3530 skin refresh delay?

Metalsvinet · Mar 25, 2003, 09:45 AM

It seems I'm not the only one who experiences this: when changing pages in the mixer there is a delay of a few seconds before the skin is updated.

I'm new here, so I don't know whether this qualifies as a bug. I'm very pleased with the overall quality of the drivers, and even with the delay it's a grand improvement on the Audigy2 drivers I was using before.

(3530; SB00092)

trance1meister · Mar 25, 2003, 10:42 PM

yes....everyone seems to experiece the same, and i think Max knows about it.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Mar 27, 2003, 01:27 AM

well, concerning the 'page delays' issue
in general, it should not happen
I was unable to reproduce this bug, so, I cannot fix it at the moment
if you manage to solve it, let us know

/Eugene

trance1meister · Mar 27, 2003, 02:33 AM

hmm, well. the mixer pages changed almost instantly previous to..... (i think) 3529

in 3530 it takes approximately 0.8 seconds to change pages.

i've found that setting kxmixer's priority to realtime seems to halve this time to 0.4 seconds (still not as quick as it was before 3529)

also, when changing pages, kxmixer's cpu usage goes up to 20-40%!

hope that helps!

Max M. · Mar 27, 2003, 02:41 AM

btw, trance1meister, what is your cpu?

trance1meister · Mar 27, 2003, 03:54 AM

Athlon XP2000 @ 1.7ghz.

...i read in another thread, that the skin handling has changed in 3530... this must be something to do with the problem...?

Daniel Drummond · Mar 27, 2003, 04:02 AM

Takes me between 1 and 2 sec iwith an Athlon XP 1700+. In other software it's instantaneous. But I guess this isn't something really important anyway because it's fast enough...

Metalsvinet · Mar 27, 2003, 07:38 AM

Takes me about 5 secs with a lowly Duron 900. CPU usage jumps to 100%. Changing priority to realtime helps a bit.

TheKezmiester · Mar 27, 2003, 11:01 PM

I can verify the delays. It even happens when just changing the checkboxes on the master page.
It's quite annoying when testing skins especially.
I don't remeber it doing this prior to 3528.
The refresh rate was never as responsive as say winamp or creative's but was never this slow.

Also the behaviour of the sliders is strange now. Flickery and jumps to wierd positions. <Sorry this should be in bugs>

I have P3 1G.

Kez.

Max M. · Mar 27, 2003, 11:33 PM

interesting... yep, when i stare i can see ~1/3 sec delay... AXP16000+... well, dunno about 1...2 sec.... but yep, the problem is present...

gooday · Apr 3, 2003, 02:31 PM

I don't why the developers didn't suffer this problem, but it does anoy me!

it take 4-5 seconds to refresh pages on my celeron 466 old computer and the cpu usage up to 100% during that time. it did happen on a lot of computers besides mine in China cause I've posted this bug on an another BBS dealing with soudcards and receive many replies suffering the same thing.

It happen ever since the version 3529-- the fouth time to rewriter the whole codes(right?)

I really hope it will no happen again in 3532!!

trance1meister · Apr 3, 2003, 09:23 PM

the 3531's seem slightly quicker. especially the "analyser" page. -it is *almost* instantaneous now.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 3, 2003, 10:52 PM

we need a guy capable of running a debugger in order to solve this problem
any volunteers?..

[unfortunately, I cannot reporduce the problem here

]

/Eugene

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 3, 2003, 10:52 PM

we need a guy capable of running a debugger in order to solve this problem
any volunteers?..

[unfortunately, I cannot reproduce the problem here

]

/Eugene

RIV@NVX · Apr 4, 2003, 12:05 PM

I can't really reproduce it... it could be OS specific... which OSes you guys use?

trance1meister · Apr 4, 2003, 12:36 PM

WinXP SP1 here

gooday · Apr 4, 2003, 01:26 PM

Windows XP+SP1 in simplifed Chinese

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 4, 2003, 07:16 PM

I doubt it is OS related.
But it can be InternetExplorer-dependent (because kX uses OLE features in order to display images).

/Eugene

Daniel Drummond · Apr 4, 2003, 09:31 PM

I have the problems and I use winxp sp1 (internet explorer 6), but if I remember right I experience those problems since 3518 (first version I used).

trance1meister · Apr 4, 2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene Gavrilov
I doubt it is OS related.
But it can be InternetExplorer-dependent (because kX uses OLE features in order to display images).

/Eugene

yes. the pages which change slowest are the pages with the most mixer's in them (output volumes, recording volumes, ac97)
the quickest pages are the ones with the least graphics (fx, soundfont, analyser)

so the slowest - quickest:

main page
output volumes
recording volumes
ac97
fx
soundfont
analyser

(basically the order in which they are in the mixer applet)

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 5, 2003, 12:55 AM

does the time decrease when you re-select particular mixer's page?

/Eugene

trance1meister · Apr 5, 2003, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene Gavrilov
does the time decrease when you re-select particular mixer's page?

/Eugene

no, it's always the same.

gooday · Apr 5, 2003, 06:18 PM

well, at least I didn't suffer the delay when I was using 3528 (that's what I first use), so I don't think it's IE's Problem.

TheKezmiester · Apr 6, 2003, 05:57 AM

I have P3 1G with XP... I get around 1.5 to 2 secs delay on all pages except analyser which means it must be to do with displaying the images. All other apps and control panels on my sytem are instantaneous. I can run a debugger if you like.

gooday · Apr 6, 2003, 07:59 PM

run the debugger and try to make out what the problem is.

TheKezmiester · Apr 7, 2003, 11:59 PM

....ummm.... how???

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Apr 8, 2003, 12:00 AM

well, I'll release a special 'test-only' version of the mixer
please be ready to install and check it with the monitor (kxdev.narod.ru)

/Eugene

gooday · Apr 8, 2003, 11:43 AM

I hope it'll be some help.

Mar 25, 2003, 09:45 AM	#1
Metalsvinet DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	3530 skin refresh delay? It seems I'm not the only one who experiences this: when changing pages in the mixer there is a delay of a few seconds before the skin is updated. I'm new here, so I don't know whether this qualifies as a bug. I'm very pleased with the overall quality of the drivers, and even with the delay it's a grand improvement on the Audigy2 drivers I was using before. (3530; SB00092)

Mar 27, 2003, 02:41 AM	#5
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	btw, trance1meister, what is your cpu? __________________

Mar 27, 2003, 03:54 AM	#6
trance1meister DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	Athlon XP2000 @ 1.7ghz. ...i read in another thread, that the skin handling has changed in 3530... this must be something to do with the problem...? Last edited by trance1meister; Mar 27, 2003 at 04:00 AM.

Mar 27, 2003, 04:02 AM	#7
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	Takes me between 1 and 2 sec iwith an Athlon XP 1700+. In other software it's instantaneous. But I guess this isn't something really important anyway because it's fast enough... __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Mar 27, 2003, 11:01 PM	#9
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	Page Delays I can verify the delays. It even happens when just changing the checkboxes on the master page. It's quite annoying when testing skins especially. I don't remeber it doing this prior to 3528. The refresh rate was never as responsive as say winamp or creative's but was never this slow. Also the behaviour of the sliders is strange now. Flickery and jumps to wierd positions. <Sorry this should be in bugs> I have P3 1G. Kez.

Mar 25, 2003, 10:42 PM	#2
trance1meister DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	yes....everyone seems to experiece the same, and i think Max knows about it.

Mar 27, 2003, 01:27 AM	#3
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	well, concerning the 'page delays' issue in general, it should not happen I was unable to reproduce this bug, so, I cannot fix it at the moment if you manage to solve it, let us know /Eugene

Mar 27, 2003, 02:33 AM	#4
trance1meister DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	hmm, well. the mixer pages changed almost instantly previous to..... (i think) 3529 in 3530 it takes approximately 0.8 seconds to change pages. i've found that setting kxmixer's priority to realtime seems to halve this time to 0.4 seconds (still not as quick as it was before 3529) also, when changing pages, kxmixer's cpu usage goes up to 20-40%! hope that helps!

Mar 27, 2003, 07:38 AM	Thread Starter #8
Metalsvinet DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Takes me about 5 secs with a lowly Duron 900. CPU usage jumps to 100%. Changing priority to realtime helps a bit.

Mar 27, 2003, 11:33 PM	#10
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	interesting... yep, when i stare i can see ~1/3 sec delay... AXP16000+... well, dunno about 1...2 sec.... but yep, the problem is present... __________________

Apr 3, 2003, 02:31 PM	#11
gooday HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	It's really a noisy bug! I don't why the developers didn't suffer this problem, but it does anoy me! it take 4-5 seconds to refresh pages on my celeron 466 old computer and the cpu usage up to 100% during that time. it did happen on a lot of computers besides mine in China cause I've posted this bug on an another BBS dealing with soudcards and receive many replies suffering the same thing. It happen ever since the version 3529-- the fouth time to rewriter the whole codes(right?) I really hope it will no happen again in 3532!!

Apr 3, 2003, 09:23 PM	#12
trance1meister DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	the 3531's seem slightly quicker. especially the "analyser" page. -it is almost instantaneous now.

Apr 3, 2003, 10:52 PM	#13
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	we need a guy capable of running a debugger in order to solve this problem any volunteers?.. [unfortunately, I cannot reporduce the problem here ] /Eugene

Apr 4, 2003, 12:05 PM	#15
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I can't really reproduce it... it could be OS specific... which OSes you guys use? __________________ -- Vedran

Apr 4, 2003, 12:36 PM	#16
trance1meister DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	WinXP SP1 here

Apr 4, 2003, 01:26 PM	#17
gooday HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	me? Windows XP+SP1 in simplifed Chinese __________________ CPU:AMD Phenom II 550 Video :AMD 4850 @ 625/2008 Memory: 2 GB X 2 DDR1600@8-8-8-21-1T SoundCard1:SB0060 & CT4620 Mainboard:AMD 770

Apr 4, 2003, 07:16 PM	#18
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	I doubt it is OS related. But it can be InternetExplorer-dependent (because kX uses OLE features in order to display images). /Eugene

Apr 4, 2003, 09:31 PM	#19
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	I have the problems and I use winxp sp1 (internet explorer 6), but if I remember right I experience those problems since 3518 (first version I used). __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Apr 5, 2003, 12:55 AM	#21
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	does the time decrease when you re-select particular mixer's page? /Eugene

Apr 5, 2003, 06:18 PM	#23
gooday HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	No, it happened verytime of change a page well, at least I didn't suffer the delay when I was using 3528 (that's what I first use), so I don't think it's IE's Problem. __________________ CPU:AMD Phenom II 550 Video :AMD 4850 @ 625/2008 Memory: 2 GB X 2 DDR1600@8-8-8-21-1T SoundCard1:SB0060 & CT4620 Mainboard:AMD 770

Apr 6, 2003, 05:57 AM	#24
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	OS I have P3 1G with XP... I get around 1.5 to 2 secs delay on all pages except analyser which means it must be to do with displaying the images. All other apps and control panels on my sytem are instantaneous. I can run a debugger if you like.

Apr 6, 2003, 07:59 PM	#25
gooday HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	yes, do it run the debugger and try to make out what the problem is. __________________ CPU:AMD Phenom II 550 Video :AMD 4850 @ 625/2008 Memory: 2 GB X 2 DDR1600@8-8-8-21-1T SoundCard1:SB0060 & CT4620 Mainboard:AMD 770

Apr 7, 2003, 11:59 PM	#26
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	....ummm.... how???

Apr 8, 2003, 12:00 AM	#27
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	well, I'll release a special 'test-only' version of the mixer please be ready to install and check it with the monitor (kxdev.narod.ru) /Eugene

Apr 8, 2003, 11:43 AM	#28
gooday HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 0	OK! I'll test it. I hope it'll be some help. __________________ CPU:AMD Phenom II 550 Video :AMD 4850 @ 625/2008 Memory: 2 GB X 2 DDR1600@8-8-8-21-1T SoundCard1:SB0060 & CT4620 Mainboard:AMD 770