Spectrum Analyzer in kX?

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 10:04 AM

EDIT: I suppose I should put up some sort of useage policy, all i ask is if you just download my file and use it, give some (a little) credit where credit is due

good call dj stick

(did you try the DSP's i posted?)
I now have the 3537's for everyone not using beta at the moment, please note that due to the API it will require serious CPU power to run the Analyzer (around 650-700 mhz of power)

UPDATED DSP ANALYZER'S! (3537 and 3538)

INFO:4th Order Crossovers- 3538- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-10 Band
http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3538...04%20Order. kx

INFO:2nd Order Crossovers- 3538- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-10 Band
http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3538...02%20Order. kx

THE 3537 ANALYZERS WILL REQUIRE MAX'S UFX PACK!
http://www.electricstart.de/plug/ufxsetup37.exe
NOTE: Also, due to limitations of the UFX crossover, you will only be able to split frequencies from 40 to 8000 hz

INFO:4th Order Crossovers- 3537- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-9 Band
http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3537%...204%20Order.kx

INFO:2nd Order Crossovers- 3537- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-9 Band
http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3537%...202%20Order.kx

ENJOY!

EDIT: looking back HunterZ had a question about where the cuts were, the crossovers are set to the frequecy they are labled to (it should be -3db on each one, due to my meathod of selecting frequencies to crossover on it should have each frequency in the default 10 Band EQ in the middle of each frequency range octave displayed (1/2*x)+x, x being the EQ frequency, then i just went an octave up from that (doubbled it) so starting with 31hz, i got the ranges of 0-46-93-187-375-750-1500-3000-6000-12000

NOTE: I have found some songs good demonstrations that this works, (they have good frequency variation and look really cool):
American Hi-Fi - Flavor of the Week (begining)
Nelly - Number One (begening, watch the 12000-20000 range)
Queen - We Will Rock You (you can see the stoms vs the claps)
Sum 41 - Fat Lip (begining)
THERE ARE PLENTY MORE TOO, look for something with lots of dynamic range

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 05:10 PM

Actually I piped the left over freq's from the last instance of the crossover to the 8000> peak instance this seems to work....

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 05:30 PM

I really should have started claculating the octaves (for the 3537 drivers from 8000 hz down i guess, it would have given a bit more bandwidth, maybe sometime ill do that) you should reall post your analyzer, or is it basically the one i made? What formula do you use to determine the crossover frequencies?

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 05:42 PM

Well, When I first stumbled on the thread..I was curious as to how it was made..then there was that screen shot..so I just went from that and the various notes that were posted..crossovers..I actually need to tweak them I think...well in the pic..say in the peakX(I use that)..for monitoring 40-80hZ..then I set then crossover to 80..because I was thinking that the previous crossover eliminated everything under that..then I just kept setting them like that..then at then end..as you said..the 8K limit..I just patched the outs of that one to the 8000 and above...seems to work....I couldn't play with it too much because it was late.. I am considering designing one for monitoring and tuning of Bass response..not sure if it's possible but I like trying things out... I did use your basic concept to grasp the basic concept, Now I guess I can add my personal touches to it. BTW..I use the peakX..I like the look..now I basicall unloaded all uneeded DSP reverb..chorus..etc..but I run out of resources when I use 4th order..so I just use 2nd order.. I have 10 instances of peak.. I am gonna experiment later and make a the Bass one..which will give me a good idea of what is going on with my Sub

Then I can tune it in precisley.......I have to say again though..nice idea..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 05:50 PM

so is your top frequency 8000 hz? 40-80-160-320-640-1280-2560-5120-***8000? (thats why i have a 9 band for the 3537's I could no longer go up by one octave once hitting 6000 hz

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 05:56 PM

no the top is sort of well...the last CrossX is set for 8000..but the low is attached to one peakX and the hi to the last...I know that would probaly make the last part of the anylyzer innacurate..but I threw it together fast.. as I said..this is my project for the day..I am bored I think I am just gonna make one for the sub...just anylyzing the Bass frequncies..so then I can tune my sub..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 06:25 PM

fyi, its gonna be tough to do it just for bass frequencies, atleast i would think it would be tough, take and run music through a 4th order and send it into the spec analyzer, (only send one channel, one peak side is high one is lows) if you get a good bass one id love to hear about it!

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 06:29 PM

would do you think would be a good range to try and analyze?..0 to 400hz? how high should it go?...well I think this general concept could work it just needs alittle rethinking...you'll hear about it seeing how the basic concept is yours..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 06:33 PM

well i think 400 hz is a good start; i also think the concept could work however if doing bass frequencies, it would probably be best for you to use 3538 (can split one octave lower than the UFX plugin

) anyway I will mess wit some of mine and see if i can get it to work on a more specific frequency range; maybe this is how we could take care of the accuracy thing that Tiger M was speaking of. 4th order crossover is the steepest slope i have seen with the plugins i have...

EDIT: my bad, the 3538 only go down to 40 hz also (but up to 20250)

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 06:44 PM

yah but isn't 400hz..a high starting point?...or did you mean go from say 0 to 400hz?...I was actually gonna do 35hz up to 400 as thats the cut off for my sub anyhow...but being able to see these frequncies that are under the subs range might be nice I am gonna check the spec for my speakers and find where the crossX is and see if I can analyze that.......38?....I am considering it

...but then I cannot use the UFX PeakX...oh well function is better than cosmetics

....I will do it in a bit...maybe together we can iron one out and tune it right, improve the accuracy....etc.. I have the day off so this will keep my day occupied..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 06:49 PM

remember that on 3537, u need a good 650-700mhz of cpu cycles set ASIDE to do this, 3538 you need a good 14-28mhz of cpu cycles

EDIT: yes, 400 is quite high 200 is high bass i feel to see much (with the crossover slopes) you need to probably use bigger vairiations. I'm going to make one from 40-200 hz i think, but calculate this way: 200-40=160/10=16 SO it will go 40-56-72-88-104-120 etc. (a linear scale) the problem is that with this crossover slope (4th order) it may not be precise enough to effectively do anything special...

NEW IDEA: what if we were to make it a mono analyzer, 5 peaks HOWEVER on lower range analyzers, we would run it through the left channel first, then the right before it goes to the next crossover (better eliminating frequency ranges)

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 07:00 PM

good point...I actually need to spend more time in the DSP..trying new things...I kinda got some inspiration...I am gonna do some research on analyzers...etc...see what I can come up with..also would using a few instances of peak6 be less taxing then individual peak modules?..I am aussuming it would.. I am trying to think of what other things can be made by piecing together modules..I kind of made a center delay tuning type module a it was cool added delayed signal with dry signal..giving a depth type sound while back maybe I'll start working with that again.. I need to polish up my DSP skills instead of just setting it and leaving it..I want to try and come up with some new ideas..for things..well stuff I haven't used yet..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 07:08 PM

read my edit on the one above your last post

the idea seems to have worked quite well however in "one direction" meaning if playing a 50hz tone, everything infront of that cuts of twice as fast (8th order i believe) but things behind that umm dont. any ideas?

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 07:17 PM

can try that....I want it to basically give me reasonably accurate idea of what the sub is doing...like if some freqs..are too high or low..then maybe could use a graphic or paramtric to dial it in a bit better..to give a smoother response..I'll do some research.... A mono one is better as sub channel is mono and it save us on GPR's..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 07:20 PM

what do you mean by what the sub is doing? are you going to record test tones and play them, then use a mic to pickup the frequency response of your subs? (fyi, mics usually dont have that great of bass response, in this range i think some good ones may work though.

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 07:29 PM

no,no I meant to get a "picture" as to what frequencies are high..or low...so as to tune it to get a nice smooth response....I think it'll take some work though to get it accurate...the anylzer when it's figure out properly coupled with an eq..and it can be used to trim your whole speaker response..not just the sub..but thats where I am gonna start.

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 07:53 PM

well i believe that the cards have pretty linear frequency response... check out travelrec's site, he has the stats on a sb0090, so without a **NEAR LINEAR RESPONSE** mic to measure your response on the speakers I dont see what it will really do

anyways, i believe i have a fairly good bass analyzer set up (3538) the numbers on the Peak's are where I found both of the outputs in that peak to have equal level. so if you play a 49 hz tone through the setup, the lowest peak will display both vaules at equal level. this gives us a good reference to figure out what range we are looking at.
http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3538%...trum%20Bass.kx

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 09:02 PM

ok..just installed..38..miss UFX..but the added improvments make me forget about it....I know the cards are relativley linear..I just want a spect analyzer also because it looks cool..but I want it to have function aswell..what do you use yours for?..also I cannot load these DSP patchs you link..I don't have an a2.....do You have a screen Shot....I can work from that..and if anything needs to be noted post it....I really appreciate your time...This is why the KX forum is one of the best

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 10:06 PM

so my links dont work or the dsp dont work? i dont think it should matter if its a2 or not... what do i use it for, dont know yet... it would be good to set reverbs and other effects where you want to see what frequencies you are getting through...

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 10:17 PM

I think your downloads will work fine..I think I am only getting the error because your use a 10K2..I use 10K1..it would matter....you use the A2..I have a live..different chips..other than that should work fine..

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 10:27 PM

ahhh so basically anyone who has less than an audigy (10k2) cannot use them... damn, maybe u can make the 10k1 versions

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 10:32 PM

Already did that....but give me a bit to refine as I just installed 38.....but when I get them done I will post them in the thread..I don't have hosting.

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 10:35 PM

http://www.1asphost.com/, the host i use, its free, 100 mb storate, 1 gb transfer i believe, good stuff

ROBSCIX · Dec 5, 2004, 10:47 PM

alright....I will do it in a bit.. I am just wondering if 10K2 users can use these setup from the 10K1's....so just to clarify your using the 2nd Order correct?..how are you settin the crossovers..say 40-80..your setting the cross over to 80?..I think thats correct...

Chester01 · Dec 5, 2004, 11:00 PM

I have set the crossovers at 46-93-187-375-750-1500-3000-6000-12000
I also use the 4th order but I have more DSP resources than you so whatever... I made both for people

ROBSCIX · Dec 6, 2004, 01:43 AM

I just patched one with 38..but it eats my resources.....who cares I can use it somwhere..

Dec 5, 2004, 10:04 AM	#31
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	EDIT: I suppose I should put up some sort of useage policy, all i ask is if you just download my file and use it, give some (a little) credit where credit is due good call dj stick (did you try the DSP's i posted?) I now have the 3537's for everyone not using beta at the moment, please note that due to the API it will require serious CPU power to run the Analyzer (around 650-700 mhz of power) UPDATED DSP ANALYZER'S! (3537 and 3538) INFO:4th Order Crossovers- 3538- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-10 Band http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3538...04%20Order. kx INFO:2nd Order Crossovers- 3538- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-10 Band http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3538...02%20Order. kx THE 3537 ANALYZERS WILL REQUIRE MAX'S UFX PACK! http://www.electricstart.de/plug/ufxsetup37.exe NOTE: Also, due to limitations of the UFX crossover, you will only be able to split frequencies from 40 to 8000 hz INFO:4th Order Crossovers- 3537- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-9 Band http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3537%...204%20Order.kx INFO:2nd Order Crossovers- 3537- Spectrum- Between EQ Frequency Splits-9 Band http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3537%...202%20Order.kx ENJOY! EDIT: looking back HunterZ had a question about where the cuts were, the crossovers are set to the frequecy they are labled to (it should be -3db on each one, due to my meathod of selecting frequencies to crossover on it should have each frequency in the default 10 Band EQ in the middle of each frequency range octave displayed (1/2x)+x, x being the EQ frequency, then i just went an octave up from that (doubbled it) so starting with 31hz, i got the ranges of 0-46-93-187-375-750-1500-3000-6000-12000 NOTE: I have found some songs good demonstrations that this works, (they have good frequency variation and look really cool): American Hi-Fi - Flavor of the Week (begining) Nelly - Number One (begening, watch the 12000-20000 range) Queen - We Will Rock You (you can see the stoms vs the claps) Sum 41 - Fat Lip (begining) THERE ARE PLENTY MORE TOO, look for something with lots of dynamic range __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands... Last edited by Chester01; Dec 5, 2004 at 05:27 PM.*

Dec 5, 2004, 05:30 PM	#33
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	I really should have started claculating the octaves (for the 3537 drivers from 8000 hz down i guess, it would have given a bit more bandwidth, maybe sometime ill do that) you should reall post your analyzer, or is it basically the one i made? What formula do you use to determine the crossover frequencies? __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 05:50 PM	#35
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	so is your top frequency 8000 hz? 40-80-160-320-640-1280-2560-5120-***8000? (thats why i have a 9 band for the 3537's I could no longer go up by one octave once hitting 6000 hz __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 06:25 PM	#37
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	fyi, its gonna be tough to do it just for bass frequencies, atleast i would think it would be tough, take and run music through a 4th order and send it into the spec analyzer, (only send one channel, one peak side is high one is lows) if you get a good bass one id love to hear about it! __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 06:33 PM	#39
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	well i think 400 hz is a good start; i also think the concept could work however if doing bass frequencies, it would probably be best for you to use 3538 (can split one octave lower than the UFX plugin ) anyway I will mess wit some of mine and see if i can get it to work on a more specific frequency range; maybe this is how we could take care of the accuracy thing that Tiger M was speaking of. 4th order crossover is the steepest slope i have seen with the plugins i have... EDIT: my bad, the 3538 only go down to 40 hz also (but up to 20250) __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 05:10 PM	#32
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Actually I piped the left over freq's from the last instance of the crossover to the 8000> peak instance this seems to work....

Dec 5, 2004, 05:42 PM	#34
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Well, When I first stumbled on the thread..I was curious as to how it was made..then there was that screen shot..so I just went from that and the various notes that were posted..crossovers..I actually need to tweak them I think...well in the pic..say in the peakX(I use that)..for monitoring 40-80hZ..then I set then crossover to 80..because I was thinking that the previous crossover eliminated everything under that..then I just kept setting them like that..then at then end..as you said..the 8K limit..I just patched the outs of that one to the 8000 and above...seems to work....I couldn't play with it too much because it was late.. I am considering designing one for monitoring and tuning of Bass response..not sure if it's possible but I like trying things out... I did use your basic concept to grasp the basic concept, Now I guess I can add my personal touches to it. BTW..I use the peakX..I like the look..now I basicall unloaded all uneeded DSP reverb..chorus..etc..but I run out of resources when I use 4th order..so I just use 2nd order.. I have 10 instances of peak.. I am gonna experiment later and make a the Bass one..which will give me a good idea of what is going on with my Sub Then I can tune it in precisley.......I have to say again though..nice idea..

Dec 5, 2004, 05:56 PM	#36
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	no the top is sort of well...the last CrossX is set for 8000..but the low is attached to one peakX and the hi to the last...I know that would probaly make the last part of the anylyzer innacurate..but I threw it together fast.. as I said..this is my project for the day..I am bored I think I am just gonna make one for the sub...just anylyzing the Bass frequncies..so then I can tune my sub..

Dec 5, 2004, 06:29 PM	#38
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	would do you think would be a good range to try and analyze?..0 to 400hz? how high should it go?...well I think this general concept could work it just needs alittle rethinking...you'll hear about it seeing how the basic concept is yours..

Dec 5, 2004, 06:44 PM	#40
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	yah but isn't 400hz..a high starting point?...or did you mean go from say 0 to 400hz?...I was actually gonna do 35hz up to 400 as thats the cut off for my sub anyhow...but being able to see these frequncies that are under the subs range might be nice I am gonna check the spec for my speakers and find where the crossX is and see if I can analyze that.......38?....I am considering it...but then I cannot use the UFX PeakX...oh well function is better than cosmetics....I will do it in a bit...maybe together we can iron one out and tune it right, improve the accuracy....etc.. I have the day off so this will keep my day occupied..

Dec 5, 2004, 06:49 PM	#41
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	remember that on 3537, u need a good 650-700mhz of cpu cycles set ASIDE to do this, 3538 you need a good 14-28mhz of cpu cycles EDIT: yes, 400 is quite high 200 is high bass i feel to see much (with the crossover slopes) you need to probably use bigger vairiations. I'm going to make one from 40-200 hz i think, but calculate this way: 200-40=160/10=16 SO it will go 40-56-72-88-104-120 etc. (a linear scale) the problem is that with this crossover slope (4th order) it may not be precise enough to effectively do anything special... NEW IDEA: what if we were to make it a mono analyzer, 5 peaks HOWEVER on lower range analyzers, we would run it through the left channel first, then the right before it goes to the next crossover (better eliminating frequency ranges) __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands... Last edited by Chester01; Dec 5, 2004 at 07:03 PM.

Dec 5, 2004, 07:00 PM	#42
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	good point...I actually need to spend more time in the DSP..trying new things...I kinda got some inspiration...I am gonna do some research on analyzers...etc...see what I can come up with..also would using a few instances of peak6 be less taxing then individual peak modules?..I am aussuming it would.. I am trying to think of what other things can be made by piecing together modules..I kind of made a center delay tuning type module a it was cool added delayed signal with dry signal..giving a depth type sound while back maybe I'll start working with that again.. I need to polish up my DSP skills instead of just setting it and leaving it..I want to try and come up with some new ideas..for things..well stuff I haven't used yet..

Dec 5, 2004, 07:08 PM	#43
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	read my edit on the one above your last post the idea seems to have worked quite well however in "one direction" meaning if playing a 50hz tone, everything infront of that cuts of twice as fast (8th order i believe) but things behind that umm dont. any ideas? __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands... Last edited by Chester01; Dec 5, 2004 at 07:19 PM.

Dec 5, 2004, 07:17 PM	#44
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	can try that....I want it to basically give me reasonably accurate idea of what the sub is doing...like if some freqs..are too high or low..then maybe could use a graphic or paramtric to dial it in a bit better..to give a smoother response..I'll do some research.... A mono one is better as sub channel is mono and it save us on GPR's..

Dec 5, 2004, 07:20 PM	#45
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	what do you mean by what the sub is doing? are you going to record test tones and play them, then use a mic to pickup the frequency response of your subs? (fyi, mics usually dont have that great of bass response, in this range i think some good ones may work though. __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 07:29 PM	#46
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	no,no I meant to get a "picture" as to what frequencies are high..or low...so as to tune it to get a nice smooth response....I think it'll take some work though to get it accurate...the anylzer when it's figure out properly coupled with an eq..and it can be used to trim your whole speaker response..not just the sub..but thats where I am gonna start.

Dec 5, 2004, 07:53 PM	#47
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	well i believe that the cards have pretty linear frequency response... check out travelrec's site, he has the stats on a sb0090, so without a NEAR LINEAR RESPONSE mic to measure your response on the speakers I dont see what it will really do anyways, i believe i have a fairly good bass analyzer set up (3538) the numbers on the Peak's are where I found both of the outputs in that peak to have equal level. so if you play a 49 hz tone through the setup, the lowest peak will display both vaules at equal level. this gives us a good reference to figure out what range we are looking at. http://n.1asphost.com/Chesteta/3538%...trum%20Bass.kx __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 09:02 PM	#48
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	ok..just installed..38..miss UFX..but the added improvments make me forget about it....I know the cards are relativley linear..I just want a spect analyzer also because it looks cool..but I want it to have function aswell..what do you use yours for?..also I cannot load these DSP patchs you link..I don't have an a2.....do You have a screen Shot....I can work from that..and if anything needs to be noted post it....I really appreciate your time...This is why the KX forum is one of the best

Dec 5, 2004, 10:06 PM	#49
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	so my links dont work or the dsp dont work? i dont think it should matter if its a2 or not... what do i use it for, dont know yet... it would be good to set reverbs and other effects where you want to see what frequencies you are getting through... __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 10:17 PM	#50
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I think your downloads will work fine..I think I am only getting the error because your use a 10K2..I use 10K1..it would matter....you use the A2..I have a live..different chips..other than that should work fine..

Dec 5, 2004, 10:27 PM	#51
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	ahhh so basically anyone who has less than an audigy (10k2) cannot use them... damn, maybe u can make the 10k1 versions __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 10:32 PM	#52
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Already did that....but give me a bit to refine as I just installed 38.....but when I get them done I will post them in the thread..I don't have hosting.

Dec 5, 2004, 10:35 PM	#53
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	http://www.1asphost.com/, the host i use, its free, 100 mb storate, 1 gb transfer i believe, good stuff __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 5, 2004, 10:47 PM	#54
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	alright....I will do it in a bit.. I am just wondering if 10K2 users can use these setup from the 10K1's....so just to clarify your using the 2nd Order correct?..how are you settin the crossovers..say 40-80..your setting the cross over to 80?..I think thats correct...

Dec 5, 2004, 11:00 PM	#55
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	I have set the crossovers at 46-93-187-375-750-1500-3000-6000-12000 I also use the 4th order but I have more DSP resources than you so whatever... I made both for people __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Dec 6, 2004, 01:43 AM	#56
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I just patched one with 38..but it eats my resources.....who cares I can use it somwhere..