E-mu PCIe devices

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Aug 3, 2010, 10:19 PM

Hi guys! It's been a very long time since my last visit here...
Sorry, no luck with kX-related development at all.

I've recently discovered PCIe (PCI Express) versions of the E-mu 1212m/1616m PCI devices. E-MU 1010 PCIe | Creative Labs Online Store

Anyone tried them with kX? I haven't noticed any tracks of these devices in the linux drivers, and I don't know whether their PCI IDs are different/compatible/etc. with kX.

Since everyone's moving towards PCIe, and some MBs even lack PCI anymore, it might be interesting to try these cards. Just in case.

E.

peate · Aug 4, 2010, 11:47 PM

Hi Eugene.

Personally, as long as my old Live card works and I can use kX DSP, I'm happy. It might be many years still before the PCI slot is gone completely, look how long ISA hung around.

But I have to say, those new emu card are tempting, just to hear the sound quality.

Nice to hear from you, btw, looks like everyone forgot who you were, LOL.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 22, 2010, 11:04 AM

indeed

anyway, no progress with kX at all at the moment... sorry for that...

E.

TravelRec. · Oct 29, 2010, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

indeed

anyway, no progress with kX at all at the moment... sorry for that...

E.

Hi Eugene, is it a matter of time or money or both of them

? For me it´s the job and the family that eats up all the time that could be otherwise used to make some music. I always remember and miss the old times of 2000...2005 somehow...

Greeings and Regards
TravelRec

vikflash · Nov 4, 2010, 08:00 AM

Hi Eugene

I want to take this opportunity to thank you once again for the development of KX. It has been a really great project (a kind of example about David vs Goliath ;o)
It's been really stimulating over these years and it's really been a pleasure that I had the ability to give a small contribution since Dec 16, 2002.

I bought a few months ago a X-Fi Elite Pro on a win7 PC. But after using KX drivers, creative ones still really lacks flexibility. I know that PCI slots are disapearing and the standart is dying but infortunately I haven't tried PCI-E soundcards

Sometimes I ask myself what kind of project you're now workin' on, how do you spend your time and what makes you dream now ^^

Thanks again to all the KX team and contributors

Vik

PS : I still got 4 PCs with kx drivers and I'm still satisfied

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Nov 12, 2010, 12:15 AM

guys, thank you for your warm words... really...

E.

JGSF · Nov 14, 2010, 06:30 PM

Hi, Eugene.

I've been so happy with my PCI cards running kX that I won't be needing anything else so soon.

I'll report back if I ever get one of those PCIe cards, but that will be unlikely in a near future.

Thank you guys for everything.

trex_daemon · Nov 15, 2010, 04:30 PM

Hi Eugene. I would like to thank you for this great driver. I'm using it since 2005, and hopefully I will be able to use it in the future.
I'm coming back with regularity to this forum, to see if there are any news

Keep up the good work, no matter what is that

Mata Hari · Nov 28, 2010, 02:20 PM

It's of cource very nice to see all thanks to Eugene (here too, thanks very much!).
But nobody really answered the question, does anybody have any experience with the EMU-1010-PCIe?
I too would be very interested in a kX capable pci-e card.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 10, 2010, 04:59 AM

Yeah

If anyone is willing to buy and send it to me, don't hesitate to drop me an e-mail

This one: E-MU 1010 PCIe | Creative Labs Online Store
or this one: E-MU 1212M PCIe Digital Audio System | Creative Labs Online Store

(1212M costs almost the same, unfortunately, Amazon won't ship to Russia).

E.

DReaMLaND · Dec 18, 2010, 03:11 PM

I hope that the following informations will be useful : the E-MU 1212M PCIe still uses a CA10300-IAT as DSP, which is PCI native. If you look at this picture ( http://www.ferra.ru/images/265/265810.jpg ) you will se one P17C9X, a PCI to PCIe Bridge.

Resaca · Feb 9, 2011, 01:35 AM

Any news about it

... I'm very interested in a Snowleopard driver for emu 1212M pci-e. In my 1212m, outputs work fine, but no inputs and without them I can not record

. It would be much appreciated, give support to the inputs of these cards, since there is no driver for Mac OS X, and Logic, Protools, etc only works on Mac. Thanks for your support

. (sorry for my bad english

)

ezeeri · Feb 23, 2011, 04:50 PM

First test of 1212m PCIe win 7 x64
I removed Audigy and put the Emu.
Alredy installed KX krivers give the error.
Instalation of KX with error communicate after I choose the the card (PCI DEVICE) but installation was compleated.
Reboot and all looks normal (no errors).
I can play the mp3 thru SRC FXBUS or SPDIG/AC3 (primary sound device in windows mixer) and it seems to work internal (I see the signal at mixey4x2)
I have NO output and NO input thru the card's connectors.
Analog in/out does not respond
ADAT connected to my yamaha AW4416 give everywhere noises and cracks withouyt sound and I cannot synchronize Yamaha to EMU (I'm not sure but maybe it is higher 24/196 or other standard that yamaha does not support). I was not using ADAT from computer. Similar effect is when connecting other devices to ADAT using wrong clock.
Yamaha cannot synchronize to emu SPDIF.

KX show KX Generic [5000]

3551 driver looks similar to 3550.

ezeeri · Feb 24, 2011, 09:49 PM

edspctrl -defaults returned:

==== E-mu E-DSP initialization
==== FPGA is not programmed, upload FPGA firmware...
Warning: your E-DSP card is not recognized, assume it is v2 EM8960-like
Error: FPGA programming failed!
==== E-DSP Parameters were reset to defaults
==== Dock is not connected
==== Current E-DSP status
Card: 'kX Generic [5000]'
Options: c6 - Sync Dock_online
Hana ID: c6
Versions: 1.116, 255.118, 83
Dock is Powered-off. [0xc6]
WClock: 6 [Reserved]
Def clock: -1
HANA is Unknown!
HANA IRQs: c6
SPDIF mode [c6]:
Out: Consumer; Copy-protected
In: ; Professional
Optical Type: [c6] -- Input: SPDIF, Output: ADAT
MIDI In: dock1, none [c6]
MIDI Out: c6
LEDs: 1 74 ff
ADC pads: c6 - Dock_2 Dock_3
DAC pads: c6 - Dock_2 Dock_3
Dock misc: [c6] DAC mute: 0110 headphones: 12
ADAT Locked : 33345
SPDIF Unlocked
BNC Locked : 24576000
SPDIF Locked : 45093
reg 14-1f:[c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6]
reg 30-3f:[c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6]
[c6]

Russ · Feb 24, 2011, 10:27 PM

It seems kX did not recognize the PCI ID of that card, so it did not know which firmware to use.
You might be able to get around that by uploading the firmware using kxctrl.exe (kX Console).
Again, I do not know a lot about these cards, but I did see a "-ufpga" option listed in kxctrl that appears to be used to upload firmware by filename (of course you would need the right firmware, etc).

It might be best to just wait for Eugene to reply, but I am not sure how often he checks in here, so you may want to contact him by email (using contact info from kX Project web site).

ezeeri · Feb 25, 2011, 09:23 AM

I will wait.
Thanks

Resaca · Mar 20, 2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ezeeri

edspctrl -defaults returned:

==== E-mu E-DSP initialization
==== FPGA is not programmed, upload FPGA firmware...
Warning: your E-DSP card is not recognized, assume it is v2 EM8960-like
Error: FPGA programming failed!
==== E-DSP Parameters were reset to defaults
==== Dock is not connected
==== Current E-DSP status
Card: 'kX Generic [5000]'
Options: c6 - Sync Dock_online
Hana ID: c6
Versions: 1.116, 255.118, 83
Dock is Powered-off. [0xc6]
WClock: 6 [Reserved]
Def clock: -1
HANA is Unknown!
HANA IRQs: c6
SPDIF mode [c6]:
Out: Consumer; Copy-protected
In: ; Professional
Optical Type: [c6] -- Input: SPDIF, Output: ADAT
MIDI In: dock1, none [c6]
MIDI Out: c6
LEDs: 1 74 ff
ADC pads: c6 - Dock_2 Dock_3
DAC pads: c6 - Dock_2 Dock_3
Dock misc: [c6] DAC mute: 0110 headphones: 12
ADAT Locked : 33345
SPDIF Unlocked
BNC Locked : 24576000
SPDIF Locked : 45093
reg 14-1f:[c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6]
reg 30-3f:[c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6]
[c6]

I have the same problem on Snow. It seems that the firmware of the FPGA has changed somewhat to adapt to pcie. Outputs work fine on Mac Os X, but Inputs not appears

. Thanks

Tyrsonswood · Mar 20, 2011, 06:44 PM

I thought KX drivers for Mac didn't have recording capability anyways.... whichever card was being used.

ezeeri · Mar 27, 2011, 11:53 PM

The funny thing is... when I had in computer EMU 1212m and audigy2 there was a moment that I coud use inputs from Prolog of EMU. Output was non working. When I removed audigy input of Emu gone.
I was not testing this hardly and not trying to insert audigy again.

I dont like EMU drivers (I have problem with WDM recording under win7x64)
I think that loading firmware same as 1212m PCI should help.
So please tell me more about loadking firmware process.
I dont know about type of allocation of firmware. I can try load it manually but I need to know is there a chance to destroy or made a kind unusable the card.
If the firmware is loading every time I start Windows or if the firmware will be reloaded when I install EMU drivers there is no risk because I can repair it any time.
But if the firmware reloadad to bad choice of KX can made card unusable for a time I would better wait for Eugene.

Russ · Mar 28, 2011, 09:31 AM

Again, your best bet is probably to email Eugene and ask him directly...

I doubt that loading the wrong firmware would harm your card (from the info in your previous message, it seems that kX already tried with the wrong firmware (probably emu1010b), and I do not think it would guess like that if there was a possibility of hurting the card), but I cannot say for sure (but I wouldn't recommend trying just any file).

I think it might use the same firmware (just a guess) as the PCI card, but I am not sure where you would get this firmware file from (i.e. to try to load using kX Console ufpga command (I assume it is looking for some binary version of the firmware (maybe the firmware from ALSA?, or maybe there is something on the EMU install CD?), but I am not sure)). I could probably modify edspctrl to load the firmware that it uses for the PCI card, but it's source code has me a little confused:

i.e.
Comments in the source code (edsplib.cpp) seem to indicate that the 1212m PCI is a probably a k8 model, and comments in hana_netlist.h seem to indicate that it contains the firmware for the 1212m, but I do not see any path in the source code that loads that firmware for any k8 model (also, the warning you got previously appears to only be shown with (unknown) k8 models).

Beyond the above, there is also the audio dock, which may have the same problem (i.e. different ID, etc).

BTW: You should probably post kX's "About..." info as well (to show PCI ID info, etc).

ezeeri · Apr 17, 2011, 10:33 PM

Eugene does not answer. Must be very busy.
Im a bit frustrated becouse EMU have still only beta drv for win7x64 and I cannot record my works.

If there are any conceptions how to try force KX installation with uploading firmware from normal 1212m pci I will test it even I could broke it.

Russ · Apr 18, 2011, 04:33 AM

Did you make it clear in the subject line that it is related to kX? If not, it may not be getting by his spam filters.

You could grab the firmware from ALSA and try it with the kX Console -ufpga command.
e.g.
Arch Linux - alsa-firmware 1.0.24.1-1 - Package Details
Try hana.fw from the above archive. (\lib\firmware\emu\hana.fw) which might be used by the PCI version of your card ( I am not sure). Note: It is binary version of same code used by kX (hana_netlist.h), which I think is what the (kX Console) -ufpga command wants.

If that does not work (I think kX already tried the emu1010b firmware), than it is possible that it uses different firmware or needs different code to program it, etc.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jun 11, 2011, 05:38 PM

hi Russ,

Thanks for your on-going support of the kX community

===

I haven't found any tracks of any PCI-e devices in alsa sources, and I suspect linux drivers don't support PCI-e cards. I think the cards need some different FPGA firmware, which is not available, and unfortunately cannot be extracted from E-mu/Creative drivers or the card itself...

The only solution is to load CL/E-mu drivers, unload them and reload kX without reboot.

I don't have PCI-e cards by hand still, and cannot experiment with them...
I will check if it is possible to at least add more detailed debugging output.

E.

manu83 · Jul 8, 2011, 03:41 AM

Hello everyone, I'm new on the forum, I have an (old) Emu 1820m, if I can help you known to me that I must do (I'm french and use google translate).

I can tell you is that whith 3550 i must go to edsp control and click on reload firmware then I must start the edsp control executable for pilots operating, with 3551 alpha the asio seems doesn't work but start the edsp control executable enough for pilots operating.

Resaca · Sep 23, 2011, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

hi Russ,

Thanks for your on-going support of the kX community

===

I haven't found any tracks of any PCI-e devices in alsa sources, and I suspect linux drivers don't support PCI-e cards. I think the cards need some different FPGA firmware, which is not available, and unfortunately cannot be extracted from E-mu/Creative drivers or the card itself...

The only solution is to load CL/E-mu drivers, unload them and reload kX without reboot.

I don't have PCI-e cards by hand still, and cannot experiment with them...
I will check if it is possible to at least add more detailed debugging output.

E.

Is it true that the "drivers" Kx, don´t support audio inputs EMU cards on MacOSX?.

If so, I've got the card "EMU 1212M" working well in all conditions. My procedure was as follows: Extract "kXAudioDriver.kext" from "kX Audio Driver.pkg Install." Extract "info.plis" from "kXAudioDriver.kext". Open "info.plis" and locate the following line: "<key>IOPCIMatch</key>" and below the line, change the "PCI ID", leaving only the "EMU 1212M PCI-E ID" in this way "<string>0x00081102</string>". I then added the "PCI ID" of my second card, the "Audigy 2 zs" in this way: "<string>0x00081102 0x70031102</string>", but I only got it to detect the EMU. Before, "MacOSX" didn´t detect nothing. Save changes, replace the "Info.plis" original, by "info.plis" changed into "kXAudioDriver.kext" and proceed to install with "KextBeast" for example. Next, open the program "Pacifist" and open the file "kX Audio Driver.pkg" and install only "contents of usr.pkg" and reboot. "MacOSX" should detect the card outputs, but undetected "FPGA Firmware" no sound. Then, create the following "script": "tell application" Terminal "do script" edspctrl "end tell" and make another "script": "tell application" Terminal "do script" edspctrl-reset "end tell", or every time you reboot or turn on the computer, we open "terminal" and run the command "edspctrl-reset" or "edspctrl" respectively, to activate the audio.

Sorry for my bad English.

Tyrsonswood · Sep 23, 2011, 11:20 PM

The current MacOSX Kx driver does not support inputs from what I've read. Doubt this has changed.

temelkok · Jan 10, 2012, 12:34 PM

Hi, Resaca! How do you extract from a kext file? I can not find any way to do this.

Resaca · Jan 17, 2012, 11:58 PM

Press the right mouse button over the "file.kext" and select "Show Package Contents". Thats all

. Cheers.

seeker010 · May 5, 2012, 08:29 PM

looks like ALSA has preliminary support but I can't post links. just google search for 1616m pcie linux.

Russ · May 5, 2012, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeker010

looks like ALSA has preliminary support but I can't post links. just google search for 1616m pcie linux.

From this post from Eugene, I am guessing he has made some progress on the PCIe stuff as well...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

I'm working on a =opensource= GPL-covered driver for E-mu E-DSP card (PCI and PCIe versions)

Aug 3, 2010, 10:19 PM	#1
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	E-mu PCIe devices Hi guys! It's been a very long time since my last visit here... Sorry, no luck with kX-related development at all. I've recently discovered PCIe (PCI Express) versions of the E-mu 1212m/1616m PCI devices. E-MU 1010 PCIe \| Creative Labs Online Store Anyone tried them with kX? I haven't noticed any tracks of these devices in the linux drivers, and I don't know whether their PCI IDs are different/compatible/etc. with kX. Since everyone's moving towards PCIe, and some MBs even lack PCI anymore, it might be interesting to try these cards. Just in case. E.

Aug 4, 2010, 11:47 PM	#2
peate HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 409 Rep Power: 57	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Hi Eugene. Personally, as long as my old Live card works and I can use kX DSP, I'm happy. It might be many years still before the PCI slot is gone completely, look how long ISA hung around. But I have to say, those new emu card are tempting, just to hear the sound quality. Nice to hear from you, btw, looks like everyone forgot who you were, LOL.

Sep 22, 2010, 11:04 AM	Thread Starter #3
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: E-mu PCIe devices indeed anyway, no progress with kX at all at the moment... sorry for that... E.

Nov 4, 2010, 08:00 AM	#5
vikflash HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 150 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Hi Eugene I want to take this opportunity to thank you once again for the development of KX. It has been a really great project (a kind of example about David vs Goliath ;o) It's been really stimulating over these years and it's really been a pleasure that I had the ability to give a small contribution since Dec 16, 2002. I bought a few months ago a X-Fi Elite Pro on a win7 PC. But after using KX drivers, creative ones still really lacks flexibility. I know that PCI slots are disapearing and the standart is dying but infortunately I haven't tried PCI-E soundcards Sometimes I ask myself what kind of project you're now workin' on, how do you spend your time and what makes you dream now ^^ Thanks again to all the KX team and contributors Vik PS : I still got 4 PCs with kx drivers and I'm still satisfied

Nov 12, 2010, 12:15 AM	Thread Starter #6
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: E-mu PCIe devices guys, thank you for your warm words... really... E.

Nov 14, 2010, 06:30 PM	#7
JGSF HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Hi, Eugene. I've been so happy with my PCI cards running kX that I won't be needing anything else so soon. I'll report back if I ever get one of those PCIe cards, but that will be unlikely in a near future. Thank you guys for everything. __________________ My kX plugins (actually it's only one )

Nov 15, 2010, 04:30 PM	#8
trex_daemon HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Hi Eugene. I would like to thank you for this great driver. I'm using it since 2005, and hopefully I will be able to use it in the future. I'm coming back with regularity to this forum, to see if there are any news Keep up the good work, no matter what is that

Nov 28, 2010, 02:20 PM	#9
Mata Hari HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 213 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices It's of cource very nice to see all thanks to Eugene (here too, thanks very much!). But nobody really answered the question, does anybody have any experience with the EMU-1010-PCIe? I too would be very interested in a kX capable pci-e card.

Dec 10, 2010, 04:59 AM	Thread Starter #10
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: E-mu PCIe devices Yeah If anyone is willing to buy and send it to me, don't hesitate to drop me an e-mail This one: E-MU 1010 PCIe \| Creative Labs Online Store or this one: E-MU 1212M PCIe Digital Audio System \| Creative Labs Online Store (1212M costs almost the same, unfortunately, Amazon won't ship to Russia). E.

Dec 18, 2010, 03:11 PM	#11
DReaMLaND HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices I hope that the following informations will be useful : the E-MU 1212M PCIe still uses a CA10300-IAT as DSP, which is PCI native. If you look at this picture ( http://www.ferra.ru/images/265/265810.jpg ) you will se one P17C9X, a PCI to PCIe Bridge.

Feb 9, 2011, 01:35 AM	#12
Resaca HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Any news about it ... I'm very interested in a Snowleopard driver for emu 1212M pci-e. In my 1212m, outputs work fine, but no inputs and without them I can not record . It would be much appreciated, give support to the inputs of these cards, since there is no driver for Mac OS X, and Logic, Protools, etc only works on Mac. Thanks for your support . (sorry for my bad english )

Feb 23, 2011, 04:50 PM	#13
ezeeri HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices First test of 1212m PCIe win 7 x64 I removed Audigy and put the Emu. Alredy installed KX krivers give the error. Instalation of KX with error communicate after I choose the the card (PCI DEVICE) but installation was compleated. Reboot and all looks normal (no errors). I can play the mp3 thru SRC FXBUS or SPDIG/AC3 (primary sound device in windows mixer) and it seems to work internal (I see the signal at mixey4x2) I have NO output and NO input thru the card's connectors. Analog in/out does not respond ADAT connected to my yamaha AW4416 give everywhere noises and cracks withouyt sound and I cannot synchronize Yamaha to EMU (I'm not sure but maybe it is higher 24/196 or other standard that yamaha does not support). I was not using ADAT from computer. Similar effect is when connecting other devices to ADAT using wrong clock. Yamaha cannot synchronize to emu SPDIF. KX show KX Generic [5000] 3551 driver looks similar to 3550. Last edited by ezeeri; Feb 23, 2011 at 05:51 PM.

Feb 24, 2011, 09:49 PM	#14
ezeeri HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices edspctrl -defaults returned: ==== E-mu E-DSP initialization ==== FPGA is not programmed, upload FPGA firmware... Warning: your E-DSP card is not recognized, assume it is v2 EM8960-like Error: FPGA programming failed! ==== E-DSP Parameters were reset to defaults ==== Dock is not connected ==== Current E-DSP status Card: 'kX Generic [5000]' Options: c6 - Sync Dock_online Hana ID: c6 Versions: 1.116, 255.118, 83 Dock is Powered-off. [0xc6] WClock: 6 [Reserved] Def clock: -1 HANA is Unknown! HANA IRQs: c6 SPDIF mode [c6]: Out: Consumer; Copy-protected In: ; Professional Optical Type: [c6] -- Input: SPDIF, Output: ADAT MIDI In: dock1, none [c6] MIDI Out: c6 LEDs: 1 74 ff ADC pads: c6 - Dock_2 Dock_3 DAC pads: c6 - Dock_2 Dock_3 Dock misc: [c6] DAC mute: 0110 headphones: 12 ADAT Locked : 33345 SPDIF Unlocked BNC Locked : 24576000 SPDIF Locked : 45093 reg 14-1f:[c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] reg 30-3f:[c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6] [c6]

Feb 24, 2011, 10:27 PM	#15
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Re: E-mu PCIe devices It seems kX did not recognize the PCI ID of that card, so it did not know which firmware to use. You might be able to get around that by uploading the firmware using kxctrl.exe (kX Console). Again, I do not know a lot about these cards, but I did see a "-ufpga" option listed in kxctrl that appears to be used to upload firmware by filename (of course you would need the right firmware, etc). It might be best to just wait for Eugene to reply, but I am not sure how often he checks in here, so you may want to contact him by email (using contact info from kX Project web site). Last edited by Russ; Feb 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM.

Feb 25, 2011, 09:23 AM	#16
ezeeri HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices I will wait. Thanks

Mar 27, 2011, 11:53 PM	#19
ezeeri HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices The funny thing is... when I had in computer EMU 1212m and audigy2 there was a moment that I coud use inputs from Prolog of EMU. Output was non working. When I removed audigy input of Emu gone. I was not testing this hardly and not trying to insert audigy again. I dont like EMU drivers (I have problem with WDM recording under win7x64) I think that loading firmware same as 1212m PCI should help. So please tell me more about loadking firmware process. I dont know about type of allocation of firmware. I can try load it manually but I need to know is there a chance to destroy or made a kind unusable the card. If the firmware is loading every time I start Windows or if the firmware will be reloaded when I install EMU drivers there is no risk because I can repair it any time. But if the firmware reloadad to bad choice of KX can made card unusable for a time I would better wait for Eugene.

Mar 28, 2011, 09:31 AM	#20
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Again, your best bet is probably to email Eugene and ask him directly... I doubt that loading the wrong firmware would harm your card (from the info in your previous message, it seems that kX already tried with the wrong firmware (probably emu1010b), and I do not think it would guess like that if there was a possibility of hurting the card), but I cannot say for sure (but I wouldn't recommend trying just any file). I think it might use the same firmware (just a guess) as the PCI card, but I am not sure where you would get this firmware file from (i.e. to try to load using kX Console ufpga command (I assume it is looking for some binary version of the firmware (maybe the firmware from ALSA?, or maybe there is something on the EMU install CD?), but I am not sure)). I could probably modify edspctrl to load the firmware that it uses for the PCI card, but it's source code has me a little confused: i.e. Comments in the source code (edsplib.cpp) seem to indicate that the 1212m PCI is a probably a k8 model, and comments in hana_netlist.h seem to indicate that it contains the firmware for the 1212m, but I do not see any path in the source code that loads that firmware for any k8 model (also, the warning you got previously appears to only be shown with (unknown) k8 models). Beyond the above, there is also the audio dock, which may have the same problem (i.e. different ID, etc). BTW: You should probably post kX's "About..." info as well (to show PCI ID info, etc). Last edited by Russ; Apr 3, 2011 at 01:58 PM.

Apr 17, 2011, 10:33 PM	#21
ezeeri HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Eugene does not answer. Must be very busy. Im a bit frustrated becouse EMU have still only beta drv for win7x64 and I cannot record my works. If there are any conceptions how to try force KX installation with uploading firmware from normal 1212m pci I will test it even I could broke it.

Apr 18, 2011, 04:33 AM	#22
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Did you make it clear in the subject line that it is related to kX? If not, it may not be getting by his spam filters. You could grab the firmware from ALSA and try it with the kX Console -ufpga command. e.g. Arch Linux - alsa-firmware 1.0.24.1-1 - Package Details Try hana.fw from the above archive. (\lib\firmware\emu\hana.fw) which might be used by the PCI version of your card ( I am not sure). Note: It is binary version of same code used by kX (hana_netlist.h), which I think is what the (kX Console) -ufpga command wants. If that does not work (I think kX already tried the emu1010b firmware), than it is possible that it uses different firmware or needs different code to program it, etc.

Jun 11, 2011, 05:38 PM	Thread Starter #23
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	Îòâåò: E-mu PCIe devices hi Russ, Thanks for your on-going support of the kX community === I haven't found any tracks of any PCI-e devices in alsa sources, and I suspect linux drivers don't support PCI-e cards. I think the cards need some different FPGA firmware, which is not available, and unfortunately cannot be extracted from E-mu/Creative drivers or the card itself... The only solution is to load CL/E-mu drivers, unload them and reload kX without reboot. I don't have PCI-e cards by hand still, and cannot experiment with them... I will check if it is possible to at least add more detailed debugging output. E.

Jul 8, 2011, 03:41 AM	#24
manu83 HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re : E-mu PCIe devices Hello everyone, I'm new on the forum, I have an (old) Emu 1820m, if I can help you known to me that I must do (I'm french and use google translate). I can tell you is that whith 3550 i must go to edsp control and click on reload firmware then I must start the edsp control executable for pilots operating, with 3551 alpha the asio seems doesn't work but start the edsp control executable enough for pilots operating.

Jan 10, 2012, 12:34 PM	#27
temelkok HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re: Îòâåò: E-mu PCIe devices Hi, Resaca! How do you extract from a kext file? I can not find any way to do this.

Jan 17, 2012, 11:58 PM	#28
Resaca HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices Press the right mouse button over the "file.kext" and select "Show Package Contents". Thats all . Cheers.

May 5, 2012, 08:29 PM	#29
seeker010 HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re: E-mu PCIe devices looks like ALSA has preliminary support but I can't post links. just google search for 1616m pcie linux.