Multiple Cards-XP/2K-no ASIO

Toadly_Ossum · Jul 26, 2004, 05:50 PM

If youve follow my other thread > http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=51440
you know that I succesfully configured 6 mono inputs using 3 cards:SB0090 Audigy, SB0100 Live, CT4620 Live running Windows XP Pro with both KX3537 and KX3538a.

My PC is Pentium4 3Ghz (hyperthreading disabled) with 1 GB ram.

The cards and the drivers seem to be working fine. However im not %100 satified with the performance of XP. Some of the songs (that are heavy with VSTI) I had recorded on the same PC with Win2K and 1 sound card running KX3537 seem to drag the CPU down in XP. This was a clean XP install and Ive performed many XP tweaks including disabling ACPI and assuring no IRQ conflicts.

At this point I decided to go back with Win2K. Installed Win2K on second HDD(all drivers and windows updates). KX driver 3537 loaded on all 3 cards, Set audio control panel settings to Playback Audigy 10k2 0/1 - 5.1 speakers, Recording Audigy 10K2 0/1 - Acceleration Full. performed KX reset global and hardware.
The mixers for each card load fine and i can check all my levels (line ins sent to spdif outs to audigys spdif ins all test ok just like in my XP install) HOWEVER the ASIO control panel will not open!

Any clue on what steps to take next? If i could get XP glitch free Id be happy. Id be happier to get it all working in Win2K (i have a personal preference for Win2K, Its worked as my Live stage VSTack VSTi host and In my Cubase setup on this PC well for 2 years)

Thanks
Toad

Nappylady · Jul 26, 2004, 11:49 PM

The first thing I'd suggest is to check in the Sounds and Multimedia control panel, and make sure you have acceleration *on all 3 cards* set to "full" and samplerate conversion to "best". It's easy to forget that all the cards have to be set this way...

If this isn't the problem, I don't know what else to suggest... but good luck.

FYI--I'm using Win2K with SB0100, and 2x SB0220 cards for 6 mono ins... it's so nice to have 6 inputs

Toadly_Ossum · Jul 27, 2004, 12:45 AM

thanks so much Nappylady!

That was it! Now I have a good days worth of loading software and restoring my backed up work.

I had everything setup in XP but couldnt pin down why I was getting a sound glitch every minute or so.

Mind if I ask you a few questions about your setup?

CPU and Ram?

What IRQs are you cards on and is anything else sharing?

Did you do anything about ACPI to achieve the best IRQ settings?

Any other Tweaks you recommend?

Thanks a BOATLOAD Nappylady

Toad

Nappylady · Jul 27, 2004, 08:08 AM

My machine is built on the MSI KT4AV motherboard (6 PCI slots! Yay!) with a Duron 1300 and 512 MB of RAM. I haven't turned ACPI off; I just install Win2K fresh and play with which card goes in which slot until they all work. With this motherboard, it worked the first time. I believe they all have IRQs in the 16-19 range. *EEK*

The bad news is that kX seems to have some kind of limit of 3 cards per machine... I could get Windows device manager to see 4, but kX wouldn't address all of them.

The SPDIFs are chained in the usual way... the two SB0220's feed into the SB0102, to total 6 channels in. My SNR is about 70dB on each channel, which sucks, but with a noise gate, it's not hard to get decent recordings.

The system is tied into my studly Eurorack MX2642 mixer with 8 mono and 4 stereo channels. My idea is that, using the insert points on the mixer's mono channels, going into the computer and then back out at the insert point, I have the perfect setup for live sound, recording... whatever really. With about 90GB free hard drive space (over 300GB total in the computer, most of it's tied up in various things) I can record 6 channels continuously for about a week :-) I can hardly wait to start using it.... my friend with the amazing voice wants to make an album...

Other tweaks I reccommend?

Use a noise gate on each of the input channels... set it so it cuts out maybe 1-2dB above your noisefloor, and make sure the attack and hold and release sliders are set to 0, or it won't work right...

Learn about gain structure and get as much SNR as you can get with your setup... you will need every dB you can get.

In your DSP window, use the ProFX plugins for all your routings... set it up so your input paths and output paths don't connect in any way. This will save you feedback and heartache...

Also, if you get the chance, and if you're using a mixer, experiment with setting up your Audigy as an effects box... it's so nice to be able to just twiddle a knob and have reverb on somoene's voice...

And as always, if you have further questions, I lurk around here a LOT so don't hesidate!

Nappylady · Jul 27, 2004, 06:23 PM

Toad, I have one more question for ya...

I'd really like to get my input count up to 8, but AFAICT, in order to do that, I'll have to gat an Audigy card. The Soundblaster Live!'s I'm using have, theoretically, 3 SPDIF inputs, but I can only get 2 of them to work. (The pin for Zvideo doesn't seem to do anything.)

Can you check, in your Audigy, and see how many functional SPDIF inputs you can find? 'Cos if you can find 3 working SPDIF inputs, I'm gonna run to the computer store and buy me an audigy so I can have 8 mono ins

**dj_stick** · Jul 27, 2004, 09:58 PM

Nappy lady, with an audigy and 2 lives you can still get the full 8 mono ins
Read Here

Toadly_Ossum · Jul 27, 2004, 10:05 PM

Actually im thinking of doing the same thing. Im not sure how many total spdifs ins are on my audio. But im setting here looking and I have 2 free PCI slots and 2 more SB live cards

1 audigy and 4 lives think its possible?

Im still installing and tweaking for my main purpose which is live/stage use as a VSTi synth rack. My band is taken a couple month break so Im reloading my PC and testing different setups.

Ive run into another problem with the 3 cards now, each KX card creates a midi control in/out midi device for automation that should show up in Midi OX. They are all there except the Audigy's control. which means I cant control my DSP effects and levels for my Audigy.

Toad

**dj_stick** · Jul 27, 2004, 10:31 PM

the audigy card only has 3 s/pdif inputs… you could use travelrec's s/pdif - i2s converter
but have a look atthe guide i linked to - cheap way to get two mono inputs

Toadly_Ossum · Jul 28, 2004, 12:14 AM

DJ Stick

Sorry for being such a newbie but,

Are you saying that the CD_IN/AUX_IN on the audigy

connector pin assignments

Pin Description I/O
1 Left Channel In white
2 Ground -
3 Ground -
4 Right Channel In red

is a seperate and descrete routable analog input from the line/mic that comes thru ac97 ?
I thought the audigy was like the Live in that all the analog inputs came in thru AC97 which meant only 1 stereo pair that could be routed to ASIO.

Ive not had the Audigy long and I bought it used but. it has 4 mono analog inputs? you mean I could have just made a L/R jack and connect it directly to the CD_IN/AUX_IN on the audigy, and use the line in jack on the back of the card seperately?

Toad

TravelRec. · Jul 28, 2004, 07:01 AM

No, not really:

AC97 mixes all analog sources into one stereo pair. So you can also record only this pair (selectable) into one audio track. Audigy cards can do a trick with routing the line in to an onboard separate ADC, connected with I2S#1 (Line in 2); this is an extra recordable input. You have to switch the line in via kxctrl.exe . DJ stick has all the hints here !

Greetings!

TravelRec.

Nappylady · Jul 28, 2004, 07:47 AM

Wait a minute... so the Audigy (BTW--I've never had an Audigy before, only Live's) really has 2 ADCs on it, so I can get 4 channels in with one audigy card?

And on top of that, it has 3 SPDIF inputs on the card? So with 2 Audigys and 1 Live (3 cards total, which seems to be the limit of kX) I could theoretically get 10 channels in at the same time, without any hardware modifications?

Or, does it just have 2 working SPDIF inputs, and the 2 ADC's and thus I get 8 channels in without any hardware modifications?

This is sounding better and better all the time...

TravelRec. · Jul 28, 2004, 08:01 AM

>>>Wait a minute... so the Audigy (BTW--I've never had an Audigy before, only Live's) really has 2 ADCs onit, so I can get 4 channels in with one audigy card?

Yes, that´s right - it´s written more than one time in dj_stick´s and my threads about modification.

>>>And on top of that, it has 3 SPDIF inputs on the card? So with 2 Audigys and 1 Live (3 cards total, which seems to be the limit of kX) I could theoretically get 10 channels in at the same time, without any hardware modifications?

Yes, quite correct. Be sure you have enough PCI slots and a big power supply

.

>>>Or, does it just have 2 working SPDIF inputs, and the 2 ADC's and thus I get 8 channels in without any hardware modifications?

No, Audigy1 cards have 3 working SPDIFs and 3 I2S inputs (one I2S is the second ADC), so with some mods you have 14 separate recordable inputs on one Audigy1 card (it runs here!)!
I recommend Audigy1 cards, if you can buy them used; they are really easy to handle and have the most open ports.

Greetings!

TravelRec.

Nappylady · Jul 28, 2004, 08:55 AM

Excellent!!!

Now, the question is: how do I know if the card I'm looking at is the right one or not? How do I know that it will have both ADCs working *and* the 3 SPDIF inputs?

DJ, Travelrec, Toad... you guys are total studs :-)

Here's the card I'm looking at... I can look at this card in person before buying it--what should I look for?

http://www.lsmicro.com/index.php?do=...&pn=SNDBLSTAUD

TravelRec. · Jul 29, 2004, 06:53 AM

Hi Nappy!

Ask the dealer for model number: if it´s SB0090 or SB0092 then it´s the right one. If you can take a look for yourself, search for 40 pole AUD_EXT connector (not AD_EXT!!!) and for Philips UDA xxxx IC in the middle of the card. Finally, it seems this offer (link) is for Audigy1, ´cause 100db/24bits is exactly that slogan from creatives retail box

.

Greetings!

TravelRec.

Nappylady · Jul 29, 2004, 07:10 AM

Excellent, thanx for the info... I hope to be able to buy one within the next 2 days. I'll let you know how it goes.

Toadly_Ossum · Jul 29, 2004, 06:38 PM

Well ive had the 3 cards (6 mono inputs) working in both Win XP and 2K. Im still having audio pops and glitches that i cannot pinpoint. Im pretty sure Ive correctly installed and tweaked both operating systems. At this point im beging to think one of my cards is at fault.

Toad

Nappylady · Jul 30, 2004, 06:32 AM

Popping and clicking... that makes me sad to hear.

What motherboard are you using?
What multitrack application are you using?
Are the clicks and pops in just some channels or in all the channels?
If they're in more than one channel, do they happen always at the same time (in sync?) or at random?

Is it maybe a broken cable?

TravelRec. · Jul 30, 2004, 06:34 AM

Hi!

You could check this by removing 2 of the cards and then test every single card - maybe you´ll find the bad one (if this really is the problem).

Greetings!

TravelRec.

Doug W · Jul 30, 2004, 06:43 AM

Toad,

I had pops and clicks, then just adjusted my latency upward until they disappeared. Have you tweaked the latency in the ASIO control panel yet?

Doug

Toadly_Ossum · Jul 31, 2004, 07:25 PM

Hi again folks

Right now im as close as ive been, running 2 lives (just unsure about the state of the audigy since it was used im leaving it out for now, but still poping but less)
Intel (forget the model right now) 800 mghz frontside
P4 3GHz (with hyperthreading DISABLED KX support not confirmed yet?)
2 GB DDR400 ram (running in Dual Mode)
Using onboard video but have tested with a ATI Radeon 64mb AGP
Disabled all onboard stuff like sound/lan/printer and serial ports

The HDD arent new, 40 GB Maxtor and 20 GB Western Digital , might try a new HDD for testing soon any thoughts on Serial ATA drive? my MB supports them.

--
Im using Cubase SX2

The clicks and pops are definately synced on all channels and affect my VST too
Im allmost positive now that its not in the cards but a CPU/RAM/HDD Resource related problem.
All goes smooth for a minute at a time and then BAM a big bottle neck happens for just a second. It stutters for a second or maybe 2 seconds if its a bad one, then continues smoothly.
It happens during playback too.

KX ASIO latency is set to 5.33 which ive used with 1 card in this same PC (before reloading OS) for a long time with zero problems. I cant afford to set the latency any higher. I need near realtime response for I use the VSTI on stage in my band.

The cards and cables all test fine with single cards installed, though ive had very small bottleneck sounding glitches with one card.

well im still testing and trouble shooting, I my have "tweaked" myself into a corner with the OS, and my next try reloading on a newer HDD, again should I go SATA?

Thanks guys
Toad

Nappylady · Jul 31, 2004, 07:36 PM

Yes, try SATA...

Also, try using Cubase SX 1.06... I used SX 2 for about a day before deciding it was rubbish.

Also try increasing your latency... you're pulling in twice as much data, so don't think you'll be able to do it on the same latency.

**dj_stick** · Jul 31, 2004, 10:32 PM

one thing with SATA/RAID chips… unless the motherboard was designed for use with them (such as the newer nFroce chipsets and newer intel chipsets) these controllers may be attached to the PCI bus… which can affect your latency in ASIO

Spielfreek · Feb 14, 2005, 11:34 AM

14 separate channels - Having read some of the threads I don't see how to set this up. I guess the inputs are:
2 line in to the second ADC,
2 Aux/CD in using 'normal' ADC
2 Line2/Mic
2 Aux2
From 2nd Audigy1 card, 2 using SPDIF1, 2 using SPDIF2, and 2 using SPDIF3
How the heck do you configure all this lot? Please help!

Jul 28, 2004, 07:01 AM	#10
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	No, not really: AC97 mixes all analog sources into one stereo pair. So you can also record only this pair (selectable) into one audio track. Audigy cards can do a trick with routing the line in to an onboard separate ADC, connected with I2S#1 (Line in 2); this is an extra recordable input. You have to switch the line in via kxctrl.exe . DJ stick has all the hints here ! Greetings! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 28, 2004, 08:01 AM	#12
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	>>>Wait a minute... so the Audigy (BTW--I've never had an Audigy before, only Live's) really has 2 ADCs onit, so I can get 4 channels in with one audigy card? Yes, that´s right - it´s written more than one time in dj_stick´s and my threads about modification. >>>And on top of that, it has 3 SPDIF inputs on the card? So with 2 Audigys and 1 Live (3 cards total, which seems to be the limit of kX) I could theoretically get 10 channels in at the same time, without any hardware modifications? Yes, quite correct. Be sure you have enough PCI slots and a big power supply . >>>Or, does it just have 2 working SPDIF inputs, and the 2 ADC's and thus I get 8 channels in without any hardware modifications? No, Audigy1 cards have 3 working SPDIFs and 3 I2S inputs (one I2S is the second ADC), so with some mods you have 14 separate recordable inputs on one Audigy1 card (it runs here!)! I recommend Audigy1 cards, if you can buy them used; they are really easy to handle and have the most open ports. Greetings! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 29, 2004, 06:53 AM	#14
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi Nappy! Ask the dealer for model number: if it´s SB0090 or SB0092 then it´s the right one. If you can take a look for yourself, search for 40 pole AUD_EXT connector (not AD_EXT!!!) and for Philips UDA xxxx IC in the middle of the card. Finally, it seems this offer (link) is for Audigy1, ´cause 100db/24bits is exactly that slogan from creatives retail box . Greetings! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 30, 2004, 06:34 AM	#18
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi! You could check this by removing 2 of the cards and then test every single card - maybe you´ll find the bad one (if this really is the problem). Greetings! TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Jul 26, 2004, 05:50 PM	#1
Toadly_Ossum DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	Multiple Cards-XP/2K-no ASIO If youve follow my other thread > http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=51440 you know that I succesfully configured 6 mono inputs using 3 cards:SB0090 Audigy, SB0100 Live, CT4620 Live running Windows XP Pro with both KX3537 and KX3538a. My PC is Pentium4 3Ghz (hyperthreading disabled) with 1 GB ram. The cards and the drivers seem to be working fine. However im not %100 satified with the performance of XP. Some of the songs (that are heavy with VSTI) I had recorded on the same PC with Win2K and 1 sound card running KX3537 seem to drag the CPU down in XP. This was a clean XP install and Ive performed many XP tweaks including disabling ACPI and assuring no IRQ conflicts. At this point I decided to go back with Win2K. Installed Win2K on second HDD(all drivers and windows updates). KX driver 3537 loaded on all 3 cards, Set audio control panel settings to Playback Audigy 10k2 0/1 - 5.1 speakers, Recording Audigy 10K2 0/1 - Acceleration Full. performed KX reset global and hardware. The mixers for each card load fine and i can check all my levels (line ins sent to spdif outs to audigys spdif ins all test ok just like in my XP install) HOWEVER the ASIO control panel will not open! Any clue on what steps to take next? If i could get XP glitch free Id be happy. Id be happier to get it all working in Win2K (i have a personal preference for Win2K, Its worked as my Live stage VSTack VSTi host and In my Cubase setup on this PC well for 2 years) Thanks Toad

Jul 26, 2004, 11:49 PM	#2
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	The first thing I'd suggest is to check in the Sounds and Multimedia control panel, and make sure you have acceleration on all 3 cards set to "full" and samplerate conversion to "best". It's easy to forget that all the cards have to be set this way... If this isn't the problem, I don't know what else to suggest... but good luck. FYI--I'm using Win2K with SB0100, and 2x SB0220 cards for 6 mono ins... it's so nice to have 6 inputs

Jul 27, 2004, 12:45 AM	Thread Starter #3
Toadly_Ossum DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	thanks so much Nappylady! That was it! Now I have a good days worth of loading software and restoring my backed up work. I had everything setup in XP but couldnt pin down why I was getting a sound glitch every minute or so. Mind if I ask you a few questions about your setup? CPU and Ram? What IRQs are you cards on and is anything else sharing? Did you do anything about ACPI to achieve the best IRQ settings? Any other Tweaks you recommend? Thanks a BOATLOAD Nappylady Toad

Jul 27, 2004, 08:08 AM	#4
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	My machine is built on the MSI KT4AV motherboard (6 PCI slots! Yay!) with a Duron 1300 and 512 MB of RAM. I haven't turned ACPI off; I just install Win2K fresh and play with which card goes in which slot until they all work. With this motherboard, it worked the first time. I believe they all have IRQs in the 16-19 range. EEK The bad news is that kX seems to have some kind of limit of 3 cards per machine... I could get Windows device manager to see 4, but kX wouldn't address all of them. The SPDIFs are chained in the usual way... the two SB0220's feed into the SB0102, to total 6 channels in. My SNR is about 70dB on each channel, which sucks, but with a noise gate, it's not hard to get decent recordings. The system is tied into my studly Eurorack MX2642 mixer with 8 mono and 4 stereo channels. My idea is that, using the insert points on the mixer's mono channels, going into the computer and then back out at the insert point, I have the perfect setup for live sound, recording... whatever really. With about 90GB free hard drive space (over 300GB total in the computer, most of it's tied up in various things) I can record 6 channels continuously for about a week :-) I can hardly wait to start using it.... my friend with the amazing voice wants to make an album... Other tweaks I reccommend? Use a noise gate on each of the input channels... set it so it cuts out maybe 1-2dB above your noisefloor, and make sure the attack and hold and release sliders are set to 0, or it won't work right... Learn about gain structure and get as much SNR as you can get with your setup... you will need every dB you can get. In your DSP window, use the ProFX plugins for all your routings... set it up so your input paths and output paths don't connect in any way. This will save you feedback and heartache... Also, if you get the chance, and if you're using a mixer, experiment with setting up your Audigy as an effects box... it's so nice to be able to just twiddle a knob and have reverb on somoene's voice... And as always, if you have further questions, I lurk around here a LOT so don't hesidate!

Jul 27, 2004, 06:23 PM	#5
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Toad, I have one more question for ya... I'd really like to get my input count up to 8, but AFAICT, in order to do that, I'll have to gat an Audigy card. The Soundblaster Live!'s I'm using have, theoretically, 3 SPDIF inputs, but I can only get 2 of them to work. (The pin for Zvideo doesn't seem to do anything.) Can you check, in your Audigy, and see how many functional SPDIF inputs you can find? 'Cos if you can find 3 working SPDIF inputs, I'm gonna run to the computer store and buy me an audigy so I can have 8 mono ins

Jul 27, 2004, 10:05 PM	Thread Starter #7
Toadly_Ossum DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	Actually im thinking of doing the same thing. Im not sure how many total spdifs ins are on my audio. But im setting here looking and I have 2 free PCI slots and 2 more SB live cards 1 audigy and 4 lives think its possible? Im still installing and tweaking for my main purpose which is live/stage use as a VSTi synth rack. My band is taken a couple month break so Im reloading my PC and testing different setups. Ive run into another problem with the 3 cards now, each KX card creates a midi control in/out midi device for automation that should show up in Midi OX. They are all there except the Audigy's control. which means I cant control my DSP effects and levels for my Audigy. Toad

Jul 28, 2004, 12:14 AM	Thread Starter #9
Toadly_Ossum DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	DJ Stick Sorry for being such a newbie but, Are you saying that the CD_IN/AUX_IN on the audigy connector pin assignments Pin Description I/O 1 Left Channel In white 2 Ground - 3 Ground - 4 Right Channel In red is a seperate and descrete routable analog input from the line/mic that comes thru ac97 ? I thought the audigy was like the Live in that all the analog inputs came in thru AC97 which meant only 1 stereo pair that could be routed to ASIO. Ive not had the Audigy long and I bought it used but. it has 4 mono analog inputs? you mean I could have just made a L/R jack and connect it directly to the CD_IN/AUX_IN on the audigy, and use the line in jack on the back of the card seperately? Toad

Jul 28, 2004, 07:47 AM	#11
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Wait a minute... so the Audigy (BTW--I've never had an Audigy before, only Live's) really has 2 ADCs on it, so I can get 4 channels in with one audigy card? And on top of that, it has 3 SPDIF inputs on the card? So with 2 Audigys and 1 Live (3 cards total, which seems to be the limit of kX) I could theoretically get 10 channels in at the same time, without any hardware modifications? Or, does it just have 2 working SPDIF inputs, and the 2 ADC's and thus I get 8 channels in without any hardware modifications? This is sounding better and better all the time...

Jul 28, 2004, 08:55 AM	#13
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Excellent!!! Now, the question is: how do I know if the card I'm looking at is the right one or not? How do I know that it will have both ADCs working and the 3 SPDIF inputs? DJ, Travelrec, Toad... you guys are total studs :-) Here's the card I'm looking at... I can look at this card in person before buying it--what should I look for? http://www.lsmicro.com/index.php?do=...&pn=SNDBLSTAUD

Jul 29, 2004, 07:10 AM	#15
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Excellent, thanx for the info... I hope to be able to buy one within the next 2 days. I'll let you know how it goes.

Jul 29, 2004, 06:38 PM	Thread Starter #16
Toadly_Ossum DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	Well ive had the 3 cards (6 mono inputs) working in both Win XP and 2K. Im still having audio pops and glitches that i cannot pinpoint. Im pretty sure Ive correctly installed and tweaked both operating systems. At this point im beging to think one of my cards is at fault. Toad

Jul 30, 2004, 06:32 AM	#17
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Popping and clicking... that makes me sad to hear. What motherboard are you using? What multitrack application are you using? Are the clicks and pops in just some channels or in all the channels? If they're in more than one channel, do they happen always at the same time (in sync?) or at random? Is it maybe a broken cable?

Jul 30, 2004, 06:43 AM	#19
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Toad, I had pops and clicks, then just adjusted my latency upward until they disappeared. Have you tweaked the latency in the ASIO control panel yet? Doug

Jul 31, 2004, 07:25 PM	Thread Starter #20
Toadly_Ossum DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 228 Rep Power: 0	Hi again folks Right now im as close as ive been, running 2 lives (just unsure about the state of the audigy since it was used im leaving it out for now, but still poping but less) Intel (forget the model right now) 800 mghz frontside P4 3GHz (with hyperthreading DISABLED KX support not confirmed yet?) 2 GB DDR400 ram (running in Dual Mode) Using onboard video but have tested with a ATI Radeon 64mb AGP Disabled all onboard stuff like sound/lan/printer and serial ports The HDD arent new, 40 GB Maxtor and 20 GB Western Digital , might try a new HDD for testing soon any thoughts on Serial ATA drive? my MB supports them. -- Im using Cubase SX2 The clicks and pops are definately synced on all channels and affect my VST too Im allmost positive now that its not in the cards but a CPU/RAM/HDD Resource related problem. All goes smooth for a minute at a time and then BAM a big bottle neck happens for just a second. It stutters for a second or maybe 2 seconds if its a bad one, then continues smoothly. It happens during playback too. KX ASIO latency is set to 5.33 which ive used with 1 card in this same PC (before reloading OS) for a long time with zero problems. I cant afford to set the latency any higher. I need near realtime response for I use the VSTI on stage in my band. The cards and cables all test fine with single cards installed, though ive had very small bottleneck sounding glitches with one card. well im still testing and trouble shooting, I my have "tweaked" myself into a corner with the OS, and my next try reloading on a newer HDD, again should I go SATA? Thanks guys Toad

Jul 31, 2004, 07:36 PM	#21
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Yes, try SATA... Also, try using Cubase SX 1.06... I used SX 2 for about a day before deciding it was rubbish. Also try increasing your latency... you're pulling in twice as much data, so don't think you'll be able to do it on the same latency.

Feb 14, 2005, 11:34 AM	#23
Spielfreek DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	14 separate channels - Having read some of the threads I don't see how to set this up. I guess the inputs are: 2 line in to the second ADC, 2 Aux/CD in using 'normal' ADC 2 Line2/Mic 2 Aux2 From 2nd Audigy1 card, 2 using SPDIF1, 2 using SPDIF2, and 2 using SPDIF3 How the heck do you configure all this lot? Please help!