Anyone used the official Emu APS XP drivers ?

swayzak · Jun 5, 2004, 08:24 PM

hi

Has anyone used these with their APS ? Do they work OK ?

cheers

swayzak

The_neo · Jun 5, 2004, 09:02 PM

hi!!!!
i have used those EMU drivers on my SBlive 5.1.....they works fine ....sound comes mainly frm center speaker....sound is very crispy....but, i found out there r some glitches in sound( sometimes)....

//The_neo

swayzak · Jun 5, 2004, 11:48 PM

Well I've resurrected my APS on a 2nd PC with these drivers (I'm afraid I never could get the hang of the kx drivers

).

So far seem to work fine.

Could be life in the old dog yet !

swayzak

**dj_stick** · Jun 6, 2004, 12:54 AM

what troubles are you having with kX?

swayzak · Jun 6, 2004, 09:31 AM

I just found them a bit "unfriendly" (but obviously very powerful) compared to the original Emu drivers.

**dj_stick** · Jun 6, 2004, 09:34 AM

have you tried the getting started guide? if you have time also read the kX helpfile, it is very useful on understanding how to use kX

miguel · Jun 6, 2004, 11:08 PM

my APS had much worse specs in RMMA with these drivers than kX.

mrvomit · Jun 7, 2004, 12:11 AM

i had used aps in win2k..

PROS: faster loading .sf2, possibilty to load Vienna sf2 editor AT THE SAME TIME with a SEQUENCER ("cakewalk pro audio") program(usually vienna doesn't start if you hacve already a sequencer running)
...crispe rsound

CONS:MIXER aps did'nt work at all, NO ASSISTANCE AT ALL from EMU people about divers,problems and so on..(HERe INSTEADon kx , is the paradise of the info about)

,sound for mee iscrisp,baut "TOO crisp", it loses the "DIRTY FAt way"on electrical guitars .distorted guitars recorded with old creative were better "evil-rocky" sounding than aps new (1.6 version ,and i think its still the same version around,or it is a newer out?)

OT:
i'm counting-down the day as i want to try Kx ,til now i rated Kx to all my friends th have winXP, and EVERYONE is super happy with low latencies results

swayzak · Jun 7, 2004, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by miguel
my APS had much worse specs in RMMA with these drivers than kX.

Sorry for being thick but what's RMMA ?

Quote:

i had used aps in win2k..

PROS: faster loading .sf2, possibilty to load Vienna sf2 editor AT THE SAME TIME with a SEQUENCER ("cakewalk pro audio") program(usually vienna doesn't start if you hacve already a sequencer running)
...crispe rsound

CONS:MIXER aps did'nt work at all, NO ASSISTANCE AT ALL from EMU people about divers,problems and so on..(HERe INSTEADon kx , is the paradise of the info about)

,sound for mee iscrisp,baut "TOO crisp", it loses the "DIRTY FAt way"on electrical guitars .distorted guitars recorded with old creative were better "evil-rocky" sounding than aps new (1.6 version ,and i think its still the same version around,or it is a newer out?)

OT:
i'm counting-down the day as i want to try Kx ,til now i rated Kx to all my friends th have winXP, and EVERYONE is super happy with low latencies results

I have only messed about abit with it - seems to work fine for Midi synths/effects.

I won't be using it as an audio card - just a soundfont player with onboard effects. What are the mixer problems ?

Actually the reason I didn't adopt the kx drivers was that sf2.1 implementation (with CC realtime control of filter cutoff, lfo's etc.) didn't seem to be a high priority.

Also the 1.5 drivers in win 9x, although somewhat limited, were rock solid and easy to use.

I did try the kx drivers a few times but I seemed to spend most of the time in various states of confusion (instead of making music

)

The focus definitely seemed to be on the audio side.

That was a while ago though - maybe things have changed ?

Would I get exactly the same or better sf2.1 implementation with the kx drivers (vs 1.6 official) ?

cheers

swayzak

**dj_stick** · Jun 7, 2004, 09:13 AM

RMAA is Rightmark Audio Analyzer, it checks variouse quality settings

fvi · Jun 7, 2004, 10:59 AM

hi all,

With my APS, I used Creative1.5 on Win98se, 1.6 on xp, Kx since 3510 on 98se and xp.
Kx is simply more powerfull, reliable, stable, because, and that's the point, there is a real community wanting to improve this software : team developpement, forum, users...

swayzak · Jun 7, 2004, 11:12 AM

...but does kx fully support sf2.1 (with extra controllable parameters vs sf2.0) ?

miguel · Jun 7, 2004, 11:25 AM

swayzak, I think many of use use software samplers these days. It's not an answer, I know, but maybe an explanation.

Regarding RMMA, I remember the most noticeable difference was noise, with around -94dB for kX and -87dB (maybe worse) for emu drivers. Anyway I could hear something wrong in the recorded material, some kind of distortion. Oh and I couldn't hear kernel streaming interface audio.

swayzak · Jun 7, 2004, 12:22 PM

Then I guess for my purposes (e.g. APS = DSP sampler with effects)the Emu 1.6 drivers are preferential to kx.

I have software samplers/romplers as well (giga, kontakt etc.) - just didn't want my APS to end up in the bin as I still think the sf2.1 format is still useful (especially with the onboard effects)

Thanks for all the advice (seems alot busier on here than it was a year or 2 ago !).

swayzak

mrvomit · Jun 9, 2004, 04:16 PM

Quote:

I won't be using it as an audio card - just a soundfont player with onboard effects. What are the mixer problems ?

it did'nt load, when tried to load, mixer told me was a conflict..the strange ?

EMU huide -installation tells you to Install APS-driver AFTER CREATIVE drivers,INSTEAD to get rid of them ,and then to install aps,so it's natural a conflict,but if i don install creative before,it get even worse

Jun 5, 2004, 08:24 PM	#1
swayzak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Anyone used the official Emu APS XP drivers ? hi Has anyone used these with their APS ? Do they work OK ? cheers swayzak

Jun 7, 2004, 12:11 AM	#8
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	i had used aps in win2k.. PROS: faster loading .sf2, possibilty to load Vienna sf2 editor AT THE SAME TIME with a SEQUENCER ("cakewalk pro audio") program(usually vienna doesn't start if you hacve already a sequencer running) ...crispe rsound CONS:MIXER aps did'nt work at all, NO ASSISTANCE AT ALL from EMU people about divers,problems and so on..(HERe INSTEADon kx , is the paradise of the info about) ,sound for mee iscrisp,baut "TOO crisp", it loses the "DIRTY FAt way"on electrical guitars .distorted guitars recorded with old creative were better "evil-rocky" sounding than aps new (1.6 version ,and i think its still the same version around,or it is a newer out?) OT: i'm counting-down the day as i want to try Kx ,til now i rated Kx to all my friends th have winXP, and EVERYONE is super happy with low latencies results __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jun 5, 2004, 09:02 PM	#2
The_neo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: india Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	hi!!!! i have used those EMU drivers on my SBlive 5.1.....they works fine ....sound comes mainly frm center speaker....sound is very crispy....but, i found out there r some glitches in sound( sometimes).... //The_neo

Jun 5, 2004, 11:48 PM	Thread Starter #3
swayzak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Well I've resurrected my APS on a 2nd PC with these drivers (I'm afraid I never could get the hang of the kx drivers ). So far seem to work fine. Could be life in the old dog yet ! swayzak

Jun 6, 2004, 09:31 AM	Thread Starter #5
swayzak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	I just found them a bit "unfriendly" (but obviously very powerful) compared to the original Emu drivers.

Jun 6, 2004, 11:08 PM	#7
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	my APS had much worse specs in RMMA with these drivers than kX.

Jun 7, 2004, 10:59 AM	#11
fvi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 48 Rep Power: 0	hi all, With my APS, I used Creative1.5 on Win98se, 1.6 on xp, Kx since 3510 on 98se and xp. Kx is simply more powerfull, reliable, stable, because, and that's the point, there is a real community wanting to improve this software : team developpement, forum, users...

Jun 7, 2004, 11:12 AM	Thread Starter #12
swayzak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	...but does kx fully support sf2.1 (with extra controllable parameters vs sf2.0) ?

Jun 7, 2004, 11:25 AM	#13
miguel DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 209 Rep Power: 0	swayzak, I think many of use use software samplers these days. It's not an answer, I know, but maybe an explanation. Regarding RMMA, I remember the most noticeable difference was noise, with around -94dB for kX and -87dB (maybe worse) for emu drivers. Anyway I could hear something wrong in the recorded material, some kind of distortion. Oh and I couldn't hear kernel streaming interface audio.

Jun 7, 2004, 12:22 PM	Thread Starter #14
swayzak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Then I guess for my purposes (e.g. APS = DSP sampler with effects)the Emu 1.6 drivers are preferential to kx. I have software samplers/romplers as well (giga, kontakt etc.) - just didn't want my APS to end up in the bin as I still think the sf2.1 format is still useful (especially with the onboard effects) Thanks for all the advice (seems alot busier on here than it was a year or 2 ago !). swayzak