Logic is crawling .. I need some help.

Sako · Apr 7, 2004, 02:21 AM

Hello, i have a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 with Kx drivers. I've installed Logic Audio 5.5.1 and i set the audio driver configurations correctly. I did what you guys recommended here, Minimum of inputs and outputs.. I did everything. But, Everytime i open logic - if i press on a menu, it takes about a minute to open, everything i do, from clicking a button or playing an instrument takes minutes. Hell, how did i open an instrument? It took me a long long time to do so. Anyway, someone know how to solve it? Logic is crawling, and its so slow that it's.. Not reacting! Someone have an idea what should i do to solve this problem? Thanks!

My PC is:

AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Gigabyte 7VRXP Rev 2.0
768MB DDR 333MHz
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 with KX Drivers
Geforce4 Ti4200

Daniel Drummond · Apr 7, 2004, 03:02 AM

check if you have some cpu cooling software enabled or another software which is taking up resources (check it with ctrl+alt+del).

miguel · Apr 7, 2004, 03:11 AM

any virtual midi ports?

**dj_stick** · Apr 7, 2004, 04:21 AM

check HDD usage if possible… if you have a slow HDD or really fragmented (can be seen with LOOOONG boot times) this may affect logic… run the defrag tool a couple of times and then try to run logic

miguel · Apr 7, 2004, 04:49 PM

to me it looks more like some midi feedback... check cpu usage with task manager

Sako · Apr 7, 2004, 05:26 PM

Guys, my HDD (Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM) is working great and im keeping it in good shape, and im not having anything special running besides Logic.
But - you guys are right - im using a virtual midi keyboard with MIDI Yoke. Logic is taking something like 50-80 percent of CPU usasge when im doing nothing!
So, the problem is the MIDI Yoke?

Sako · Apr 7, 2004, 11:38 PM

Ok, i've uninstalled the MIDI Yoke drivers and Logic worked perfectly!

Anyway, i want to know - how can i use a virtual midi port and logic? What is the solution? Thanks!

**dj_stick** · Apr 8, 2004, 02:30 AM

try using midi yoke with the lowest number of virtual midi required… that will release the resources that would otherwise be wasted

TheKezmiester · Apr 8, 2004, 10:55 AM

hmmm.. I've been trying to figure that one out for a while. Anyone know how to use virtual midi ports with logic on XP?

Hubi's works with logic but not with XP
Midyoke works with XP but freezes logic..
=pain in th a***

miguel · Apr 8, 2004, 01:26 PM

One trick is to disable auto synchonization (accessible from the playback panel) in logic then save the song as autoload.lso in logic's install folder.

The other which i think is more usefull is to tell logic what ports not to grab. On C:\windows\win.ini there is a logic section. It enumerates the computer's midi in and out ports. I think if its equals 1 the port is used, if it equals 7 it is not. So if you have, say midi yoke 4 out enabled, dont enable midi yoke 4 in or logic will feedback

Sako · Apr 8, 2004, 02:20 PM

Thanks for the help!

Anyway, Miguel, i tried the second trick and it did'nt work out. I even tried to block all of the midi ports there.. Still nothing. I find it a better solution, because the first one isn't really a solution .. It's like running away from the problem. Heh. Anyway, thanks.
But, someone got another idea? Maybe i did something wrong?
Oh, oh, by the way! How can i configure MIDI Yoke to have only in midi port in and one out? By Default, it's making 8 ports. But, how can i change it to 1? when im going to the driver settings, i can't change it - the field is for reading only. I can change it by editing the registry?

miguel · Apr 8, 2004, 02:28 PM

i think it's 8 ports hardcoded for the nt/2000/xp version

miguel · Apr 8, 2004, 02:29 PM

I think it's 8 ports hardcoded for the nt/2000/xp version.

the win.ini trick should work.

Sako · Apr 8, 2004, 02:33 PM

And if i disable all of the in/out ports - it should work? (Just for testing - the tip did'nt help me. Dunno why.)

UPDATE: I disabled the ports using '0' and not '7' and it worked! But i still have little problems .. ehh.

miguel · Apr 8, 2004, 06:14 PM

ah great, thaks for the correction Sako

NightBreed · Apr 8, 2004, 07:01 PM

You can try the virtual midi ports by Maple Midi Tools @ http://www.marblesound.com/

Sako · Apr 8, 2004, 10:55 PM

Heh .. Things are working nice now with MIDI Yoke! Thanks all!

Apr 7, 2004, 02:21 AM	#1
Sako DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Logic is crawling .. I need some help. Hello, i have a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 with Kx drivers. I've installed Logic Audio 5.5.1 and i set the audio driver configurations correctly. I did what you guys recommended here, Minimum of inputs and outputs.. I did everything. But, Everytime i open logic - if i press on a menu, it takes about a minute to open, everything i do, from clicking a button or playing an instrument takes minutes. Hell, how did i open an instrument? It took me a long long time to do so. Anyway, someone know how to solve it? Logic is crawling, and its so slow that it's.. Not reacting! Someone have an idea what should i do to solve this problem? Thanks! My PC is: AMD Athlon XP 1800+ Gigabyte 7VRXP Rev 2.0 768MB DDR 333MHz Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 with KX Drivers Geforce4 Ti4200 Last edited by Sako; Apr 7, 2004 at 05:37 PM.

Apr 7, 2004, 03:02 AM	#2
Daniel Drummond DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,137 Rep Power: 0	check if you have some cpu cooling software enabled or another software which is taking up resources (check it with ctrl+alt+del). __________________ www.palcomp3.com.br/ed

Apr 7, 2004, 05:26 PM	Thread Starter #6
Sako DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Guys, my HDD (Maxtor 80GB 7200RPM) is working great and im keeping it in good shape, and im not having anything special running besides Logic. But - you guys are right - im using a virtual midi keyboard with MIDI Yoke. Logic is taking something like 50-80 percent of CPU usasge when im doing nothing! So, the problem is the MIDI Yoke? Last edited by Sako; Apr 7, 2004 at 05:33 PM.

Apr 8, 2004, 10:55 AM	#9
TheKezmiester DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	Midi yoke hmmm.. I've been trying to figure that one out for a while. Anyone know how to use virtual midi ports with logic on XP? Hubi's works with logic but not with XP Midyoke works with XP but freezes logic.. =pain in th a***

Apr 8, 2004, 01:26 PM	#10
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	One trick is to disable auto synchonization (accessible from the playback panel) in logic then save the song as autoload.lso in logic's install folder. The other which i think is more usefull is to tell logic what ports not to grab. On C:\windows\win.ini there is a logic section. It enumerates the computer's midi in and out ports. I think if its equals 1 the port is used, if it equals 7 it is not. So if you have, say midi yoke 4 out enabled, dont enable midi yoke 4 in or logic will feedback Last edited by miguel; Apr 8, 2004 at 01:31 PM.

Apr 7, 2004, 03:11 AM	#3
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	any virtual midi ports?

Apr 7, 2004, 04:49 PM	#5
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	to me it looks more like some midi feedback... check cpu usage with task manager

Apr 7, 2004, 11:38 PM	Thread Starter #7
Sako DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Ok, i've uninstalled the MIDI Yoke drivers and Logic worked perfectly! Anyway, i want to know - how can i use a virtual midi port and logic? What is the solution? Thanks!

Apr 8, 2004, 02:20 PM	Thread Starter #11
Sako DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the help! Anyway, Miguel, i tried the second trick and it did'nt work out. I even tried to block all of the midi ports there.. Still nothing. I find it a better solution, because the first one isn't really a solution .. It's like running away from the problem. Heh. Anyway, thanks. But, someone got another idea? Maybe i did something wrong? Oh, oh, by the way! How can i configure MIDI Yoke to have only in midi port in and one out? By Default, it's making 8 ports. But, how can i change it to 1? when im going to the driver settings, i can't change it - the field is for reading only. I can change it by editing the registry? Last edited by Sako; Apr 8, 2004 at 02:26 PM.

Apr 8, 2004, 02:28 PM	#12
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	i think it's 8 ports hardcoded for the nt/2000/xp version

Apr 8, 2004, 02:29 PM	#13
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	I think it's 8 ports hardcoded for the nt/2000/xp version. the win.ini trick should work.

Apr 8, 2004, 02:33 PM	Thread Starter #14
Sako DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	And if i disable all of the in/out ports - it should work? (Just for testing - the tip did'nt help me. Dunno why.) UPDATE: I disabled the ports using '0' and not '7' and it worked! But i still have little problems .. ehh. Last edited by Sako; Apr 8, 2004 at 02:50 PM.

Apr 8, 2004, 06:14 PM	#15
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	ah great, thaks for the correction Sako

Apr 8, 2004, 07:01 PM	#16
NightBreed DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 380 Rep Power: 0	You can try the virtual midi ports by Maple Midi Tools @ http://www.marblesound.com/

Apr 8, 2004, 10:55 PM	Thread Starter #17
Sako DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Heh .. Things are working nice now with MIDI Yoke! Thanks all!