Audigy 2 Value

ronbayridge · Dec 12, 2004, 03:30 PM

I was able to get the sound working on ths card (SB0400) by disabling the mixer at startup. However my purpose of using this software was to create 3 virtual sound cards for use in Home Automation.

Although I now get sound from the card - all three outouts are recieving the sound at the same time - I have to now manually start the mixer and then switch front and back speakers to get the 3 virtual cards. Manual intervention is not possible. I assume that this is due to this specific sound card.

I feel that it may be best to return this card and get one that is know to work with this software. -- Can you recommend a specific model number that is in current production ?

Thanks
Ron
RonG@rite-travel.com

lament · Dec 12, 2004, 04:25 PM

I found something interesting - adjusting 'Analog Front', 'Analog Rear', 'Analog Center' and 'Analog Subwoofer' volume in kxMixer (the Ins 'n' Outs section) does not have any effect on the sound. Could there be a problem with my DSP routings or is this a problem with the A2 Value and kX driver?

Another thing is muting the 'Generic S/PDIF Out' on the same section in kxMixer - it mutes the Front speakers.
Swap Front and Rear also does not have any effect at all; the front out on the card is always the front out no matter if front and rear are swapped or not.

charlie421 · Dec 14, 2004, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Gavrilov

now, guys, back to kX

what about audigy2 value under kX3538f?..

I've added some code to support A2Value based on information found @ alsa.
however, I'm unsure, since the card looks a little bit weird:
it lacks p16v unit, probably, it was integrated into 10k2 chip.
also, some registers were definitely changed

if there are people with a2value, let me know -- we will need to perform some additional tests

E.

Hi Eugene, I have Audigy 2 Value SB0400 card. I am ready to test your drivers.

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 15, 2004, 03:27 AM

>> I found something interesting - adjusting 'Analog Front', 'Analog Rear', 'Analog
>> Center' and 'Analog Subwoofer' volume in kxMixer (the Ins 'n' Outs section) does
>> not have any effect on the sound

interesting...
this means the DSP outputs/inputs are not used the same way generic 'a2' uses them

I will post a 'custom' version of kX Mixer in order to solve '--startup' issue

as for further tests, please open kX DSP, clear it, upload FXBus 0, start audio playback through 'wave 0/1', upload 'stvol', connect it to fxbus 0,1; upload 'epiloglt_k2', connect stvol to each epiloglt_k2 output and watch any changes in sound output (it should move to the corresponding speaker -- analog, digital and so on...)
please write down any changes compared to the information found here:
http://www.kxproject.com/io.php

Eugene

lament · Dec 15, 2004, 10:35 AM

First of all, when i clear DSP the sound still plays thru front speakers (don't know if this is the default behaviour so I'm telling it).

This is what i was able to figure out (I always hear front speakers playing so I can't tell you on which out they are connected):

[4002] spdif1_l analog center
[4003] spdif1_r analog woofer
[4006] spdif3_l analog rear left
[4007] spdif3_r analog rear right

I do not have any digital equipment so I can't test the digital outs...

BTW in the default DSP that I'm using the normal 'epilog' is present, not the 'epiloglt_k2' - could this be the problem for not-working speaker controls in Mixer?

And another thing - I have saved the complete settings (DSP, automation, etc) before I started your test and when I load them after the test the --startup effect apeared (the sound is gone).
Update: With some additional testing I found out that the 'Hardware' save/load makes the card go silent.

Samo Vodopivec

**Eugene Gavrilov** · Dec 16, 2004, 11:22 PM

thanks for information
note the new kxmixer.exe -- for your tests

>>I always hear front speakers playing so I can't tell you on which out they are
>> connected

use 'wave 4/5' instead of 'wave 0/1' and let me know the results
[this should help localizing front speakers]

also, please post here full hardware/software info as shown by the driver.
do you know if there's ac97 codec present?

/E.

lament · Dec 17, 2004, 09:56 AM

I did the tests with the new kX mixer but I don't think they will help you (well, at least we know that mute really works)

Front speakers:
[4000] spdif0_l front left
[4001] spdif0_r front right

Driver info (credits removed as I don't think they are needed):
----------------------------------------------------
kX Audio Driver, kX Mixer (Debug)
Copyright © Eugene Gavrilov, 2001-2004.
All Rights Reserved
Version: 5, 10, 00, 3538 - debug
Compiled: Dec 9 2004 07:38:13
----Hardware / Software configuration---------------
Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug)
Driver Date: Dec 10 2004 08:59:00
Driver Version: 5.10.00.3538 - debug
DB Name:none
SB0400 10k2 [9000]
PCI Information:
Device: 81102 Subsys: 10011102 ChipRev: 0
Card is '10k2'
Card has MPU device
Card model is '5.1'
Card is Audigy2-compatible
Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847650]
3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement
Codec is 2.0 compliant
Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out-
DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit-
Ext Capabilities [605]: -var rate PCM audio- -slot/DAC mappings-
Port: 9000 Irq: 0x14(20)
Playback buffer: 20a0
Record buffer: 4000
Number of AC3 buffers: 4
Tank memory: 256 kb
GSIF buffer: 256 samples
OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148]
----------------------------------------------------

I don't know how to identify the ac97 codec so I can't say if it is present or not...

Samo Vodopivec

**dj_stick** · Dec 17, 2004, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Card HAS AC97 codec
Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847650]

i think that defines whether it has an AC-97 codec

lament · Dec 17, 2004, 10:02 AM

Heh, ok then

I tought Eugene doesn't fully trust the output of the driver and wants me to check for ac97 elsewhere...

Samo Vodopivec

**dj_stick** · Dec 17, 2004, 10:05 AM

ah well ok then, maybe it's not so clear

charlie421 · Jan 25, 2005, 05:44 PM

Hi, I would be happy if kx drivers will work with using kx mixer at startup.
Now if kx mixer is running through startup, sound is off.
This is , I think, important problem with these kx drivers.
Thank you.

**dj_stick** · Jan 25, 2005, 10:44 PM

please check the sticky thread in this forum

igor_levicki · Jan 26, 2005, 01:29 AM

I am not sure if Eugene has this info:

1102:2007 -> Audigy4 Pro [SB0380]

This may also be new:

1102:1006 -> Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]
1102:1007 -> Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0413] Dell OEM

Both do not have AC97 chip (info from ALSA).

Also this is funny:

1102:1005 -> AudigyLS [SB0310b] -- they say it says SB0310 on the card but the ID is different.

And finally Eugene please take look at this. It may help you to get Audigy 2 Value working -- it needs some special config in order to work.

lament · Jan 26, 2005, 03:12 PM

Quick fix for the muted card at windows startup: set the S/PDIF frequency in kx mixer to 96000.

Samo Vodopivec

Dec 15, 2004, 10:35 AM	#35
lament DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	First of all, when i clear DSP the sound still plays thru front speakers (don't know if this is the default behaviour so I'm telling it). This is what i was able to figure out (I always hear front speakers playing so I can't tell you on which out they are connected): [4002] spdif1_l analog center [4003] spdif1_r analog woofer [4006] spdif3_l analog rear left [4007] spdif3_r analog rear right I do not have any digital equipment so I can't test the digital outs... BTW in the default DSP that I'm using the normal 'epilog' is present, not the 'epiloglt_k2' - could this be the problem for not-working speaker controls in Mixer? And another thing - I have saved the complete settings (DSP, automation, etc) before I started your test and when I load them after the test the --startup effect apeared (the sound is gone). Update: With some additional testing I found out that the 'Hardware' save/load makes the card go silent. Samo Vodopivec Last edited by lament; Dec 15, 2004 at 10:56 AM.

Jan 25, 2005, 05:44 PM	#41
charlie421 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Audigy 2 Value and kx driver at startup windows Hi, I would be happy if kx drivers will work with using kx mixer at startup. Now if kx mixer is running through startup, sound is off. This is , I think, important problem with these kx drivers. Thank you. __________________ The Truth is Out There..

Jan 26, 2005, 01:29 AM	#43
igor_levicki Intel Black Belt Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I am not sure if Eugene has this info: 1102:2007 -> Audigy4 Pro [SB0380] This may also be new: 1102:1006 -> Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410] 1102:1007 -> Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0413] Dell OEM Both do not have AC97 chip (info from ALSA). Also this is funny: 1102:1005 -> AudigyLS [SB0310b] -- they say it says SB0310 on the card but the ID is different. And finally Eugene please take look at this. It may help you to get Audigy 2 Value working -- it needs some special config in order to work. __________________ Regards, Igor Levicki -- Creative Audigy 2 ZS Retail (SB0350) kX 3538h

Dec 12, 2004, 03:30 PM	#31
ronbayridge DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I was able to get the sound working on ths card (SB0400) by disabling the mixer at startup. However my purpose of using this software was to create 3 virtual sound cards for use in Home Automation. Although I now get sound from the card - all three outouts are recieving the sound at the same time - I have to now manually start the mixer and then switch front and back speakers to get the 3 virtual cards. Manual intervention is not possible. I assume that this is due to this specific sound card. I feel that it may be best to return this card and get one that is know to work with this software. -- Can you recommend a specific model number that is in current production ? Thanks Ron RonG@rite-travel.com

Dec 12, 2004, 04:25 PM	#32
lament DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	I found something interesting - adjusting 'Analog Front', 'Analog Rear', 'Analog Center' and 'Analog Subwoofer' volume in kxMixer (the Ins 'n' Outs section) does not have any effect on the sound. Could there be a problem with my DSP routings or is this a problem with the A2 Value and kX driver? Another thing is muting the 'Generic S/PDIF Out' on the same section in kxMixer - it mutes the Front speakers. Swap Front and Rear also does not have any effect at all; the front out on the card is always the front out no matter if front and rear are swapped or not.

Dec 15, 2004, 03:27 AM	#34
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	>> I found something interesting - adjusting 'Analog Front', 'Analog Rear', 'Analog >> Center' and 'Analog Subwoofer' volume in kxMixer (the Ins 'n' Outs section) does >> not have any effect on the sound interesting... this means the DSP outputs/inputs are not used the same way generic 'a2' uses them I will post a 'custom' version of kX Mixer in order to solve '--startup' issue as for further tests, please open kX DSP, clear it, upload FXBus 0, start audio playback through 'wave 0/1', upload 'stvol', connect it to fxbus 0,1; upload 'epiloglt_k2', connect stvol to each epiloglt_k2 output and watch any changes in sound output (it should move to the corresponding speaker -- analog, digital and so on...) please write down any changes compared to the information found here: http://www.kxproject.com/io.php Eugene

Dec 16, 2004, 11:22 PM	#36
Eugene Gavrilov kX Project Lead Programmer and Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,119 Rep Power: 75	thanks for information note the new kxmixer.exe -- for your tests >>I always hear front speakers playing so I can't tell you on which out they are >> connected use 'wave 4/5' instead of 'wave 0/1' and let me know the results [this should help localizing front speakers] also, please post here full hardware/software info as shown by the driver. do you know if there's ac97 codec present? /E.

Dec 17, 2004, 09:56 AM	#37
lament DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	I did the tests with the new kX mixer but I don't think they will help you (well, at least we know that mute really works) Front speakers: [4000] spdif0_l front left [4001] spdif0_r front right Driver info (credits removed as I don't think they are needed): ---------------------------------------------------- kX Audio Driver, kX Mixer (Debug) Copyright © Eugene Gavrilov, 2001-2004. All Rights Reserved Version: 5, 10, 00, 3538 - debug Compiled: Dec 9 2004 07:38:13 ----Hardware / Software configuration--------------- Driver Name:kX Audio Driver (Debug) Driver Date: Dec 10 2004 08:59:00 Driver Version: 5.10.00.3538 - debug DB Name:none SB0400 10k2 [9000] PCI Information: Device: 81102 Subsys: 10011102 ChipRev: 0 Card is '10k2' Card has MPU device Card model is '5.1' Card is Audigy2-compatible Card HAS AC97 codec Codec name: Unk AC97-codec [83847650] 3D Extension: SigmaTel 3D Enhancement Codec is 2.0 compliant Capabilities[6a90] : -headphone out- DAC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit- ADC resolutions : -16-bit- -20-bit- Ext Capabilities [605]: -var rate PCM audio- -slot/DAC mappings- Port: 9000 Irq: 0x14(20) Playback buffer: 20a0 Record buffer: 4000 Number of AC3 buffers: 4 Tank memory: 256 kb GSIF buffer: 256 samples OS version: [2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 2 5 1 Service Pack 2; 156 148] ---------------------------------------------------- I don't know how to identify the ac97 codec so I can't say if it is present or not... Samo Vodopivec

Dec 17, 2004, 10:02 AM	#39
lament DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Heh, ok then I tought Eugene doesn't fully trust the output of the driver and wants me to check for ac97 elsewhere... Samo Vodopivec

Jan 26, 2005, 03:12 PM	#44
lament DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Quick fix for the muted card at windows startup: set the S/PDIF frequency in kx mixer to 96000. Samo Vodopivec