Is Creative screwing up again?

JGSF · Sep 7, 2004, 12:30 PM

http://www.creative.com/products/pro...p?prodid=10653

Just found this new "Audigy 2 Value", it has no firewire nor the external Audigy drive bay connector... Also in the Creative store I can't find any version od the Audigy 2 that comes with the Audigy Drive Bay.

They're limiting the upgrades possibilities... bastards.

TravelRec. · Sep 8, 2004, 07:06 AM

Yeah,

this is another mainstream "brainless-user" card

(sorry guys, but we want to tweak everything and we need ALL possibilities), but it seems to be kX-compatible. Seems also, that CL just downgrades all current models to save some money ??!

... no wonder that there are so many confused people and once a week another card model

........ ... . ..

TravelRec.

TwistedMetal · Sep 8, 2004, 07:14 AM

Creative can't think of anything new and since they run the sound card market anyways. Why not come out with a stripped down version of another card, and make even more money...

TravelRec. · Sep 8, 2004, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedMetal

Why not come out with a stripped down version of another card, and make even more money...

Because this is not professional !!!

Greetings!

TravelRec.

ROBSCIX · Sep 10, 2004, 04:17 PM

You ever said Creative was professional..lol, Just as what is pointed out in my other thread about the SB Live! 24 bit....very new. I contacted Cre. Support to get specs to post for the forum....I was informed that they DO NOT have a 24 bit live...So once again I had to Send them a link to one of there own products...(Can't Believe that!) then they stated the card is only availabe in asia?...then why is it on creative.com and not there asia counter part? They are one weird company....

Sandok · Sep 10, 2004, 04:26 PM

And they're cards are great great... They are good, no doubt but way to mainstream...

pzad · Oct 22, 2004, 02:22 PM

Just for info. This new card has PCI ID 1102:0008. This means new pci id = new chip.

**dj_stick** · Oct 22, 2004, 11:25 PM

could be a new revision of the 10k2 chip, it looks similiar… it doesn't even have a gameport/midi port on it… i guess its alright for an OEM card

Chris Curtis · Oct 23, 2004, 01:34 AM

gaah, I guess I'd better upgrade to the ZX platinum soon, and feed the old 2 platinum card to my linux box! not that I have speakers hooked up to that at the current moment. My father and I have been Creative product users for eons, and find their product to be above most out there, but lately it seems as tho they have young, inexperienced interns running the show on the marketing/customer service end.

**dj_stick** · Oct 23, 2004, 01:39 AM

you won't get much gain upgrading to a zs plat… best bet if you do want to upgrade is just buy a ZS retail, and keep the platibum drive from your old audigy 2

Chris Curtis · Oct 23, 2004, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

you won't get much gain upgrading to a zs plat… best bet if you do want to upgrade is just buy a ZS retail, and keep the platibum drive from your old audigy 2

black full case = black bezel on i/o drive
keep the old drive on the old beige box

I should prolly upgrade to a set of Z-680s too while I'm at it

edit--- hee hee, wrong, I want the 5500's now

**dj_stick** · Oct 23, 2004, 02:43 AM

you can buy a replacement black bezel directly from CL

Chris Curtis · Oct 23, 2004, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

you can buy a replacement black bezel directly from CL

I see.... Well I guess if I want the Z-5500's, I prolly don't really need to worry about native 8 channel support, 6 channel is ok. Prolly not even the dts 96/24, since those speakers have hardware decoding of that. I don't really need to worry about dd ex, since I don't do anything or watch anything that has that. 5.1 is fine with me, I'm not a real hard core audiophile

**dj_stick** · Oct 23, 2004, 02:51 AM

you can use modded ZS drivers on your a2, if you really need the extra decoding, or use AC-3filter

Chris Curtis · Oct 23, 2004, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

you can use modded ZS drivers on your a2, if you really need the extra decoding, or use AC-3filter

:-D I happen to have (re)installed the AC3 decoder plugin for Winamp. Now, would the AC3Filter run better(and in realtime) with my hdtv tuner?

**dj_stick** · Oct 23, 2004, 03:03 AM

i don't know whether it would run "better", but afaik it is realtime

Chris Curtis · Oct 23, 2004, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

i don't know whether it would run "better", but afaik it is realtime

thx. should it pick right up on the spdif in?

Sep 7, 2004, 12:30 PM	#1
JGSF HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 0	Is Creative screwing up again? http://www.creative.com/products/pro...p?prodid=10653 Just found this new "Audigy 2 Value", it has no firewire nor the external Audigy drive bay connector... Also in the Creative store I can't find any version od the Audigy 2 that comes with the Audigy Drive Bay. They're limiting the upgrades possibilities... bastards.

Sep 8, 2004, 07:06 AM	#2
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, this is another mainstream "brainless-user" card (sorry guys, but we want to tweak everything and we need ALL possibilities), but it seems to be kX-compatible. Seems also, that CL just downgrades all current models to save some money ??! ... no wonder that there are so many confused people and once a week another card model ........ ... . .. TravelRec. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Sep 8, 2004, 07:14 AM	#3
TwistedMetal MC John-117 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 728 Rep Power: 0	Creative can't think of anything new and since they run the sound card market anyways. Why not come out with a stripped down version of another card, and make even more money... __________________ [color=red][/color]

Sep 10, 2004, 04:17 PM	#5
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	You ever said Creative was professional..lol, Just as what is pointed out in my other thread about the SB Live! 24 bit....very new. I contacted Cre. Support to get specs to post for the forum....I was informed that they DO NOT have a 24 bit live...So once again I had to Send them a link to one of there own products...(Can't Believe that!) then they stated the card is only availabe in asia?...then why is it on creative.com and not there asia counter part? They are one weird company....

Sep 10, 2004, 04:26 PM	#6
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	And they're cards are great great... They are good, no doubt but way to mainstream...

Oct 22, 2004, 02:22 PM	#7
pzad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Just for info. This new card has PCI ID 1102:0008. This means new pci id = new chip.

Oct 23, 2004, 01:34 AM	#9
Chris Curtis DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	gaah, I guess I'd better upgrade to the ZX platinum soon, and feed the old 2 platinum card to my linux box! not that I have speakers hooked up to that at the current moment. My father and I have been Creative product users for eons, and find their product to be above most out there, but lately it seems as tho they have young, inexperienced interns running the show on the marketing/customer service end.