"Found new hardware" still appears after install

Enhanced_Interrogator · Nov 20, 2008, 04:03 PM

I installed v3541 recently, and everytime I start windows the new hardware wizard comes up, even though the sound card and kx drivers still work. So somehow windows thinks no drivers are installed even though working drivers are installed. Anybody know what to do?

Maddogg6 · Nov 20, 2008, 04:15 PM

did you have problems with the kX driver installation?
Some thing Like "No Compatable sound card found"

What model sound card?
What OS are you using?
What does windows device manager show for your Sound and Audio device(s)?

The 'sound working in windows' could be windows driver for your sound card - that could be the new hardware found at boot up...

LyyNx · Nov 20, 2008, 05:48 PM

i'm guessing it's the creative game port. try windows update, it should find it.

Enhanced_Interrogator · Nov 22, 2008, 08:35 PM

Thanks for the response guys

-No the installation went fine as far as I can tell
-I don't remember anything like that, kx definitely found my card
-Audigy 2, kx specifically says it is sb0240 10k2 b800
-XP sp3
-That's the thing, it recognizes the kx/creative soundcard, but also registers an unknown pci device, here's a pic

http://i34.tinypic.com/28isymc.jpg

And my gameport works great with my MIDI keyboard and these drivers, so I don't know if that is the problem

Maddogg6 · Nov 22, 2008, 09:04 PM

Any particular reason you didn't try kX V 3545? (its the most recent version)
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-...ion-3545b.html

edit2: Doh - your game port is not shown - mine shows "kX 10kx Audio - Game Port" - Seems to be related..??

I forget which version of kX eliminated that, IIRC, it was dropped becuase it was not working..?? Tho, the MIDI works for me - not sure if a game controller would or not.

Enhanced_Interrogator · Nov 23, 2008, 05:19 AM

Wow, that's weird, I thought 3541 was the latest, like it was the only one linked from the page i went to. I'll try this new one and get back to you.

Tipstaff · Nov 23, 2008, 07:08 AM

Can you do us a favor? Open up that unknown "PCI Input Device" listing from within "Device Manager", and go to the "Details" tab. Under the listing "Device Instance ID" you will see a bunch of numbers. Pay particular attention to the part of that number that says, "PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_xxxx". Once you have that post it back here, or you can even Google it to see what comes up for it. This will at the very least help us/you to figure out exactly what manufacturer made that part, as well as help narrow done the actual part itself, and it's drivers.

BTW, is this a fresh install of Windows?

Russ · Nov 23, 2008, 09:21 PM

As already stated, it is most likely the gameport. kX no longer includes the gameport driver (which BTW, is not needed for MIDI I/O). If you do not use it as a gameport, you can ignore it or disable it, or whatever. Otherwise you should you use the gameport driver from the Creative CD.

Enhanced_Interrogator · Nov 24, 2008, 12:54 AM

Yeah, the new driver didn't change anything. Here's the number you're talking about PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_7003&SUBSYS_00601102&REV_04\4&2E9 8101C&0&19F0.

I guess "PCI input device" would most likely indicate the gameport. Would disabling it prevent me from using it as a MIDI input, or would I be able to re-enable it later if I wanted to play an old game or something?

EDIT: No, its not a fresh install of windows. I've had this computer for five years, I just recently stumbled across kx project and thought I'd install it since I listen to a lot of music on my computer.

Russ · Nov 24, 2008, 01:32 AM

Yeah, that is definitely the gameport.
AFAIK, you should not have any problems using it for MIDI input (without the gameport driver), but I think all you need to install it is the INF from the Creative CD, so you might as well install it.

If you do not have your CD, try this one:
ctgame2k.inf

BTW: I think the above INF may only be for A2 models (and later?), here is another one (in case other XP users are looking for it too):
ctljystk.inf

Enhanced_Interrogator · Nov 24, 2008, 08:11 PM

Cool, I had my CD and it installed the creative gameport. One more thing, I noticed that kx drivers don't lag with MIDI inputs like the creative ones did. Will this driver cause things to lag?

Russ · Nov 24, 2008, 10:14 PM

AFAIK, the gameport driver is just for use with joysticks/gamepads, etc, and MIDI I/O is handled by kX itself, so I do not think that MIDI I/O should be affected.

Enhanced_Interrogator · Nov 25, 2008, 03:19 AM

^that seems correct, everything works great, no lag. Thank y'all for the help.

oddness · Dec 15, 2008, 03:40 PM

Are you sure the OS is not just "discovering" the game port - the newer kx drivers don't provide the game port driver since they didn't work right anyway with xp/vista. If that's all that's happening, just disable the game port in device manager.

Nov 20, 2008, 04:03 PM	#1
Enhanced_Interrogator HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	"Found new hardware" still appears after install I installed v3541 recently, and everytime I start windows the new hardware wizard comes up, even though the sound card and kx drivers still work. So somehow windows thinks no drivers are installed even though working drivers are installed. Anybody know what to do?

Nov 20, 2008, 04:15 PM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install did you have problems with the kX driver installation? Some thing Like "No Compatable sound card found" What model sound card? What OS are you using? What does windows device manager show for your Sound and Audio device(s)? The 'sound working in windows' could be windows driver for your sound card - that could be the new hardware found at boot up...

Nov 20, 2008, 05:48 PM	#3
LyyNx HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install i'm guessing it's the creative game port. try windows update, it should find it.

Nov 22, 2008, 08:35 PM	Thread Starter #4
Enhanced_Interrogator HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Thanks for the response guys -No the installation went fine as far as I can tell -I don't remember anything like that, kx definitely found my card -Audigy 2, kx specifically says it is sb0240 10k2 b800 -XP sp3 -That's the thing, it recognizes the kx/creative soundcard, but also registers an unknown pci device, here's a pic http://i34.tinypic.com/28isymc.jpg And my gameport works great with my MIDI keyboard and these drivers, so I don't know if that is the problem

Nov 22, 2008, 09:04 PM	#5
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Any particular reason you didn't try kX V 3545? (its the most recent version) http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-...ion-3545b.html edit2: Doh - your game port is not shown - mine shows "kX 10kx Audio - Game Port" - Seems to be related..?? I forget which version of kX eliminated that, IIRC, it was dropped becuase it was not working..?? Tho, the MIDI works for me - not sure if a game controller would or not.

Nov 23, 2008, 05:19 AM	Thread Starter #6
Enhanced_Interrogator HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Wow, that's weird, I thought 3541 was the latest, like it was the only one linked from the page i went to. I'll try this new one and get back to you.

Nov 23, 2008, 07:08 AM	#7
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Can you do us a favor? Open up that unknown "PCI Input Device" listing from within "Device Manager", and go to the "Details" tab. Under the listing "Device Instance ID" you will see a bunch of numbers. Pay particular attention to the part of that number that says, "PCI\VEN_xxxx&DEV_xxxx". Once you have that post it back here, or you can even Google it to see what comes up for it. This will at the very least help us/you to figure out exactly what manufacturer made that part, as well as help narrow done the actual part itself, and it's drivers. BTW, is this a fresh install of Windows? __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Nov 23, 2008, 09:21 PM	#8
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install As already stated, it is most likely the gameport. kX no longer includes the gameport driver (which BTW, is not needed for MIDI I/O). If you do not use it as a gameport, you can ignore it or disable it, or whatever. Otherwise you should you use the gameport driver from the Creative CD.

Nov 24, 2008, 12:54 AM	Thread Starter #9
Enhanced_Interrogator HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Yeah, the new driver didn't change anything. Here's the number you're talking about PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_7003&SUBSYS_00601102&REV_04\4&2E9 8101C&0&19F0. I guess "PCI input device" would most likely indicate the gameport. Would disabling it prevent me from using it as a MIDI input, or would I be able to re-enable it later if I wanted to play an old game or something? EDIT: No, its not a fresh install of windows. I've had this computer for five years, I just recently stumbled across kx project and thought I'd install it since I listen to a lot of music on my computer. Last edited by Enhanced_Interrogator; Nov 24, 2008 at 01:09 AM.

Nov 24, 2008, 01:32 AM	#10
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Yeah, that is definitely the gameport. AFAIK, you should not have any problems using it for MIDI input (without the gameport driver), but I think all you need to install it is the INF from the Creative CD, so you might as well install it. If you do not have your CD, try this one: ctgame2k.inf BTW: I think the above INF may only be for A2 models (and later?), here is another one (in case other XP users are looking for it too): ctljystk.inf Last edited by Russ; Nov 24, 2008 at 02:32 AM.

Nov 24, 2008, 08:11 PM	Thread Starter #11
Enhanced_Interrogator HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Cool, I had my CD and it installed the creative gameport. One more thing, I noticed that kx drivers don't lag with MIDI inputs like the creative ones did. Will this driver cause things to lag?

Nov 24, 2008, 10:14 PM	#12
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install AFAIK, the gameport driver is just for use with joysticks/gamepads, etc, and MIDI I/O is handled by kX itself, so I do not think that MIDI I/O should be affected. Last edited by Russ; Nov 24, 2008 at 10:47 PM. Reason: typo

Nov 25, 2008, 03:19 AM	Thread Starter #13
Enhanced_Interrogator HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install ^that seems correct, everything works great, no lag. Thank y'all for the help.

Dec 15, 2008, 03:40 PM	#14
oddness DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Re: "Found new hardware" still appears after install Are you sure the OS is not just "discovering" the game port - the newer kx drivers don't provide the game port driver since they didn't work right anyway with xp/vista. If that's all that's happening, just disable the game port in device manager.