3536a development release is out

nicklad · Oct 26, 2003, 09:34 PM

Something else I have noiced:

The quality seems to have somehow gone down in the 36's.

Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop.
When I change the volume using the buttons on my multimedia keyboard - i get a pop for each step.
Load music seems to distort somewhat. (Slightly scratchy)

Has anybody else noticed this, or is it just me?

Observations done using Sennhiser headphones plugged into the live drive II.

----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Oct 22 2003 22:40:38
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3536 - debug
DB Name:LiveBay1
CT4760 10k1 [ff80]
PCI Information:
Device: 21102 Subsys: 80401102 ChipRev: 7
Card has MPU device
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: TriTech TR A5/CT1297 TAT
3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement
Codec is 1.0 compliant
Capabilities[0] :
DAC resolutions : -16-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit-
Ext Capabilities [0]:
Port: ff80 Irq: 0x9(9)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 1; 2 5 1 Service Pack 1; 156 148]
----------------------------------------------------

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Oct 26, 2003, 10:31 PM

>> Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop.

can anyone confirm that?

>> vertical/horizontal peaks mismatch

confirmed

/E

RIV@NVX · Oct 27, 2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicklad
Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop.
When I change the volume using the buttons on my multimedia keyboard - i get a pop for each step.
Load music seems to distort somewhat. (Slightly scratchy)

I can't reproduce any of these using foobar2000 and Audigy2.

Lex Nahumury · Oct 27, 2003, 11:05 PM

>> Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop.

>>can anyone confirm that?

Yep, in Mediaplayer I get a slight pop(doesn't bother me), but no distortion or sound degradation.

/LeMury

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Oct 27, 2003, 11:44 PM

>> Yep, in Mediaplayer I get a slight pop(doesn't bother me), but no distortion or sound degradation.

well, I haven't changed anything in 3536, related to audio playback and/or sound quality...
was the pop audible in 3535/3534?..

/E

Robert McClelland · Oct 28, 2003, 04:07 AM

Eugene soons you get this slove I test out the beta version of them

Lex Nahumury · Oct 28, 2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene Gavrilov
[Bwas the pop audible in 3535/3534?..[/B]

I can't remember.( I never payed any attentioned to it)

/LeMury

eyagos · Oct 28, 2003, 10:43 AM

Well, you are talking about Windows Media Player, true?

I have noticed that issue too. But I'm sure that the problem is in WMP, and not in the drivers. In example:

1- When changing to another place into a song, first the sound is off, and then it starts suddenly and a little pop can be heard.
2- When playing an empty "sound" (a 20" file generated with an aduio program), no pop is heard ...

3- And the final prove: In Foobar2000 no pop is heard when changing position. But instead a little "fade in" is heard.

And I get the ocassion to say that 3536a version works perfectly in my computer, but only if I disable Hyper Threading in BIOS.

gunther · Oct 28, 2003, 06:15 PM

DS pitch-shifting and looping audio crackling are still present on Op Flashpoint.

kuja · Oct 29, 2003, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gunther
DS pitch-shifting and looping audio crackling are still present on Op Flashpoint.

I can confirm that. Crackling, missing channels in 2.0, and inconsistent pitch-shifting.

TravelRec. · Oct 29, 2003, 08:26 AM

Hi!

With WinAmp 3 there are no problems with any kx driver by changing track-positions or selecting new titles or wild switching between them - so this one may have better playback routines than mediaplayer!?!
So I never want to open mediaplayer anymore.

Cheers!

TravelRec.

nicklad · Oct 29, 2003, 07:03 PM

Another bug:

Play any sound file, drag an appropriate mixer up and down quickly - either in kX or the windows mixer.

You hear lots of small cracks and pops...

Can this be fixed?

nicklad · Oct 29, 2003, 07:10 PM

The reason that there are no pop's/crack's present when switching track position in winamp is because it blends the track in to what it has been playing previously. - If not playing anything, it blends in from nothing.

It still might be a problem with kX...

kokoon · Oct 29, 2003, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kuja
I can confirm that. Crackling, missing channels in 2.0, and inconsistent pitch-shifting.

YAY!! the real kx pitchshifting effect is finaly here!!!

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Oct 29, 2003, 11:20 PM

>> You hear lots of small cracks and pops

this is not kX bug -- your system needs tweaking / re-configuring

>> DS pitchshifting

this is expected -- we need to find the bug in our present kX3D implementation (this might take time..)

/E

Oct 28, 2003, 04:07 AM	#36
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Oct 29, 2003, 08:26 AM	#41
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi! With WinAmp 3 there are no problems with any kx driver by changing track-positions or selecting new titles or wild switching between them - so this one may have better playback routines than mediaplayer!?! So I never want to open mediaplayer anymore. Cheers! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Oct 29, 2003, 07:10 PM	#43
nicklad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	The reason that there are no pop's/crack's present when switching track position in winamp is because it blends the track in to what it has been playing previously. - If not playing anything, it blends in from nothing. It still might be a problem with kX... Last edited by nicklad; Oct 29, 2003 at 07:24 PM.

Oct 26, 2003, 09:34 PM	#31
nicklad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Something else I have noiced: The quality seems to have somehow gone down in the 36's. Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop. When I change the volume using the buttons on my multimedia keyboard - i get a pop for each step. Load music seems to distort somewhat. (Slightly scratchy) Has anybody else noticed this, or is it just me? Observations done using Sennhiser headphones plugged into the live drive II. ----Hardware / Software configuration--------------- Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug) Driver Date: Oct 22 2003 22:40:38 Driver Version: 5.10.00.3536 - debug DB Name:LiveBay1 CT4760 10k1 [ff80] PCI Information: Device: 21102 Subsys: 80401102 ChipRev: 7 Card has MPU device Card HAS AC97 codec Codec name: TriTech TR A5/CT1297 TAT 3D Extension: No 3D Stereo Enhancement Codec is 1.0 compliant Capabilities[0] : DAC resolutions : -16-bit- ADC resolutions : -16-bit- Ext Capabilities [0]: Port: ff80 Irq: 0x9(9) Playback buffer: 20a0 Record buffer: 4000 Number of AC3 buffers: 4 Tank memory: 256 kb GSIF buffer: 256 samples OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 1; 2 5 1 Service Pack 1; 156 148] ----------------------------------------------------

Oct 26, 2003, 10:31 PM	Thread Starter #32
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	>> Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop. can anyone confirm that? >> vertical/horizontal peaks mismatch confirmed /E

Oct 27, 2003, 11:05 PM	#34
Lex Nahumury DH Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,932 Rep Power: 64	>> Changing to another place within a track in media player results in a slight pop. >>can anyone confirm that? Yep, in Mediaplayer I get a slight pop(doesn't bother me), but no distortion or sound degradation. /LeMury

Oct 27, 2003, 11:44 PM	Thread Starter #35
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	>> Yep, in Mediaplayer I get a slight pop(doesn't bother me), but no distortion or sound degradation. well, I haven't changed anything in 3536, related to audio playback and/or sound quality... was the pop audible in 3535/3534?.. /E

Oct 28, 2003, 10:43 AM	#38
eyagos DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Well, you are talking about Windows Media Player, true? I have noticed that issue too. But I'm sure that the problem is in WMP, and not in the drivers. In example: 1- When changing to another place into a song, first the sound is off, and then it starts suddenly and a little pop can be heard. 2- When playing an empty "sound" (a 20" file generated with an aduio program), no pop is heard ... 3- And the final prove: In Foobar2000 no pop is heard when changing position. But instead a little "fade in" is heard. And I get the ocassion to say that 3536a version works perfectly in my computer, but only if I disable Hyper Threading in BIOS.

Oct 28, 2003, 06:15 PM	#39
gunther DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: error. Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	DS pitch-shifting and looping audio crackling are still present on Op Flashpoint.

Oct 29, 2003, 07:03 PM	#42
nicklad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Another bug: Play any sound file, drag an appropriate mixer up and down quickly - either in kX or the windows mixer. You hear lots of small cracks and pops... Can this be fixed?

Oct 29, 2003, 11:20 PM	Thread Starter #45
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	>> You hear lots of small cracks and pops this is not kX bug -- your system needs tweaking / re-configuring >> DS pitchshifting this is expected -- we need to find the bug in our present kX3D implementation (this might take time..) /E