3538c released

phantommenace2 · Dec 2, 2004, 04:31 AM

I've heard of the KX drivers before but I hear that they are not good for gaming and they do not support EAX...I use my system for a little of everything from gaming to watching DVD's to listening to music...is it worth it to try these drivers and would they be 100% compatible with my SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer sound card??...would I be gaining any significant improvement in overall sound quality etc?

are the 5.10.0.3537 drivers the latest official stable release??

Robert McClelland · Dec 2, 2004, 04:50 AM

yes go try them

lol you always can uninstalled them.

RvC-Kenny · Dec 2, 2004, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantommenace2

I've heard of the KX drivers before but I hear that they are not good for gaming and they do not support EAX...I use my system for a little of everything from gaming to watching DVD's to listening to music...is it worth it to try these drivers and would they be 100% compatible with my SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer sound card??...would I be gaining any significant improvement in overall sound quality etc?

are the 5.10.0.3537 drivers the latest official stable release??

well they dont support EAX, but sound is just great! best for music/dvd and quite good in games, because the bass is much better! try call of duty or other games with creative's and kx drivers. its not like playing war but beeing there^^
eax would be fine but i wont go back to creative's driver!
i use kx for dvd, music and many games just like you will soon^^

phantommenace2 · Dec 2, 2004, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RvC-Kenny

well they dont support EAX, but sound is just great! best for music/dvd and quite good in games, because the bass is much better! try call of duty or other games with creative's and kx drivers. its not like playing war but beeing there^^
eax would be fine but i wont go back to creative's driver!
i use kx for dvd, music and many games just like you will soon^^

I think I'm gonna give em a try..

are they stable??...also do they support positional 5.1 audio including dolby digital 5.1?

**dj_stick** · Dec 2, 2004, 06:43 AM

dobly digital (ac-3) DECODING/PASSTHROUGH is supported on Audigy 1/2 series boards

Nando Dominguez · Dec 2, 2004, 08:52 AM

Hey, I think the author of this thread asked you to not go off the topic

**dj_stick** · Dec 2, 2004, 09:04 AM

try - any non-3538c specific questions/comments/issues should be posted in the relevant threads that already exist
if one does not, start a new one

Samir · Dec 2, 2004, 12:22 PM

3538c seems to be very stable for now... But they do contain few undocumented options souch as:

1. in AC97 page, there's AC97 <-> I2S Routing Mode button, yes the green one, nothing happends when this button is clicked?!? Eugene, what is this?

2. AC97 Analog Recordin Gain... I don't think i've seen this one before... It has great functionality, & when you mute this one, you can get lower noise if using PHILIPS ADC through AC97 2...

3. 24/96 Router... I understand you can route HQ device to SPDIF / I2S outputs from here, but WHAT are these 4/5, 6/7, 7/8 & hph stand for?!? Additional outputs? Or inputs? Anybody knows?

MMJ · Dec 3, 2004, 10:24 PM

i got 5-10 'Invalid handler' messages when installing the drivers.. is this a problem? any ideas why?

Even so the drivers sound awesome!! thanks Eugene!

artu · Dec 5, 2004, 08:06 AM

这个驱动音质是最棒的，谢谢你们，打cs我也用他，谢谢

DMNXS · Dec 6, 2004, 11:43 AM

Yaay! I'l do some bug testing if it isn't TOO buggy

.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 6, 2004, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMJ

i got 5-10 'Invalid handler' messages when installing the drivers..

if you manage to reproduce that, post more details please

E.

lament · Dec 7, 2004, 08:31 AM

The 'Invalid handler' messages happened to me also, but I'm not sure if I can reproduce them (will try and post results). But as it seems the messages have no effect on the instalation - after install the things work

Well, except the Audigy2 Value (SB0400) which doesn't give any sound out of it. If I'm correct it does give a "bump" (that sounds like a heartbeat) out of it when the driver is started (or a manual "Reset Device Settings" is done).

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 8, 2004, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Audigy2 Value (SB0400) which doesn't give any sound out of it.

I've added initial support for a2 value. if you have one and it is not working, let's try to investigate it (in a separate thread, please call it 'audigy2 value - 3538c')

E.

DMNXS · Dec 8, 2004, 08:19 PM

Well, so far so good... I Like the new ASIO setup window

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Only weird thing that happened was that all of a sudden the kxmixer.exe task shut down when I right-clicked on one of two effects I had opened in the taskbar (so I could exit it; yes, I clicked in the windows task-bar). When I reopened the kX mixer both windows reappeared

.

BTW, Samir, the Analog gain is old if you mean the top-right gain with the red circle, which is translated into german as 'analog recording amplifier'? If you mean something different then I don't know...

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 8, 2004, 10:30 PM

3538e quickfix is available:
http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...962#post508962

E.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 9, 2004, 03:00 AM

3538f quickfix is available:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/63403-3538f-quickfix.html#post509053

E.

nakamichi · Dec 11, 2004, 02:57 AM

I want just one more feature:
Have you been in a situation when your PC mouse was gone or broken and you've been left with just your keyboard? You wanted to go to the kX Mixer,you activated it and...you could open the mixer,but you could not change anything

I want to be able to get access to every slider,menu and parameter with only a keyboard.

TAB doesn't work in the mixer where the sliders are,and I can't go to the analyzer and the peak meter without a mouse

duh!

MMJ · Dec 12, 2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

if you manage to reproduce that, post more details please

E.

I got the same thing when installing 38g, so to test I uninstalled them and re-installed 38c again, got the same again followed by 38g same again, I get get exactly 10 messsages saying DWORD CONFIG - invalid handler and have to click okay.

What sort of information do you need? could it be related to microsofts .net framework i have installed? apart from those messages during installation drivers seem to work fine!

The_neo · Dec 12, 2004, 05:01 PM

HI Eugene!
i donot think this is very big problem ...but after installing 3538g, when i restart my comp ...peak plugin n others DSP plguin windows automatically opens with KX logo ....i m using sblive 5.1 (sb0100) XP with SP2 ..i tried to figure out but nothin came out..

if u need any more info regarding this ...let me know...

neway...thanx for new version of KX....till now no problems..

//The_neo

classic_leon · Dec 12, 2004, 05:40 PM

It is an excellent work!

**dj_stick** · Dec 12, 2004, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_neo

HI Eugene!
i donot think this is very big problem ...but after installing 3538g, when i restart my comp ...peak plugin n others DSP plguin windows automatically opens with KX logo ....i m using sblive 5.1 (sb0100) XP with SP2 ..i tried to figure out but nothin came out..

if u need any more info regarding this ...let me know...

neway...thanx for new version of KX....till now no problems..

//The_neo

this has happened occasionalyl to me

if you have windows open when you save the DSP setting, chances are they will re-appear on load (btw this hasn't happened with any version since 3538a for me yet)

kiril_miloshev · Dec 14, 2004, 12:20 PM

Do you plan to add ac-3 passthrough for 10k1 ? Or I have to buy Audigy2
10X

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 15, 2004, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

this has happened occasionalyl to me

if you have windows open when you save the DSP setting, chances are they will re-appear on load (btw this hasn't happened with any version since 3538a for me yet)

this is not a 'bug', but a 'feature'
kX Mixer should restore window placements when saving/restoring settings

Quote:

Do you plan to add ac-3 passthrough for 10k1 ?

I cannot promise

Keen_ · Dec 18, 2004, 09:12 AM

Eugene, some time ago i`ve posted some suggestions in russian threads of a forum.. have u read `em ? got no reply ;( if i got some more, should i post it here, in english thread ?
thanx

ps
ASIO 24/96 is a dream

but how close is that ?

The_neo · Dec 18, 2004, 02:55 PM

Thanx Dj_stick...
now it seems everything ok...

//The_neo

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 19, 2004, 04:47 AM

>> some time ago i`ve posted some suggestions in russian threads of a forum..

which threads?
duplicating suggests in english might be a good idea, too

but not in '3538c' thread

GregC · Apr 11, 2005, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

Added initial support for 6.1 and 7.1 speaker-sets<br>
Fixed bug with 'kxctrl -shw 19' option<br>
Fixed bug with HpSp plugin (invalid channel assignment)<br>

think twice if you ever need to upgrade. this is a development release, not for generic public. if you don't know what 'debug' means, if you don't know what 'asio' means, if you mainly play EAX games or watch DVDs -- DO NOT INSTALL 3538c!..

I have a question: I use the KX drivers mainly for games and I use the HpSp plugin to get positional sound through headphones. I know quite a lot about computers, so I am willing to try the new drivers and accept that I may have problems with them due to bugs. Will those 3 bug fixes at the top of the quoted text improve positional sound in games that support it?

Dec 2, 2004, 04:31 AM	#31
phantommenace2 hexa-core gamer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 266 Rep Power: 52 System Specs	I've heard of the KX drivers before but I hear that they are not good for gaming and they do not support EAX...I use my system for a little of everything from gaming to watching DVD's to listening to music...is it worth it to try these drivers and would they be 100% compatible with my SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer sound card??...would I be gaining any significant improvement in overall sound quality etc? are the 5.10.0.3537 drivers the latest official stable release?? Last edited by phantommenace2; Dec 2, 2004 at 04:38 AM.

Dec 2, 2004, 04:50 AM	#32
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,647 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	yes go try them lol you always can uninstalled them. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Dec 2, 2004, 12:22 PM	#38
Samir kX Lover Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 520 Rep Power: 0	3538c seems to be very stable for now... But they do contain few undocumented options souch as: 1. in AC97 page, there's AC97 <-> I2S Routing Mode button, yes the green one, nothing happends when this button is clicked?!? Eugene, what is this? 2. AC97 Analog Recordin Gain... I don't think i've seen this one before... It has great functionality, & when you mute this one, you can get lower noise if using PHILIPS ADC through AC97 2... 3. 24/96 Router... I understand you can route HQ device to SPDIF / I2S outputs from here, but WHAT are these 4/5, 6/7, 7/8 & hph stand for?!? Additional outputs? Or inputs? Anybody knows? __________________ MU3NKA 3A HAPO6!

Dec 6, 2004, 11:43 AM	#41
DMNXS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Leipzig, Germany Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Yaay! I'l do some bug testing if it isn't TOO buggy . __________________ WinXP Home SP1 + SP2 \| P4 1.7 GHz \| Gigabyte GA-8IDX \| 256 MB SD-RAM (PC133) \| Maxtor 4W060H4 60 GB (system drive; IDE 1 Master) + Maxtor 6Y120P0 120 GB (IDE 1 Slave) \| 3x Firewire PCI card \| IDE DVD-ROM 16X (IDE 2 Master) \| CyberDrive CW038D ATAPI CD-R/RW (IDE 2 Slave) \| nVidia GeForce 2 MX/MX400 (AGP4X) \| Creative SB Audigy Player (SB0090 10k2 (c000)) + kX Project drivers v3538h

Dec 8, 2004, 08:19 PM	#45
DMNXS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Leipzig, Germany Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Well, so far so good... I Like the new ASIO setup window . Only weird thing that happened was that all of a sudden the kxmixer.exe task shut down when I right-clicked on one of two effects I had opened in the taskbar (so I could exit it; yes, I clicked in the windows task-bar). When I reopened the kX mixer both windows reappeared . BTW, Samir, the Analog gain is old if you mean the top-right gain with the red circle, which is translated into german as 'analog recording amplifier'? If you mean something different then I don't know... __________________ WinXP Home SP1 + SP2 \| P4 1.7 GHz \| Gigabyte GA-8IDX \| 256 MB SD-RAM (PC133) \| Maxtor 4W060H4 60 GB (system drive; IDE 1 Master) + Maxtor 6Y120P0 120 GB (IDE 1 Slave) \| 3x Firewire PCI card \| IDE DVD-ROM 16X (IDE 2 Master) \| CyberDrive CW038D ATAPI CD-R/RW (IDE 2 Slave) \| nVidia GeForce 2 MX/MX400 (AGP4X) \| Creative SB Audigy Player (SB0090 10k2 (c000)) + kX Project drivers v3538h

Dec 2, 2004, 08:52 AM	#36
Nando Dominguez DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 280 Rep Power: 0	Hey, I think the author of this thread asked you to not go off the topic

Dec 3, 2004, 10:24 PM	#39
MMJ DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	i got 5-10 'Invalid handler' messages when installing the drivers.. is this a problem? any ideas why? Even so the drivers sound awesome!! thanks Eugene!

Dec 5, 2004, 08:06 AM	#40
artu DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	这个驱动音质是最棒的，谢谢你们，打cs我也用他，谢谢

Dec 7, 2004, 08:31 AM	#43
lament DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	The 'Invalid handler' messages happened to me also, but I'm not sure if I can reproduce them (will try and post results). But as it seems the messages have no effect on the instalation - after install the things work Well, except the Audigy2 Value (SB0400) which doesn't give any sound out of it. If I'm correct it does give a "bump" (that sounds like a heartbeat) out of it when the driver is started (or a manual "Reset Device Settings" is done).

Dec 8, 2004, 10:30 PM	Thread Starter #46
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	3538e quickfix is available: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...962#post508962 E.

Dec 9, 2004, 03:00 AM	Thread Starter #47
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	3538f quickfix is available: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/general-discussion/63403-3538f-quickfix.html#post509053 E.

Dec 11, 2004, 02:57 AM	#48
nakamichi HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 122 Rep Power: 0	I want just one more feature: Have you been in a situation when your PC mouse was gone or broken and you've been left with just your keyboard? You wanted to go to the kX Mixer,you activated it and...you could open the mixer,but you could not change anything I want to be able to get access to every slider,menu and parameter with only a keyboard. TAB doesn't work in the mixer where the sliders are,and I can't go to the analyzer and the peak meter without a mouse duh!

Dec 12, 2004, 05:01 PM	#50
The_neo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: india Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	HI Eugene! i donot think this is very big problem ...but after installing 3538g, when i restart my comp ...peak plugin n others DSP plguin windows automatically opens with KX logo ....i m using sblive 5.1 (sb0100) XP with SP2 ..i tried to figure out but nothin came out.. if u need any more info regarding this ...let me know... neway...thanx for new version of KX....till now no problems.. //The_neo

Dec 12, 2004, 05:40 PM	#51
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	It is an excellent work! __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Dec 14, 2004, 12:20 PM	#53
kiril_miloshev DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	kmiloshev Do you plan to add ac-3 passthrough for 10k1 ? Or I have to buy Audigy2 10X

Dec 18, 2004, 09:12 AM	#55
Keen_ DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Samara, RU Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	some reports Eugene, some time ago i`ve posted some suggestions in russian threads of a forum.. have u read `em ? got no reply ;( if i got some more, should i post it here, in english thread ? thanx ps ASIO 24/96 is a dream but how close is that ?

Dec 18, 2004, 02:55 PM	#56
The_neo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: india Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	Thanx Dj_stick... now it seems everything ok... //The_neo

Dec 19, 2004, 04:47 AM	Thread Starter #57
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	>> some time ago i`ve posted some suggestions in russian threads of a forum.. which threads? duplicating suggests in english might be a good idea, too but not in '3538c' thread