volume & mute keys

subset · Oct 22, 2007, 12:35 AM

Hi, I’m from Austria and I signed in to start this thread.

I know that it’s a so called new feature, that the windows mixer does not work anymore.
“kX does NOT use the windows mixer, you'll need to use the kX Mixer” DJ Stick
But kx USED the windows mixer in the past… it worked, so what?

I don’ t even care about this, BUT I want my volume & mute Keys back, NOW AND FOREVER!

Not the kx multimedia keyboard, the keys from the intellitype or whatever software.

After installing version 3539 i thought it was a bug, it acted like a bug and even smelled like a bug, now we know it’s a new feature.

I’m sorry, but I don’t want this feature, thank you.

Doug W · Oct 22, 2007, 02:02 AM

subset,

I have used kX for several years and the recording portion of the windows mixer never worked with any of the versions. I find creating my own DSPs with kX much easier than messing with the mixers anyway.

Russ · Oct 22, 2007, 03:38 AM

Who said that it was a new feature? AFAIK it is a bug...

Max M. · Oct 22, 2007, 03:49 AM

>“kX does NOT use the windows mixer, you'll need to use the kX Mixer” DJ Stick
>But kx USED the windows mixer in the past… it worked, so what?

Hehe, well, strictly speaking, it's windows mixer who uses kx driver (not in reverse).

>... i thought it was a bug, it acted like a bug and even smelled like a bug ...

I agree with this.
Well, this "feature" is a price for Vista support (and actually it could be improved with newer kX versions (if any) - as it seems there are some mix-ups in driver topology -> "small mixer bugs"

)

But, well again, v39 has nothing new except Vista support and some AZSNB make-ups - so if you are not about these two, just do not torture yourself and install 38m or something

subset · Oct 22, 2007, 02:27 PM

@ Doug W
I use the kx mixer too (and I don’t mess with the win mixer), but I need a basic functionality to get the keys from my multimedia-keyboard to work.
What I do not understand is: for years intellitype and kx had a peaceful co-existence (hit the mute key…muted) now with 3539 hit the mute key…nothing happens.

@ Max M.
It’s a Vista feature? No problem, my os is xp.
For Vista “features” in xp I use WindowBlinds…
And about going back to 38 something, same old story and the future is pride…

Max M. · Oct 22, 2007, 02:52 PM

>What I do not understand is:

Some of important internal components of kX driver had to be changed to make kX's ASIO interfaces to work under Vista. These changes included a modification of the so-called "topology" (an interface through which the driver exposes some of its intenal structures to external components - including those used by windows mixer). And some parts of this topology got broken (particularly those responsible for master mute/unmute).

>It’s a Vista feature?

No.

>And about going back to 38 something, same old story and the future is pride…

I do not understand what's so sad about this. If you can install something that functions better (for you) isn't it a "new story"? Why to care of some stupid numbers?

subset · Oct 22, 2007, 06:23 PM

So i installed 3538 again.

This seems to be the new trend:
For Vista support it's ok to give the xp users a sucker punch.

Oct 22, 2007, 12:35 AM	#1
subset DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	volume & mute keys Hi, I’m from Austria and I signed in to start this thread. I know that it’s a so called new feature, that the windows mixer does not work anymore. “kX does NOT use the windows mixer, you'll need to use the kX Mixer” DJ Stick But kx USED the windows mixer in the past… it worked, so what? I don’ t even care about this, BUT I want my volume & mute Keys back, NOW AND FOREVER! Not the kx multimedia keyboard, the keys from the intellitype or whatever software. After installing version 3539 i thought it was a bug, it acted like a bug and even smelled like a bug, now we know it’s a new feature. I’m sorry, but I don’t want this feature, thank you.

Oct 22, 2007, 03:49 AM	#4
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	>“kX does NOT use the windows mixer, you'll need to use the kX Mixer” DJ Stick >But kx USED the windows mixer in the past… it worked, so what? Hehe, well, strictly speaking, it's windows mixer who uses kx driver (not in reverse). >... i thought it was a bug, it acted like a bug and even smelled like a bug ... I agree with this. Well, this "feature" is a price for Vista support (and actually it could be improved with newer kX versions (if any) - as it seems there are some mix-ups in driver topology -> "small mixer bugs" ) But, well again, v39 has nothing new except Vista support and some AZSNB make-ups - so if you are not about these two, just do not torture yourself and install 38m or something Last edited by Max M.; Oct 22, 2007 at 03:55 AM.

Oct 22, 2007, 02:52 PM	#6
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	>What I do not understand is: Some of important internal components of kX driver had to be changed to make kX's ASIO interfaces to work under Vista. These changes included a modification of the so-called "topology" (an interface through which the driver exposes some of its intenal structures to external components - including those used by windows mixer). And some parts of this topology got broken (particularly those responsible for master mute/unmute). >It’s a Vista feature? No. >And about going back to 38 something, same old story and the future is pride… I do not understand what's so sad about this. If you can install something that functions better (for you) isn't it a "new story"? Why to care of some stupid numbers? Last edited by Max M.; Oct 22, 2007 at 03:26 PM.

Oct 22, 2007, 02:02 AM	#2
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	subset, I have used kX for several years and the recording portion of the windows mixer never worked with any of the versions. I find creating my own DSPs with kX much easier than messing with the mixers anyway.

Oct 22, 2007, 03:38 AM	#3
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Who said that it was a new feature? AFAIK it is a bug...

Oct 22, 2007, 02:27 PM	Thread Starter #5
subset DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	@ Doug W I use the kx mixer too (and I don’t mess with the win mixer), but I need a basic functionality to get the keys from my multimedia-keyboard to work. What I do not understand is: for years intellitype and kx had a peaceful co-existence (hit the mute key…muted) now with 3539 hit the mute key…nothing happens. @ Max M. It’s a Vista feature? No problem, my os is xp. For Vista “features” in xp I use WindowBlinds… And about going back to 38 something, same old story and the future is pride…

Oct 22, 2007, 06:23 PM	Thread Starter #7
subset DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	So i installed 3538 again. This seems to be the new trend: For Vista support it's ok to give the xp users a sucker punch.