Two SBLive!s in Cubase SX ...?

northstah · Sep 3, 2003, 11:12 AM

Hello,

I'm kinda new to this forum, so I do not now if this question was asked before, but I didn't find anything, so I'll ask this:

I use the KX Drivers for about 1 1/2 months, they work fine, latency is very low I use both outputs (front and rear) for 4 mono-outs... everything works fine for me, now a Friend gave me his old SBLive! Value (Model 4832) and I wanted to use that together with my SBLive Player1024 (Model 4760) to get 8 Outputs in CubaseSX...
There were no problems i installing and confihuring the second Soundcard, but in Cubase I only can use one Soundcard at a time...
Can someone tell me how I configure CubaseSX and the KX Driver to use all outputs ???
Oh and by the way, can I use both inputs to record audio on 2 seperate tracks as well ?

I hope someone can answer me this, because it would really help me with my music...

NorthStah

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 4, 2003, 11:40 PM

unfortunately, the ASIO driver cannot handle two cards:
1. this is not supported directly by the ASIO specification
2. the cards cannot be synchronized due to different clock sources

so, you probably need to use one card, say, for SoundFonts and MIDI, while using another one for ASIO
you can also try using other software, such as Sonar -- kX Driver fully supports multiple cards in DirectSound mode, as well as in Kernel Streaming mode (thus giving 10ms latency in Sonar)

/E

Daniel Drummond · Sep 5, 2003, 02:57 AM

You can always daisy chain the cards through digital output and input to make them work together with ASIO. I used to do that.

geraldandreas · Sep 5, 2003, 07:57 AM

for me it´s the same like for Daniel, you can connect the cards digital. on the 1st card, put the cable on the aud_ext pins. look at http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/gad/dokus , maybe it helps. regards, gerald

northstah · Sep 5, 2003, 07:12 PM

Thanks for the answers,
well, I'm sorry to hear, that ASIO doesn't work with two cards... :-(

Why should I connect the cards digitally, I don't understand how I can use them in the Digital way ? and what advantage do two cards give me, when I connect them internal ? Isn't the "digital out" of card 1 connected to "digital in" in card 2 ? If so, then all outputs of Crad 1 are routed to the outputs on Card 2, right ? Then there is no advantage in using two cards... or am I wrong ???
I do not use any effects of the soundcards or "advanced" features, just the outputs... I have hardware effect-Processors and an Hardware Mixer and just use my PC as multitrack-recorder for Vocals and "Downmixing" of a Song, therefore 8 Analog Outs to the Mixer would be great...

By the way, I can not use the analog outs of both cards, right ? Therefore I have no use of a second card, because I wanted to be able to mix 8 Analog Outputs at my ((of course) Hardware) Mixer...

Is there no way to use two SBLive!s to get 8 Analog-Outs ???
Can I use another Soundcard (some cheap musician-card, Terratec DMX or something like that...) with own drivers to get more Audio-Outputs in Cubase ???

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Sep 6, 2003, 01:38 AM

even if you daisy chain the cards, the ASIO driver will allow you to use only one of them (for wave playback, of course)

however, as I've already mentioned, you can use as many cards as you wish with Sonar (with all the outputs accessible simultaneously and independently)
note that Sonar should be configured to work with KernelStreaming drivers
however, the multitrack recording option won't be available

/E

Nappylady · Sep 9, 2003, 04:27 PM

Wait a minute.

I'm using Cubase SX, and I configured my soundblaster Live's (I have 3 in my comp) to all be active in Cubase.

This procedure is NOT for the faint of heart, impatient, or anyone with ADHD.

Devices -> Device Setup
VST Multitrack
Control Panel
Advanced Options...
In that control panel, you can select which input and output ports you want active. (As a suggestion, enable 0/1, 4/5, 6/7, and 8/9 on JUST ONE CARD and use them as your 4 buses!) The ASIO applet *WILL* allow you to use inputs/outputs from more than one card, but as the clock sources are different, this is a BAD IDEA.

After that, (ugh, more hoops) you have to use Devices -> VST Inputs and VST Outputs to enable the inputs and outputs so you can actually use them. In the VST Inputs window, any plural inputs will be invisible until you resize the window so you can see them. (How irritating!)

BEWARE!!! Don't try to pull inputs off more than one card, and don't try to send outputs to more than one card, or the sync issues will drive you batty! I tried to make it work, but found that even when mixing a song less than 2 minutes long, over the length of the song the sync would drift about 50 ms out of true! (Mine were different model numbers, I think that had something to do with it.)

In order to get 8 channels of output, use the DSP applet to route some of the wave outputs to analog outs and the others to SPDIF outputs that are on the card itself and not on a rear jack. Then open your computer and connect the SPDIF outputs of that card to the SPDIF inputs of the second card, and use the DSP applet to route the SPDIF's you just connected, to analog outputs.

Understand that the outputs on the second card will go through a resampling filter before being DAC'd, regardless of how close the sample rates are.

Good luck to you!

northstah · Sep 9, 2003, 09:02 PM

If I understand that right, you mean I can connect a Digital output of my SBLive Player1024 (Main-Card with connections of the Analog-Outs to my mixer) that is on the board itself to the onboard digital Input of the other SBLive right ? So the Digital Output is routed to an analog Output on the other card... pretty clever, I had neber thought of this method... so in Cubase all Audio-Outputs are routed to ONE Soundcard... therefore no Timingproblems and the digital-Out appears at the analog-Out of another card... I like that !

I'll give it a try and post if it works...

A whole lot of thanks man !!!

NorthStah

northstah · Sep 9, 2003, 10:36 PM

Well, I connected My Cards Digital... I think (I connected PIN 15&16 of the aud_ext connectors of my SBLive CT4760 with PIN 17&18 on the CT4832...).
But which S/PDIF in and out is it ???
I just don't get it to work... can someone give me a hint on which connections I have to make in the DSP and which Digital ins/outs in the mixer I should turn on ?

And Nappylady, you seem to know a little of Cubase, how do I have to configure the VST-Outputs to use the correct ASIO Outs and therefore correct Outputs on the Soundcard ?

Well, it seems that I am a noob after all...

I would be happy, if someone could tell me something like: "Do this... and then that...!" and then it works...
would be really great! But with some hints on how to connect the Soundcards right and how to set the KX-Mixer and DSP I would be satisfied...

Thanks for all your help !

NorthStah

Nappylady · Sep 9, 2003, 11:09 PM

Well, on the jumpers, I can say that I completely don't know. If I knew, I probably would have them hooked up in my computer already. This is a VERY useful tweak and I'd love to make it happen.

As for the VST outputs, it's like I said: you have to enable it in the ASIO control panel, and then enable it in the VST outputs section. (To enable it in the VST outputs dialog, you have to press the little on/off button. This is highly unintuitive and should've been a checkbox.) The VST outputs box tells you all the information you need to know--it tells you what the output is named, so you can route tracks to it, and it tells you which literal device it's connected to.

The important thing to realize is that Cubase only gets it as far as the FXbus, and after that, it's all up to you to make sure everything is routed to the right place. If you follow my suggestion to get a 2x8 multitracker, that means that four FXbus channels (0,1,4,5) are routed to analog outputs on the card, and four channels (6,7,8,9) are routed to SPDIF outputs on the physical card.

Then you have to get the actual physical cable to go from one card to the other. *sigh* I have no idea how to help you here.

On the other card, you have to have the SPDIF inputs (2 inputs, 4 channels) routed directly to the analog outputs of that card.

After that, you have to route the things to your mixer, or ADAT machine, or what-have-you.

Beyond this, I have no more advice. Sorry!

geraldandreas · Sep 10, 2003, 08:08 AM

look at http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/gad/dokus/index.html , there is a pic with the connectors on aud_ext. i think, this will help you. look for the spdif-out, for spdif-in, you can use the cd-digital directly on the card.

northstah · Sep 10, 2003, 11:11 AM

THANKS A LOT !!!

With all your tips I was finally able to connect the two cards and now get three Analog Stereo-Outputs in Cubase, that I can mix on my Hardware mixer !... I'm looking forward to connect another Analog IN/OUT-combo, to get 4 Stereo-Outs, but that's not so much important... by the way, I don't really like the connection between the physical digital ins and outs on the card with the KX-Software-Mixer-App... It took me a little bit of time to find out, which digital Input in the mixer is the right one for S/PDIF 0#0... and the DSP... I connected the Center with Generic S/PDIF Left and the Subwoofer with Generic S/PDIF Right... uh, it's all so confusing and I don't really know how I should connect the second Digital Out with another Digital in... but I'm pretty shure I will find out somehow...

I thank you all for your Help !!!

I will post If i get the second Digital IN/OUT connection between the cards to work...

Oh man, you guys are cool, thanks a lot...!

NorthStah

Nappylady · Sep 10, 2003, 01:17 PM

Heh, I notice you're using the exact same mixer as me

Now that I think about it, using the same trick, you could get 4 channels in on the same card... though, getting Cubase to see them might be a hard trick.

Glad to hear you got it working though. Thanks!

northstah · Sep 10, 2003, 06:06 PM

It won't stop working

Well, I got the second ouput working! Never thought that it would be so easy, but I'm gettin' deeper into the matter and the second configuration was very simple (compared to the first one

)...

You have the same mixer? That's nice! I like it very much!

So you think about 4 Stereo inputs ? hm... well, I don't know... isn't there something like "The AC97 mixes all input sources to ONE stereo input signal ?"
But how do the Digital Inputs work?...
Well, maybe I'll try to use more than just one input, but for know I am very happy with all my Outputs... Ooh, what am I gonna do with so many outputs...? Well, well...

I will route some AudioTracks to them, that's what I'm gonna do !

So, again THANKS for all your help (especially Nappylady and geraldandreas), I nearly gave up the "More than 2 Outputs"-Thought but because of you and this forum, I actually was able to get 4 Stereo outputs working on two SB Live!'s... I can not thank you enough...

I love KX-Drivers, and I love this Forum !

NorthStah

Nappylady · Sep 10, 2003, 06:18 PM

Using 2 SBLive's, you can get 8 analog channels of fully-synced output, without a hitch!

My current setup is like this:

2 stereo channels output from each card (for multitracking and synthesizing; synth1 to one output and synth2 to the other.) so that I can have 4 independant synths going simultaneously. (By panning the MIDI hard left and right, I get 8 separate MIDI synthed voices. Way cool!) The Line-in on these two cards comes from the AUX sends of the mixer (these things are so handy!) and are routed to different effects (currently 2 reverbs, a slapback delay, and a bad copy of the Mackie "air" sound, but the effects get changed on a whim!) which are, in turn, sent out the analog center/subwoofer outputs and return on the "stereo return inputs" on the mixer. Thus, I have a full-featured effects loop with 4 effects! Score!

So, I only have 2x4 multitracking now, but when I get home from my gig tonight, I think I'll implement this little trick (the SPDIF from one card to the other) and expand to 2x8 multitracking. Kickin'!

It is an awesome mixer, too... while I have totally maxed it out before, it's hard to do!

Sep 3, 2003, 11:12 AM	#1
northstah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hannover/Germany Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Two SBLive!s in Cubase SX ...? Hello, I'm kinda new to this forum, so I do not now if this question was asked before, but I didn't find anything, so I'll ask this: I use the KX Drivers for about 1 1/2 months, they work fine, latency is very low I use both outputs (front and rear) for 4 mono-outs... everything works fine for me, now a Friend gave me his old SBLive! Value (Model 4832) and I wanted to use that together with my SBLive Player1024 (Model 4760) to get 8 Outputs in CubaseSX... There were no problems i installing and confihuring the second Soundcard, but in Cubase I only can use one Soundcard at a time... Can someone tell me how I configure CubaseSX and the KX Driver to use all outputs ??? Oh and by the way, can I use both inputs to record audio on 2 seperate tracks as well ? I hope someone can answer me this, because it would really help me with my music... NorthStah __________________ My PC: AMD AthlonXP 2000+; 512 MB DDR-Ram; 60GB HD 7200Upm; 40GB HD 7200Upm; SBlive! Player1024 (model: 4760); SBLive! Value (Model: 4832); CubaseSX (Ver. 1.06.78); Wavelab4;... My Hardware: Behringer Eurorack MX2642A; E-MU ESI4000, Turbo-Option-Kit, 32MB Ram, Internal ZIP100; ALESIS MIDIVERB2; AKAI S1100, 32MB Ram, ext. CD-Rom;...

Sep 5, 2003, 02:57 AM	#3
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	You can always daisy chain the cards through digital output and input to make them work together with ASIO. I used to do that. __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Sep 5, 2003, 07:57 AM	#4
geraldandreas KX-Driver Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: in the heart of EU, near vienna Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	for me it´s the same like for Daniel, you can connect the cards digital. on the 1st card, put the cable on the aud_ext pins. look at http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/gad/dokus , maybe it helps. regards, gerald __________________ Gerald 1; Core2-Q9450, x38-Mobo, 2048mb, 2x SATA-HD, SB0092+LD, XP/sp3

Sep 5, 2003, 07:12 PM	Thread Starter #5
northstah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hannover/Germany Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the answers, well, I'm sorry to hear, that ASIO doesn't work with two cards... :-( Why should I connect the cards digitally, I don't understand how I can use them in the Digital way ? and what advantage do two cards give me, when I connect them internal ? Isn't the "digital out" of card 1 connected to "digital in" in card 2 ? If so, then all outputs of Crad 1 are routed to the outputs on Card 2, right ? Then there is no advantage in using two cards... or am I wrong ??? I do not use any effects of the soundcards or "advanced" features, just the outputs... I have hardware effect-Processors and an Hardware Mixer and just use my PC as multitrack-recorder for Vocals and "Downmixing" of a Song, therefore 8 Analog Outs to the Mixer would be great... By the way, I can not use the analog outs of both cards, right ? Therefore I have no use of a second card, because I wanted to be able to mix 8 Analog Outputs at my ((of course) Hardware) Mixer... Is there no way to use two SBLive!s to get 8 Analog-Outs ??? Can I use another Soundcard (some cheap musician-card, Terratec DMX or something like that...) with own drivers to get more Audio-Outputs in Cubase ??? __________________ My PC: AMD AthlonXP 2000+; 512 MB DDR-Ram; 60GB HD 7200Upm; 40GB HD 7200Upm; SBlive! Player1024 (model: 4760); SBLive! Value (Model: 4832); CubaseSX (Ver. 1.06.78); Wavelab4;... My Hardware: Behringer Eurorack MX2642A; E-MU ESI4000, Turbo-Option-Kit, 32MB Ram, Internal ZIP100; ALESIS MIDIVERB2; AKAI S1100, 32MB Ram, ext. CD-Rom;...

Sep 9, 2003, 09:02 PM	Thread Starter #8
northstah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hannover/Germany Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Thanks ! If I understand that right, you mean I can connect a Digital output of my SBLive Player1024 (Main-Card with connections of the Analog-Outs to my mixer) that is on the board itself to the onboard digital Input of the other SBLive right ? So the Digital Output is routed to an analog Output on the other card... pretty clever, I had neber thought of this method... so in Cubase all Audio-Outputs are routed to ONE Soundcard... therefore no Timingproblems and the digital-Out appears at the analog-Out of another card... I like that ! I'll give it a try and post if it works... A whole lot of thanks man !!! NorthStah __________________ My PC: AMD AthlonXP 2000+; 512 MB DDR-Ram; 60GB HD 7200Upm; 40GB HD 7200Upm; SBlive! Player1024 (model: 4760); SBLive! Value (Model: 4832); CubaseSX (Ver. 1.06.78); Wavelab4;... My Hardware: Behringer Eurorack MX2642A; E-MU ESI4000, Turbo-Option-Kit, 32MB Ram, Internal ZIP100; ALESIS MIDIVERB2; AKAI S1100, 32MB Ram, ext. CD-Rom;...

Sep 4, 2003, 11:40 PM	#2
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	unfortunately, the ASIO driver cannot handle two cards: 1. this is not supported directly by the ASIO specification 2. the cards cannot be synchronized due to different clock sources so, you probably need to use one card, say, for SoundFonts and MIDI, while using another one for ASIO you can also try using other software, such as Sonar -- kX Driver fully supports multiple cards in DirectSound mode, as well as in Kernel Streaming mode (thus giving 10ms latency in Sonar) /E

Sep 6, 2003, 01:38 AM	#6
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	even if you daisy chain the cards, the ASIO driver will allow you to use only one of them (for wave playback, of course) however, as I've already mentioned, you can use as many cards as you wish with Sonar (with all the outputs accessible simultaneously and independently) note that Sonar should be configured to work with KernelStreaming drivers however, the multitrack recording option won't be available /E

Sep 9, 2003, 04:27 PM	#7
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Wait a minute. I'm using Cubase SX, and I configured my soundblaster Live's (I have 3 in my comp) to all be active in Cubase. This procedure is NOT for the faint of heart, impatient, or anyone with ADHD. Devices -> Device Setup VST Multitrack Control Panel Advanced Options... In that control panel, you can select which input and output ports you want active. (As a suggestion, enable 0/1, 4/5, 6/7, and 8/9 on JUST ONE CARD and use them as your 4 buses!) The ASIO applet WILL allow you to use inputs/outputs from more than one card, but as the clock sources are different, this is a BAD IDEA. After that, (ugh, more hoops) you have to use Devices -> VST Inputs and VST Outputs to enable the inputs and outputs so you can actually use them. In the VST Inputs window, any plural inputs will be invisible until you resize the window so you can see them. (How irritating!) BEWARE!!! Don't try to pull inputs off more than one card, and don't try to send outputs to more than one card, or the sync issues will drive you batty! I tried to make it work, but found that even when mixing a song less than 2 minutes long, over the length of the song the sync would drift about 50 ms out of true! (Mine were different model numbers, I think that had something to do with it.) In order to get 8 channels of output, use the DSP applet to route some of the wave outputs to analog outs and the others to SPDIF outputs that are on the card itself and not on a rear jack. Then open your computer and connect the SPDIF outputs of that card to the SPDIF inputs of the second card, and use the DSP applet to route the SPDIF's you just connected, to analog outputs. Understand that the outputs on the second card will go through a resampling filter before being DAC'd, regardless of how close the sample rates are. Good luck to you!

Sep 9, 2003, 10:36 PM	Thread Starter #9
northstah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hannover/Germany Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Digital connection Well, I connected My Cards Digital... I think (I connected PIN 15&16 of the aud_ext connectors of my SBLive CT4760 with PIN 17&18 on the CT4832...). But which S/PDIF in and out is it ??? I just don't get it to work... can someone give me a hint on which connections I have to make in the DSP and which Digital ins/outs in the mixer I should turn on ? And Nappylady, you seem to know a little of Cubase, how do I have to configure the VST-Outputs to use the correct ASIO Outs and therefore correct Outputs on the Soundcard ? Well, it seems that I am a noob after all... I would be happy, if someone could tell me something like: "Do this... and then that...!" and then it works... would be really great! But with some hints on how to connect the Soundcards right and how to set the KX-Mixer and DSP I would be satisfied... Thanks for all your help ! NorthStah __________________ My PC: AMD AthlonXP 2000+; 512 MB DDR-Ram; 60GB HD 7200Upm; 40GB HD 7200Upm; SBlive! Player1024 (model: 4760); SBLive! Value (Model: 4832); CubaseSX (Ver. 1.06.78); Wavelab4;... My Hardware: Behringer Eurorack MX2642A; E-MU ESI4000, Turbo-Option-Kit, 32MB Ram, Internal ZIP100; ALESIS MIDIVERB2; AKAI S1100, 32MB Ram, ext. CD-Rom;...

Sep 9, 2003, 11:09 PM	#10
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Well, on the jumpers, I can say that I completely don't know. If I knew, I probably would have them hooked up in my computer already. This is a VERY useful tweak and I'd love to make it happen. As for the VST outputs, it's like I said: you have to enable it in the ASIO control panel, and then enable it in the VST outputs section. (To enable it in the VST outputs dialog, you have to press the little on/off button. This is highly unintuitive and should've been a checkbox.) The VST outputs box tells you all the information you need to know--it tells you what the output is named, so you can route tracks to it, and it tells you which literal device it's connected to. The important thing to realize is that Cubase only gets it as far as the FXbus, and after that, it's all up to you to make sure everything is routed to the right place. If you follow my suggestion to get a 2x8 multitracker, that means that four FXbus channels (0,1,4,5) are routed to analog outputs on the card, and four channels (6,7,8,9) are routed to SPDIF outputs on the physical card. Then you have to get the actual physical cable to go from one card to the other. sigh I have no idea how to help you here. On the other card, you have to have the SPDIF inputs (2 inputs, 4 channels) routed directly to the analog outputs of that card. After that, you have to route the things to your mixer, or ADAT machine, or what-have-you. Beyond this, I have no more advice. Sorry!

Sep 10, 2003, 08:08 AM	#11
geraldandreas KX-Driver Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: in the heart of EU, near vienna Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	look at http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/gad/dokus/index.html , there is a pic with the connectors on aud_ext. i think, this will help you. look for the spdif-out, for spdif-in, you can use the cd-digital directly on the card. __________________ Gerald 1; Core2-Q9450, x38-Mobo, 2048mb, 2x SATA-HD, SB0092+LD, XP/sp3

Sep 10, 2003, 11:11 AM	Thread Starter #12
northstah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hannover/Germany Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	WooHooo!!!! I DID IT ! THANKS A LOT !!! With all your tips I was finally able to connect the two cards and now get three Analog Stereo-Outputs in Cubase, that I can mix on my Hardware mixer !... I'm looking forward to connect another Analog IN/OUT-combo, to get 4 Stereo-Outs, but that's not so much important... by the way, I don't really like the connection between the physical digital ins and outs on the card with the KX-Software-Mixer-App... It took me a little bit of time to find out, which digital Input in the mixer is the right one for S/PDIF 0#0... and the DSP... I connected the Center with Generic S/PDIF Left and the Subwoofer with Generic S/PDIF Right... uh, it's all so confusing and I don't really know how I should connect the second Digital Out with another Digital in... but I'm pretty shure I will find out somehow... I thank you all for your Help !!! I will post If i get the second Digital IN/OUT connection between the cards to work... Oh man, you guys are cool, thanks a lot...! NorthStah __________________ My PC: AMD AthlonXP 2000+; 512 MB DDR-Ram; 60GB HD 7200Upm; 40GB HD 7200Upm; SBlive! Player1024 (model: 4760); SBLive! Value (Model: 4832); CubaseSX (Ver. 1.06.78); Wavelab4;... My Hardware: Behringer Eurorack MX2642A; E-MU ESI4000, Turbo-Option-Kit, 32MB Ram, Internal ZIP100; ALESIS MIDIVERB2; AKAI S1100, 32MB Ram, ext. CD-Rom;...

Sep 10, 2003, 01:17 PM	#13
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Heh, I notice you're using the exact same mixer as me Now that I think about it, using the same trick, you could get 4 channels in on the same card... though, getting Cubase to see them might be a hard trick. Glad to hear you got it working though. Thanks!

Sep 10, 2003, 06:06 PM	Thread Starter #14
northstah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hannover/Germany Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	It's working, it's working ! It won't stop working Well, I got the second ouput working! Never thought that it would be so easy, but I'm gettin' deeper into the matter and the second configuration was very simple (compared to the first one )... You have the same mixer? That's nice! I like it very much! So you think about 4 Stereo inputs ? hm... well, I don't know... isn't there something like "The AC97 mixes all input sources to ONE stereo input signal ?" But how do the Digital Inputs work?... Well, maybe I'll try to use more than just one input, but for know I am very happy with all my Outputs... Ooh, what am I gonna do with so many outputs...? Well, well... I will route some AudioTracks to them, that's what I'm gonna do ! So, again THANKS for all your help (especially Nappylady and geraldandreas), I nearly gave up the "More than 2 Outputs"-Thought but because of you and this forum, I actually was able to get 4 Stereo outputs working on two SB Live!'s... I can not thank you enough... I love KX-Drivers, and I love this Forum ! NorthStah __________________ My PC: AMD AthlonXP 2000+; 512 MB DDR-Ram; 60GB HD 7200Upm; 40GB HD 7200Upm; SBlive! Player1024 (model: 4760); SBLive! Value (Model: 4832); CubaseSX (Ver. 1.06.78); Wavelab4;... My Hardware: Behringer Eurorack MX2642A; E-MU ESI4000, Turbo-Option-Kit, 32MB Ram, Internal ZIP100; ALESIS MIDIVERB2; AKAI S1100, 32MB Ram, ext. CD-Rom;...

Sep 10, 2003, 06:18 PM	#15
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Why stop at 4? Using 2 SBLive's, you can get 8 analog channels of fully-synced output, without a hitch! My current setup is like this: 2 stereo channels output from each card (for multitracking and synthesizing; synth1 to one output and synth2 to the other.) so that I can have 4 independant synths going simultaneously. (By panning the MIDI hard left and right, I get 8 separate MIDI synthed voices. Way cool!) The Line-in on these two cards comes from the AUX sends of the mixer (these things are so handy!) and are routed to different effects (currently 2 reverbs, a slapback delay, and a bad copy of the Mackie "air" sound, but the effects get changed on a whim!) which are, in turn, sent out the analog center/subwoofer outputs and return on the "stereo return inputs" on the mixer. Thus, I have a full-featured effects loop with 4 effects! Score! So, I only have 2x4 multitracking now, but when I get home from my gig tonight, I think I'll implement this little trick (the SPDIF from one card to the other) and expand to 2x8 multitracking. Kickin'! It is an awesome mixer, too... while I have totally maxed it out before, it's hard to do!