New to kx: S/PDIF Issues

tyberius · Jun 27, 2008, 01:41 AM

I just formatted and reinstalled Windows XP (SP2 if it makes a difference), and decided to go with kx instead of the Creative drivers for my Audigy 2 Platinum. Most things seem to work fine (although sometimes on startup I have to reinstall the game controller driver for some reason). Except I get absolutely no sound from S/PDIF.

I have a Yamaha MO8 connected to my platinum through the S/PDIF input on the front of the dock. Playing through it creates no sound. It used to work before with the Creative drivers, and still works on my other machine with an E-MU 1818M.

Is there something I need to do to get S/PDIF to work properly in kx?

Thanks much in advance.

peate · Jun 27, 2008, 02:06 AM

Check on the in/out page of the mixer to ensure the SPDIF input is not muted and raise the volume.

tyberius · Jun 27, 2008, 02:10 AM

That was the first thing I did. Still no sound.

Russ · Jun 27, 2008, 04:28 AM

Are you using the default DSP config?

What type of speaker system do you have? Is it stereo only (if so, which jack is the speakers connected to?)?

Are you able to hear audio from any other inputs? From Windows?

Make sure that SPDIF Bypass mode is not enabled in kxmixer.

Are you at all familair with kX? Are you absolutely sure that you unmuted the input on the In's and Out's page? Verify that the level reads something other than "inF".

Do you see any movement on the peak plugin in the DSP when playing audio through SPDIF In?

tyberius · Jun 27, 2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ

Are you using the default DSP config?

I would assume so. I haven't touched it since I installed the drivers.

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Originally Posted by Russ

What type of speaker system do you have? Is it stereo only (if so, which jack is the speakers connected to?)?

No speakers. Just headphones, plugged into the headphones jack on the audigy drive.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Are you able to hear audio from any other inputs? From Windows?

Yes, and yes. The microphone input works.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Make sure that SPDIF Bypass mode is not enabled in kxmixer.

It's not.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Are you at all familair with kX? Are you absolutely sure that you unmuted the input on the In's and Out's page? Verify that the level reads something other than "inF".

It reads "0".

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Originally Posted by Russ

Do you see any movement on the peak plugin in the DSP when playing audio through SPDIF In?

Nope.

Russ · Jun 27, 2008, 04:59 AM

Try a "Reset Device Settings" from the kX context menu (under Settings), and re-enable the input if necessary, etc.

Also, check the SPDIF/I2S Status (under Settings) and see if it shows anything for SPDIF input.

BTW: What version of kX did you install?

tyberius · Jun 27, 2008, 05:11 AM

Resetting the settings didn't do anything. Here's what the SPDIF/I2S status screen said:

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SPDIF Inputs: [R-Rate Locked; S-Stream Locked; V-Valid Audio]
spdif A: unused
spdif B: unused
spdif C: unused or same as B

edit: version 5, 10, 00, 3537

Russ · Jun 27, 2008, 05:29 AM

3537 is a fairly old version, and I am not sure if it fully supported your card... I would suggest trying 3541 (completely remove 3537 before installing 3541).

tyberius · Jun 27, 2008, 05:53 AM

OK I updated to 3541, and it's still not working.

Russ · Jun 27, 2008, 06:18 AM

Sorry, I do not know why it is not working. I am not aware of any such issues...

Do you have any other SPDIF sources you can test with (DVD player set to output PCM only, etc), just to see if it is some issue with kX and the Yamaha MO8?

How long ago was the last time you tried it with the Creative driver? If it has been a while, you might want to try the CL driver again just to verify (if nothing else) that it still works...

TravelRec. · Jun 27, 2008, 09:29 AM

If the SPDIF status window shows no upcoming data, then something is wrong with hardware. Check all connections between card and drive, be sure the SPDIF signal is strong enough, use an appropriate cable.

igormusic · Jun 29, 2008, 11:18 PM

you might try to turn off 'Swap front and Rear' option, because otherwise your optical out gets =rear= output, not =front= one

TravelRec. · Jul 1, 2008, 08:14 PM

No, this has nothing to do with the problem.

Russ · Jul 1, 2008, 09:04 PM

I agree, swapping front/rear should not effect the SPDIF/I2S status, nor the headphone jack of the Audigy drive.

Jun 27, 2008, 01:41 AM	#1
tyberius DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	New to kx: S/PDIF Issues I just formatted and reinstalled Windows XP (SP2 if it makes a difference), and decided to go with kx instead of the Creative drivers for my Audigy 2 Platinum. Most things seem to work fine (although sometimes on startup I have to reinstall the game controller driver for some reason). Except I get absolutely no sound from S/PDIF. I have a Yamaha MO8 connected to my platinum through the S/PDIF input on the front of the dock. Playing through it creates no sound. It used to work before with the Creative drivers, and still works on my other machine with an E-MU 1818M. Is there something I need to do to get S/PDIF to work properly in kx? Thanks much in advance.

Jun 27, 2008, 04:59 AM	#6
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Try a "Reset Device Settings" from the kX context menu (under Settings), and re-enable the input if necessary, etc. Also, check the SPDIF/I2S Status (under Settings) and see if it shows anything for SPDIF input. BTW: What version of kX did you install? Last edited by Russ; Jun 27, 2008 at 05:06 AM.

Jun 27, 2008, 05:29 AM	#8
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	3537 is a fairly old version, and I am not sure if it fully supported your card... I would suggest trying 3541 (completely remove 3537 before installing 3541). Last edited by Russ; Jun 27, 2008 at 05:34 AM. Reason: typo

Jun 27, 2008, 06:18 AM	#10
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Sorry, I do not know why it is not working. I am not aware of any such issues... Do you have any other SPDIF sources you can test with (DVD player set to output PCM only, etc), just to see if it is some issue with kX and the Yamaha MO8? How long ago was the last time you tried it with the Creative driver? If it has been a while, you might want to try the CL driver again just to verify (if nothing else) that it still works... Last edited by Russ; Jun 27, 2008 at 06:24 AM.

Jun 27, 2008, 09:29 AM	#11
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	If the SPDIF status window shows no upcoming data, then something is wrong with hardware. Check all connections between card and drive, be sure the SPDIF signal is strong enough, use an appropriate cable. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jun 27, 2008, 02:06 AM	#2
peate HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 389 Rep Power: 55	Check on the in/out page of the mixer to ensure the SPDIF input is not muted and raise the volume.

Jun 27, 2008, 02:10 AM	Thread Starter #3
tyberius DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	That was the first thing I did. Still no sound.

Jun 27, 2008, 04:28 AM	#4
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	Are you using the default DSP config? What type of speaker system do you have? Is it stereo only (if so, which jack is the speakers connected to?)? Are you able to hear audio from any other inputs? From Windows? Make sure that SPDIF Bypass mode is not enabled in kxmixer. Are you at all familair with kX? Are you absolutely sure that you unmuted the input on the In's and Out's page? Verify that the level reads something other than "inF". Do you see any movement on the peak plugin in the DSP when playing audio through SPDIF In?

Jun 27, 2008, 05:53 AM	Thread Starter #9
tyberius DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	OK I updated to 3541, and it's still not working.

Jun 29, 2008, 11:18 PM	#12
igormusic DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	you might try to turn off 'Swap front and Rear' option, because otherwise your optical out gets =rear= output, not =front= one

Jul 1, 2008, 08:14 PM	#13
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	No, this has nothing to do with the problem. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 1, 2008, 09:04 PM	#14
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,507 Rep Power: 61	I agree, swapping front/rear should not effect the SPDIF/I2S status, nor the headphone jack of the Audigy drive.