x4 and div4-when to use

Doug W · Mar 18, 2008, 02:59 AM

Greetings,

I have noticed on some threads that with certain effects users are advised to use:

x4 -> some effect -> div4

Can someone explain when, where and why you need to use this combination?

Thanks,
Doug W

Russ · Mar 18, 2008, 08:06 AM

It is the APS Compressor/Expander plugins (that is all I can think of at the moment). Those plugins use level detection, but do not account for the fact that kX uses Div4 levels in the DSP, so without the x4 plugin, they detect the wrong level (and thus would not work as expected). The Div4 plugin is needed after it, to bring the level back down to the normal DSP level.

Doug W · Mar 18, 2008, 11:38 PM

Thanks Russ

Russ · Mar 21, 2008, 07:51 PM

BTW: (IIRC) The "Noise Gate 2T" plugins also fall in this category.

Doug W · Mar 22, 2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

BTW: (IIRC) The "Noise Gate 2T" plugins also fall in this category.

I am using 3534f and don't see "Noise Gate 2T". Did that come in later versions?

Russ · Mar 23, 2008, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

I am using 3534f and don't see "Noise Gate 2T". Did that come in later versions?

Yes, they (Noise Gate 2T/Noise Gate 2Ts) are bundled with kX in newer versions...

Mar 18, 2008, 02:59 AM	#1
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	x4 and div4-when to use Greetings, I have noticed on some threads that with certain effects users are advised to use: x4 -> some effect -> div4 Can someone explain when, where and why you need to use this combination? Thanks, Doug W

Mar 18, 2008, 08:06 AM	#2
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	It is the APS Compressor/Expander plugins (that is all I can think of at the moment). Those plugins use level detection, but do not account for the fact that kX uses Div4 levels in the DSP, so without the x4 plugin, they detect the wrong level (and thus would not work as expected). The Div4 plugin is needed after it, to bring the level back down to the normal DSP level. Last edited by Russ; Mar 21, 2008 at 08:21 PM. Reason: typo

Mar 21, 2008, 07:51 PM	#4
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	BTW: (IIRC) The "Noise Gate 2T" plugins also fall in this category. Last edited by Russ; Mar 21, 2008 at 07:57 PM.

Mar 18, 2008, 11:38 PM	Thread Starter #3
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Russ