Audigy 2 ZS NoteBook

pzad · Dec 17, 2004, 07:46 AM

Subsystem ID can be same, but PCI ID is not (0008, audigy 2 zs has 0006)

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 19, 2004, 05:34 AM

btw, what is the official CL ID of the board? (it is usually mentioned on the package, SB0400 or something like that)?

E.

NetHead · Dec 19, 2004, 06:09 PM

Alright, here are some part numbers I've found in the A2 ZS N package...

Code:

  The card itself: M1SB0530473002491A
              Box: 06SB0530473002491A
Quick start guide: 03SB053000002

My experience with the Creative-provided stuff has been, well, strange; I can't even install the software! (Got the basic Creative drivers installed right now, but their installer (InstallShield) just up and disappears when I try to install anything (EAX Console, Surround Mixer, etc.).

Edit: Just realized there's a "Model No: SB0530" on the card ifself.

willzy · Jan 2, 2005, 03:45 AM

Are there any news regarding the kX support of this PCMCIA card ? If I could do any test to get the drivers work, please note me.

**dj_stick** · Jan 2, 2005, 03:51 AM

no news yet, you can try testing the a2 value drivers (the card appears to use this chip)

search the forum for the audigy 2 value testsuite drivers

willzy · Jan 2, 2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

no news yet, you can try testing the a2 value drivers (the card appears to use this chip)

The system hangs up on install of drivers. Is it possible to log the starting of the driver at installation so it might be found out what is incompatible ?

**dj_stick** · Jan 3, 2005, 01:35 AM

check the kxdev website for the monitor application

but seeing as most laptops have built in sound, this is to be expected, due to MS's crappy coding. Windows wasn't designed for more than one soundcard, so installing 2 or more, when installing the drivers a system slowdown is to be expected. Just wait it out and see how it goes

(Btw i run 3 soundcards (2 kX cards) so i know how you feel)

willzy · Jan 3, 2005, 01:58 AM

So it is normal, that the system hangs up ? No mouse move, etc... ? For how long ?

Anyway I will remove the built-in soundcard drivers, maybe that helps.

Which SBxxxx variants are Audigy2 ?

**dj_stick** · Jan 3, 2005, 02:00 AM

there are several that are audigy 2, but you need to find the ones that are "audgy 2 value"
search for the threads on this forum regarding their model number

willzy · Jan 3, 2005, 02:43 AM

Still hang ups.. no BSOD like ist has, only freeze.

Tried several variants, tired of them. If there is a way I can find out which stage of the startup of driver causes the freeze, I could test it.

Monitor does not show too much, only the basic install messages...

Isnt there such a version of the driver that tries to do diags at install ?

**dj_stick** · Jan 3, 2005, 02:45 AM

what version are you trying to install?

willzy · Jan 3, 2005, 02:50 AM

Installed kxdrv3538-full and then kxdrv3538g-update afterwards. After this latter was installed, I went to the installed app dir and started 3538\setup.exe to install the driver. Recognised as SB0360, but of course that did not work.

Tried the 0090, 0400 and xxxx and some others, but same results...

adamlau · Jan 3, 2005, 11:04 PM

Oh boy...I just bought a Audigy 2 ZS Notebook...Please develop a working kX driver for us =>) !

JGSF · Jan 4, 2005, 01:49 AM

Errr... maybe an idiot question, but can you have midi in/out and soundfont support with the Audigy 2 ZS Notebook? thanks.

willzy · Jan 4, 2005, 02:10 AM

MIDI I/O -> NO
Soundfont -> YES

For MIDI, any USB adapter would work...

JGSF · Jan 4, 2005, 01:28 PM

thanks

adamlau · Jan 5, 2005, 08:39 AM

The latest, unpacked Creative driver download (2.02.0002) is a ridiculous ~50 MB in size. I only installed the drivers (no need to install additional bloatware) and am anxiously awaiting kX support!

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 7, 2005, 04:13 AM

we need anybody with kernel-level debugger installed (and ZS Notebook, of course)

also please watch any news on the linux side -- alsa project might add workaround/hack for zs notebook -- we could integrate it in some way to kX when it is out

E.

willzy · Jan 7, 2005, 11:13 AM

I don't have linux, but willing to assist in WXP if possible...

willzy · Jan 7, 2005, 11:25 AM

Oh and forgot to say I have Debugging Tools 6.4.4.4. Any other tool needed, just tell me which one.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 12, 2005, 12:00 AM

debugging tools, ok
--
what are the resources used for the card? [control panel -> device manager]
I don't know if pcmcia boards are pci-compatible or not or if they require any special initialization / resource re-mapping...

E.

willzy · Jan 12, 2005, 02:28 PM

Here are the resources:

CONTROL PANEL (as in everest it does not show up under PCI devices):
PCI bus 87, device 0, function 0

EVEREST:
Device Properties:
Driver Description Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM)
Driver Date 2004.11.18.
Driver Version 5.12.10.1042
Driver Provider Creative
INF File oem50.inf
Hardware ID PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_20011102&REV_00
Device Resources:
IRQ 11
Port FCC0-FCFF

The IRQ11 is shared... I don't think these will help much...

willzy · Jan 12, 2005, 02:30 PM

As a matter of fact, IRQ11 is shared with lots of devices:

IRQ 11 Shared AC97 SoftV92 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP
IRQ 11 Shared Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
IRQ 11 Shared Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible CardBus Controller
IRQ 11 Shared Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible CardBus Controller
IRQ 11 Shared Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM)
IRQ 11 Shared Realtek AC'97 Audio
IRQ 11 Shared Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2
IRQ 11 Shared ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series

Samir · Jan 12, 2005, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willzy

CONTROL PANEL (as in everest it does not show up under PCI devices):
PCI bus 87, device 0, function 0

bus 87 ?!? What does that mean?!? PCMCA should be regular PCI... Or does it?

willzy · Jan 12, 2005, 10:30 PM

I'm far from the necessary knowledge to answer this. If it does not show up under PCI devices, I suspect it is not as true PCI device as might be needed...

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Jan 19, 2005, 11:13 PM

>> Port FCC0-FCFF

that's good news -- the card uses the same I/O port range as regular audigy2
pci bus # -- well, this might be the reason for the issue since kX driver might be accessing the bus in a different way.
as soon as 3538 'final' is out, please remind me to create a custom version of kx.sys for your a2zs notebook

E.

Samir · Jan 19, 2005, 11:34 PM

Well, from tonight on, i'm saving $ to get myself this card...

Great news Eugene!

Tiger M · Jan 20, 2005, 08:29 AM

Does this mean that it will work? *very excited*

Chester01 · Jan 28, 2005, 01:00 AM

does it work? sorry to bring back a dead thread... but I wanna kno if I could use a laptop to run the audio in my car using this

Samir · Jan 28, 2005, 03:09 AM

Not dead thread... We're waiting for Eugene to release 3538 final & custom version of kx.sys so people could test Audigy2zsNotebook...

Dec 19, 2004, 06:09 PM	#63
NetHead DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Some info Alright, here are some part numbers I've found in the A2 ZS N package... Code: The card itself: M1SB0530473002491A Box: 06SB0530473002491A Quick start guide: 03SB053000002 My experience with the Creative-provided stuff has been, well, strange; I can't even install the software! (Got the basic Creative drivers installed right now, but their installer (InstallShield) just up and disappears when I try to install anything (EAX Console, Surround Mixer, etc.). Edit: Just realized there's a "Model No: SB0530" on the card ifself. Last edited by NetHead; Dec 19, 2004 at 06:26 PM. Reason: Formatting

Jan 3, 2005, 02:50 AM	#72
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Installed kxdrv3538-full and then kxdrv3538g-update afterwards. After this latter was installed, I went to the installed app dir and started 3538\setup.exe to install the driver. Recognised as SB0360, but of course that did not work. Tried the 0090, 0400 and xxxx and some others, but same results... Last edited by willzy; Jan 3, 2005 at 02:55 AM.

Jan 5, 2005, 08:39 AM	#77
adamlau DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Any Recent Developments? The latest, unpacked Creative driver download (2.02.0002) is a ridiculous ~50 MB in size. I only installed the drivers (no need to install additional bloatware) and am anxiously awaiting kX support! __________________ IBM T42 2378-FZU 1024 MB Corsair System Select Travelstar 7K60 7200K RPM HDD Kernel Streaming w/ foobar2000 0.8.3 Audigy 2 ZS Notebook Shure E3c Earphones Last edited by adamlau; Jan 5, 2005 at 08:48 AM.

Jan 19, 2005, 11:34 PM	#87
Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 520 Rep Power: 0	Well, from tonight on, i'm saving $ to get myself this card... Great news Eugene! __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6!

Jan 20, 2005, 08:29 AM	#88
Tiger M kX user Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 851 Rep Power: 0	Does this mean that it will work? very excited __________________ Miss you, Steve...

Dec 17, 2004, 07:46 AM	#61
pzad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Subsystem ID can be same, but PCI ID is not (0008, audigy 2 zs has 0006)

Dec 19, 2004, 05:34 AM	#62
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 73	btw, what is the official CL ID of the board? (it is usually mentioned on the package, SB0400 or something like that)? E.

Jan 2, 2005, 03:45 AM	#64
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Are there any news regarding the kX support of this PCMCIA card ? If I could do any test to get the drivers work, please note me.

Jan 3, 2005, 01:58 AM	#68
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	So it is normal, that the system hangs up ? No mouse move, etc... ? For how long ? Anyway I will remove the built-in soundcard drivers, maybe that helps. Which SBxxxx variants are Audigy2 ?

Jan 3, 2005, 02:43 AM	#70
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Still hang ups.. no BSOD like ist has, only freeze. Tried several variants, tired of them. If there is a way I can find out which stage of the startup of driver causes the freeze, I could test it. Monitor does not show too much, only the basic install messages... Isnt there such a version of the driver that tries to do diags at install ?

Jan 3, 2005, 11:04 PM	#73
adamlau DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Oh boy...I just bought a Audigy 2 ZS Notebook...Please develop a working kX driver for us =>) !

Jan 4, 2005, 01:49 AM	#74
JGSF HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 0	Errr... maybe an idiot question, but can you have midi in/out and soundfont support with the Audigy 2 ZS Notebook? thanks.

Jan 4, 2005, 02:10 AM	#75
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	MIDI I/O -> NO Soundfont -> YES For MIDI, any USB adapter would work...

Jan 4, 2005, 01:28 PM	#76
JGSF HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 452 Rep Power: 0	thanks

Jan 7, 2005, 04:13 AM	#78
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 73	we need anybody with kernel-level debugger installed (and ZS Notebook, of course) also please watch any news on the linux side -- alsa project might add workaround/hack for zs notebook -- we could integrate it in some way to kX when it is out E.

Jan 7, 2005, 11:13 AM	#79
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I don't have linux, but willing to assist in WXP if possible...

Jan 7, 2005, 11:25 AM	#80
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Oh and forgot to say I have Debugging Tools 6.4.4.4. Any other tool needed, just tell me which one.

Jan 12, 2005, 12:00 AM	#81
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 73	debugging tools, ok -- what are the resources used for the card? [control panel -> device manager] I don't know if pcmcia boards are pci-compatible or not or if they require any special initialization / resource re-mapping... E.

Jan 12, 2005, 02:28 PM	#82
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Here are the resources: CONTROL PANEL (as in everest it does not show up under PCI devices): PCI bus 87, device 0, function 0 EVEREST: Device Properties: Driver Description Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM) Driver Date 2004.11.18. Driver Version 5.12.10.1042 Driver Provider Creative INF File oem50.inf Hardware ID PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0008&SUBSYS_20011102&REV_00 Device Resources: IRQ 11 Port FCC0-FCFF The IRQ11 is shared... I don't think these will help much...

Jan 12, 2005, 02:30 PM	#83
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	As a matter of fact, IRQ11 is shared with lots of devices: IRQ 11 Shared AC97 SoftV92 Data Fax Modem with SmartCP IRQ 11 Shared Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet IRQ 11 Shared Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible CardBus Controller IRQ 11 Shared Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible CardBus Controller IRQ 11 Shared Creative SB Audigy 2 (WDM) IRQ 11 Shared Realtek AC'97 Audio IRQ 11 Shared Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2 IRQ 11 Shared ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 Series

Jan 12, 2005, 10:30 PM	#85
willzy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I'm far from the necessary knowledge to answer this. If it does not show up under PCI devices, I suspect it is not as true PCI device as might be needed...

Jan 19, 2005, 11:13 PM	#86
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,106 Rep Power: 73	>> Port FCC0-FCFF that's good news -- the card uses the same I/O port range as regular audigy2 pci bus # -- well, this might be the reason for the issue since kX driver might be accessing the bus in a different way. as soon as 3538 'final' is out, please remind me to create a custom version of kx.sys for your a2zs notebook E.

Jan 28, 2005, 01:00 AM	#89
Chester01 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 492 Rep Power: 0	does it work? sorry to bring back a dead thread... but I wanna kno if I could use a laptop to run the audio in my car using this __________________ COMP: Dual Intel PIII 733 Mhz; GeForce 4 Ti 4600; 1.128 Gb RAM; SB0350 (Audigy 2 ZS Platnium) STEREO(I UPGRADED):Crown Audio K1 and K2 amplifiers (4000 watts at .1% THD ), JL 13w7 Subwoofer (6.5 CF) (2) 18" PR's, Klipsch SB-1's, some cement blocks for speaker stands...

Jan 28, 2005, 03:09 AM	#90
Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 520 Rep Power: 0	Not dead thread... We're waiting for Eugene to release 3538 final & custom version of kx.sys so people could test Audigy2zsNotebook... __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6!