KX dies?

starjack · Apr 13, 2009, 03:00 AM

I'm using kx drivers few years, mostly for mixing and playing music, with that dsp i can reach bass sound better than with anything else. Dsp details are my secret. But that's not the point.
I need to use more than 3GB ram, and want to avoid problems with "compatibility tricks" and trouble at Vista 32 SP1. So i need fully 64bit XP/Vista for that, as you expect kx doen't support 64 bit.
I'm sure there are so many ppl like me, who reading only that forum, and says: "there are no 64 bit version, kx's died", and looking for something else.
Open your eyes Eugen, there is only one way for kx drivers survive - 64 bit.
Best regards, from a loyal user.

TravelRec. · Apr 13, 2009, 05:40 AM

Read this: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-...nt-status.html

Max M. · Apr 13, 2009, 06:59 AM

hmm, well, i always wonder if i'm the only person thinking:
<<kX was finished in 2003 when all the features planned had been finally implemented. The rest is just a little bonus. Noone is going to push it for newer and newer OSes - it simply makes no sense and actually starts to smell like necrophilia. All those buzz-words like "kX dies, need to survive" sound just fun - do you think someone would spend his whole life for bothering with an ancient hardware designed 500 years ago? Why? It was interesting in 1999 or 2003, but today it is not... Move forward, noone cares if you use kX or not (why would anyone?). Again, the projects of such kind don't have a properties like "dead" or "alive" they can only be finished ("planned features are implemented") or not ("planned features are not implemented yet"). This one is finished. Use it if it suits your needs and don't if it does not. There's no room for global pathetic slogans.>>

mobomofo · Apr 13, 2009, 09:09 PM

Not for me. I am using XP till I can no more, and the results I get from my A2ZS are spectacular.
Rock on KX!

RIV@NVX · Apr 20, 2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starjack

I need to use more than 3GB ram, and want to avoid problems with "compatibility tricks" and trouble at Vista 32 SP1. So i need fully 64bit XP/Vista for that, as you expect kx doen't support 64 bit.

That's great. If you need something, ask Eugene what would he want in return to implement it. Why would he bother coding a free driver that suits your needs?

Or, buy another card. There is so much great non-Creative hardware. My Audigy is dying (has been a while, no wonder), and I plan on doing something like that.

TravelRec. · Apr 21, 2009, 05:35 AM

Since I got some old 10k1 and 10k2 cards for nearly nothing and I´m able to pimp the cards with digital and analog I/O, I stay with kX until the last card will end up in smoke

The performance is quite good enough for my needs.

TheKezReturns · Apr 21, 2009, 12:20 PM

I love my 1820M, it has good converters and everything I need. I also love the freedom the KX dsp used to give me and I've used great sounding dsp fx chains that I've been unable to reproduce with vst plugins. It also has uses that have a place in a modern project studio like having a dedicated monitoring reverb and Max your sa+ is a real practical application (or at least it would be everything were ported to the mac). I'm sick to death of the eternal frustrations of the windows platform and I'm chuffed to not have to sell my 1820m and will quietly and patiently (foolishly) await recording and the kx api. It's a real shame the E could not open source part of the project as we was going to do at one stage as I feel it would have lived on and advanced fast enough to stay more current. It has great live applications. Soundfonts with fx chains in realtime. When you trying to play fast keyboard lines, there's a huge different between low latency vstis and "next to no latency" soundfonts. It's just like playing a real keyboard. Vsti even @ 2ms do not feel the same. Sound wise, I've had my mates nord electro 2 rhodes patch up against my KX soundfont fx chain (70mb j3rhodes.sf2->tremeo->compressor->efxTubedrive->efxReverb) and everyone said the kx sound won hands down. The nord is supposed to be the best in the industry!

Long Live KX!

haha just kidding

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jul 18, 2009, 02:47 AM

"await recording and the kx api"

do you mean OS X driver?
if yes, API is already out - but I noticed no volunteers to re-implement kX DSP functionality over kX API under OS X...

I'm planning to spend some time in July and August on implementing full recording support for OS X...

E.

Doug W · Jul 18, 2009, 04:40 AM

I keep forgetting the projected date for Windows 3.1 support...

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jul 20, 2009, 08:36 PM

Doug W: the funniest thing is, before kX I started a DOS driver for my AWE64 and, later, for SBLive

I did not make any releases, but it was a nice start

Doug W · Jul 26, 2009, 12:39 AM

Quote:

I did not make any releases, but it was a nice start

I'm guessing those projects aren't too high on the priority list these days.

Thanks Eugene

Max M. · Jul 26, 2009, 05:03 AM

>I'm guessing those projects aren't too high on the priority list these days.

No! I demand Eugene to finish his DOS driver for the AWE32 - i need it so much!

Doug W · Jul 26, 2009, 06:33 PM

Just think of it, the kX DOS project!!!

Oxtie · Jul 26, 2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max M.

>I'm guessing those projects aren't too high on the priority list these days.

No! I demand Eugene to finish his DOS driver for the AWE32 - i need it so much!

Me TOO

hehe (but mpxplay play all audio files without driver)

Apr 13, 2009, 03:00 AM	#1
starjack DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	KX dies? I'm using kx drivers few years, mostly for mixing and playing music, with that dsp i can reach bass sound better than with anything else. Dsp details are my secret. But that's not the point. I need to use more than 3GB ram, and want to avoid problems with "compatibility tricks" and trouble at Vista 32 SP1. So i need fully 64bit XP/Vista for that, as you expect kx doen't support 64 bit. I'm sure there are so many ppl like me, who reading only that forum, and says: "there are no 64 bit version, kx's died", and looking for something else. Open your eyes Eugen, there is only one way for kx drivers survive - 64 bit. Best regards, from a loyal user.

Apr 13, 2009, 05:40 AM	#2
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Re: KX dies? Read this: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-...nt-status.html __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 13, 2009, 06:59 AM	#3
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	Îòâåò: KX dies? hmm, well, i always wonder if i'm the only person thinking: <<kX was finished in 2003 when all the features planned had been finally implemented. The rest is just a little bonus. Noone is going to push it for newer and newer OSes - it simply makes no sense and actually starts to smell like necrophilia. All those buzz-words like "kX dies, need to survive" sound just fun - do you think someone would spend his whole life for bothering with an ancient hardware designed 500 years ago? Why? It was interesting in 1999 or 2003, but today it is not... Move forward, noone cares if you use kX or not (why would anyone?). Again, the projects of such kind don't have a properties like "dead" or "alive" they can only be finished ("planned features are implemented") or not ("planned features are not implemented yet"). This one is finished. Use it if it suits your needs and don't if it does not. There's no room for global pathetic slogans.>> __________________ Last edited by Max M.; Apr 13, 2009 at 10:36 AM.

Apr 13, 2009, 09:09 PM	#4
mobomofo HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 75 Rep Power: 28	Re: KX dies? Not for me. I am using XP till I can no more, and the results I get from my A2ZS are spectacular. Rock on KX! __________________ http://www.youtube.com/vstmonger

Apr 21, 2009, 05:35 AM	#6
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Re: KX dies? Since I got some old 10k1 and 10k2 cards for nearly nothing and I´m able to pimp the cards with digital and analog I/O, I stay with kX until the last card will end up in smoke The performance is quite good enough for my needs. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 21, 2009, 12:20 PM	#7
TheKezReturns HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gold Coast Australia Posts: 118 Rep Power: 0	Re: KX dies? I love my 1820M, it has good converters and everything I need. I also love the freedom the KX dsp used to give me and I've used great sounding dsp fx chains that I've been unable to reproduce with vst plugins. It also has uses that have a place in a modern project studio like having a dedicated monitoring reverb and Max your sa+ is a real practical application (or at least it would be everything were ported to the mac). I'm sick to death of the eternal frustrations of the windows platform and I'm chuffed to not have to sell my 1820m and will quietly and patiently (foolishly) await recording and the kx api. It's a real shame the E could not open source part of the project as we was going to do at one stage as I feel it would have lived on and advanced fast enough to stay more current. It has great live applications. Soundfonts with fx chains in realtime. When you trying to play fast keyboard lines, there's a huge different between low latency vstis and "next to no latency" soundfonts. It's just like playing a real keyboard. Vsti even @ 2ms do not feel the same. Sound wise, I've had my mates nord electro 2 rhodes patch up against my KX soundfont fx chain (70mb j3rhodes.sf2->tremeo->compressor->efxTubedrive->efxReverb) and everyone said the kx sound won hands down. The nord is supposed to be the best in the industry! Long Live KX! haha just kidding __________________ Dual Boot Hacky XP / OSX /Ubuntu. 2.13 C2D. 4 Gb DDR2. Intel DG965RY. EMU 1820M / TC Konnekt 24D / MOTU Ultralite mk3 Last edited by TheKezReturns; Apr 21, 2009 at 12:37 PM.

Jul 18, 2009, 02:47 AM	#8
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: KX dies? "await recording and the kx api" do you mean OS X driver? if yes, API is already out - but I noticed no volunteers to re-implement kX DSP functionality over kX API under OS X... I'm planning to spend some time in July and August on implementing full recording support for OS X... E.

Jul 18, 2009, 04:40 AM	#9
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Re: KX dies? I keep forgetting the projected date for Windows 3.1 support...

Jul 20, 2009, 08:36 PM	#10
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: KX dies? Doug W: the funniest thing is, before kX I started a DOS driver for my AWE64 and, later, for SBLive I did not make any releases, but it was a nice start

Jul 26, 2009, 05:03 AM	#12
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	Îòâåò: KX dies? >I'm guessing those projects aren't too high on the priority list these days. No! I demand Eugene to finish his DOS driver for the AWE32 - i need it so much! __________________

Jul 26, 2009, 06:33 PM	#13
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Re: KX dies? Just think of it, the kX DOS project!!!