyone is encouraged to review this new build and let me know if it is stable enough. pls re-check all the issues present in 3538a..3538l and let me know if some of them are still not fixed -- known issues (which I cannot fix at the moment or will be fixing in 3539): * digital noise/beep instead of audio playback (PCI bus-related) - since 2001... * Line3 (AUX) is too noisy on A2PlatinumEx (undocumented initalization) * sysex is corrupt if it is too long * ASIO support in Vista * x64 support this driver version does NOT support (as 3538 and previous ones...): * EAX 2.0 * 24/96 ASIO * WaveHQ device (24/96) playback/recording on p17v (a2value, a2zsnotebook) - it was errornously enabled in 3538, but since p16v and p17v are different chips, no support is currently available (it didn't work in 3538 anyway) * E-mu 1820-like hardware * passthru on 10k1-based devices note: audigy2 value mapping is incorrect. please let me know the new mapping and I will fix this before releasing the driver to the public --- finally, download link: http://download.kxproject.lugosoft.c...3538m-full.exe installation notice: - uninstall any 3538 version first. if you have any setting files, save DSP configuration separately, since some of the settings are no longer compatible with previous 3538 builds ===== new 3538m bug report thread -- please use IT instead of this thread for bug reports: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/128187-3538m-bug-reports.html ===== ARCHIVE ===== previous build: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/118620-3538l-released.html - 3538l previous build: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/112733-kx-3538k-release.html - 3538k 3538l, 3538k, 3538j bug reports: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/118618-3538l-bug-reports.html Last edited by Eugene Gavrilov; Jan 23, 2007 at 07:46 PM.

Jan 23, 2007, 02:13 AM	#2
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,946 Rep Power: 43	Thanks E. @All 3538K/L plugins appear to be compatible with 3538m. Last edited by Russ; Jan 23, 2007 at 02:34 AM.

Jan 23, 2007, 03:03 AM	#5
thomasabarnes DriverHeaven Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,313 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Oh Thanks so much Eugene, had no idea this release would come so soon! @Russ Thanks for updating the 3538m download link. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8 Producer Edition, Win 7 Eval Copy 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 250 GB HDD 7200 rpm, 80 GB HDD 7200 rpm, Lite-On DVDRW LH 18A1P My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jan 23, 2007, 05:19 PM	#10
thomasabarnes DriverHeaven Maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,313 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Hi Eugene and all: I installed 3538m, and kX memory usage is showing lower than 8MB. Also the plugin GUIs for some plugins (such as EF-X, Dynamic Processor, etc.) that took some seconds to load are loading fast now. Thanks for this release Eugene! Thanks a bunch! __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. Sonar 8 Producer Edition, Win 7 Eval Copy 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 250 GB HDD 7200 rpm, 80 GB HDD 7200 rpm, Lite-On DVDRW LH 18A1P My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jan 25, 2007, 12:30 AM	#14
qarews DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	line in problems i have problems with the kx line in and my tuner this is happening in the last two builds of the kx drivers 38 l and m i cannot select kx line in in dscaler [the freeware program i use for my old bt8xx tuner] kx line in does not apear un the sound source configuration so line in cannot be controlled by dscaler [i have to manualy use the kx mixer] not really a solution when using a remote the builds before vesion 38L are ok but in the latest 2 builds i think windows canot see/detect the kx line in or smth something is not to the standard ... smth hasa been changend in the last 2 builds

Jan 23, 2007, 05:14 AM	#6
cics DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	24/96 router skin issue fixed. Any possibilities of releasing ASIO 24/96 playback earlier instead of doing playback and recording at same time? Thank you.

Jan 23, 2007, 01:29 PM	#7
Doug W DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 962 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Boss.

Jan 23, 2007, 01:57 PM	#8
DK-1 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 106 Rep Power: 0	I had the memory leak issue. It seems to be fixed. Usage for kx seems to be around 8 instead of 27-32. Thanks for another great release.

Jan 23, 2007, 04:35 PM	#9
PhilipIII DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	A few observations - not sure if they're bugs... (A2ZS NB) I'm happy to finally get an analog input for an A2ZS NB. However: - on the general mixer page under analog source only the line input seems to work (not that I know what would the difference be with the mic input) - i'm still in the process of figuring out the difference between ASIO and general recording inputs but: - when using sound forge for example (general recording input) - the recording gain is controlled from the recording page on the mixer - just the way it's supposed to be - under CubaseSX 3 / any ASIO application in fact / the recording gain (and enabling) depends on the line/mic setting on the I/O page of the mixer, which suggests that line input should be enabled, producing clean signal, which on some occasions might not be desired.. Is there a way to just use the recording control for the purpose it is supposed to be designed for (under both ASIO and DirectSound) and the Line In control for what it is supposed to do - provide direct monitoring if needed? I played with the DSP with no apparent success on the issue. One thing, I'm not sure how it happened though, still have to investigate it, but: I had all those 16 ASIO inputs turned on and at some point my input shifted from 10-11 where it was supposed to be to 6-7 for some odd reason..

Jan 23, 2007, 08:03 PM	#12
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,040 Rep Power: 57	pls post any a2zs-notebook-related comments to http://www.hardwareheaven.com/bug-reports/128284-a2-zs-notebook-issues.html

Jan 25, 2007, 05:35 PM	#15
imperia DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 167 Rep Power: 0	Thank you very much for the new build. I hope now the driver's asio is working with traktor as before L build. I cannot test it now because my computer locked itself I will post result asap I fix my PC.

Jan 29, 2007, 09:39 AM	#18
wmjordan kX Driver @ China Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Five-star Country - China Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	That's great. I willl try it and update the Chinese translation as soon as possible. __________________ Me's box: Sempron 2200+, 1G DDR RAM, SBLive! CT3843 10k1, Windows 2003 Chinese Simplfied SP2, DirectX 9

Jan 30, 2007, 11:50 AM	#19
wmjordan kX Driver @ China Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Five-star Country - China Posts: 69 Rep Power: 0	There's a Simplifed Chinese translated skin available now. Please download the skin from the following URL if needed. http://www.hanzify.org/?Go=Show::List&ID=10084 (Download the file, exist KxMixer, unzip the ZIP file and overwrite the kxs file in the Windows/System32 directory with the uncompressed one) __________________ Me's box: Sempron 2200+, 1G DDR RAM, SBLive! CT3843 10k1, Windows 2003 Chinese Simplfied SP2, DirectX 9

Jan 30, 2007, 09:51 PM	#20
silvertones DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	3538m seems to have fixed issues and is working fine on my LIVE 5.1 card in the desktop machine.

Feb 2, 2007, 05:33 PM	#22
Eminos DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	Hi, Just installed 3538m on Vista and I cannot controll the volume with my multimedia keyboard anymore. If I try, the volume bar (osd) shows either red or white, and it doesn't look properly, not centered. /E

Feb 2, 2007, 08:13 PM	#23
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,946 Rep Power: 43	@Eminos, Disable (uncheck) the 'Multimedia Keyboard enabled' option under the kX Settings menu, if you want your keyboard software to handle it, instead of kX. BTW: If (when having kX control it) it is Red/White instead of Green/White, it means that your volume is muted. Last edited by Russ; Feb 2, 2007 at 08:44 PM.

Feb 2, 2007, 08:59 PM	#24
Eminos DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	Ah, ok, it works then .. thanks /E

Feb 7, 2007, 02:57 AM	#26
Nforce2XP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los angeles Posts: 201 Rep Power: 0	long time , i have a question, does KX support Vista x86? i am using creative drivers but since KX are made with quality i would love to give a try and see how's the performance on Windows VISTA, ok thanks for help and thanks Eugene. you effort its well apreciate it. __________________ RES.T.A.R.S

Feb 7, 2007, 02:05 PM	#28
Devil May Cry DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	hi i am using creative gd580 and this 3538M driver.on sblive 5.1 sb0220 with coaxial connection (DIN) but when 5.1 audio mode on any player for DVD movie there is very less sound on rear speakers.. but when i disable decoder and plug directly to the sound card 5.1 analogue works but then there is some cracking (distorging) sound whatto do with those ? should i buy a audigy 2 ZS?

Feb 8, 2007, 05:55 PM	#29
Nforce2XP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los angeles Posts: 201 Rep Power: 0	installed on Vista X86 work ok, speakers test is not working (failed to create sound) error came up whenever i try it, have a question, since i am not a musician i would like to have some respectfull sound in games, what setting should i touch and since i have 4.1 speakers sets, what the best setting for it, thanks in advanced gentlemen. __________________ RES.T.A.R.S

Feb 9, 2007, 06:23 PM	#30
HumanRes DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany / Duesseldorf Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Vista Drivers I installed vista ultimate (32bit) in a test environment and - what a surprise - this old SBLive! Value ist not directly supported, but via automatic update some old creative drivers can be installed. I did this prior to installing 3538m because i read about some incompatibility here. But those creative drivers are so bad - there is sound coming out but what a high background noise (all inputs were muted). Moving the mouse and every hdd activity makes even more noise. Is this a bad driver, IRQ probem or what? So i installed 3538m - and the noise was gone. Crystal clear sound like under XP. Most of the mixer sliders are not visible as already described somewhere in this forum and i didn't give ASIO a try. I hope it's not a big deal to make the drives vista-ready, because this creative cr*p is unusable. Native EAX under vista is dead - so i think this could be purged from the todo list. All I need is clear sound, low noise levels and fast asio.