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Old Dec 16, 2004, 11:56 PM   #1
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audigy2 value - testsuite
hello

people with audigy2 value and kx3538g!
please download the following file:
http://www.kxproject.com/kxmixer.exe

replace the original kxmixer.exe (make a copy)
reboot without '--startup' option
launch the mixer
make sure audio is O.K.
now, execute 'settings -> reset device settings'
you will see some notification messages
let me know when exactly does the sound disappear

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The sound disappear after clicking button Yes on window of notification message about Reseting device settings. You can hear "ploom" noise, it`s same as in time when Windows starting on PC and activing sound card.
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>> The sound disappear after clicking button Yes on window of notification message about Reseting device settings

you should get some additional notifications before the sound disappears. are you sure you've updated kxmixer.exe properly? place it to windows\system32 folder [quit kX Mixer before updating it]

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The sound goes away after clicking OK on the first message ("about to mute..."). This isn't a surprise for me
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hey lament, be good
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The sound goes away after clicking OK on the first message ("about to mute..."). This isn't a surprise for me
Eugene, this same happened with me
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>> This isn't a surprise for me

yep
for me either

try this version:
http://www.kxproject.com/kxmixer3538h.exe

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ikx->reset... kills the sound

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still kx mixer setup on windows start kills sound
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Old Dec 21, 2004, 03:15 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #10
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>> ikx->reset... kills the sound

good
now, after reboot , make sure you hear the sound

open kx console [kxctrl --gui or in 'Console' command in the kx mixer menu]

issue the following commands and watch the sound:

shw 0 0
shw 2 1
shw 3 0
shw 4 0 [please note that the sound might move to rear speakers here]
shw 4 1 [please note that the sound might move to rear speakers here]
shw 5 0
shw 11 0
shw 12 0
shw 6 0
shw 19 0
shw 16 10f
shw 17 1

if any particular command causes sound to disappear or any error message, let me know. if you manage to find the exact command that causes the sound to disappear, reboot and repeat the test without entering that particular command.

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Old Dec 21, 2004, 09:53 AM   #11
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The sound goes away after 'shw 2 1'. Here is the output from all the commands entered:

>shw 0 0
Error setting HW parameter
>shw 2 1
HW Parameter 2 set to: 1
>shw 3 0
HW Parameter 3 set to: 0
>shw 4 0
HW Parameter 4 set to: 0
>shw 4 1
HW Parameter 4 set to: 1
>shw 5 0
HW Parameter 5 set to: 0
>shw 11 0
HW Parameter 11 set to: 0
>shw 12 0
HW Parameter 12 set to: 0
>shw 6 0
HW Parameter 6 set to: 0
>shw 19 0
HW Parameter 19 set to: 0
>shw 16 10f
HW Parameter 16 set to: 10f
>shw 17 1
HW Parameter 17 set to: 1

Now I have to reboot

So after reboot I entered all the commands except the problematic one and the sound still plays (as I'm listening to stereo music via winamp I have made a custom DSP for it so all 6 outputs are comming directly from 4/5 device so I didn't notice the sound going rear-only). The command output is the same as above...

P.S.: Eugene, did you maybe forget about this thread: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...t=62922&page=3 ?

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hmmm... that's very strange

please do the following:
reboot, make sure the sound is o.k.
now launch kxctrl --gui
type:
gp 40
write down the value ('value a')
type
shw 17 1 [sound might probably become muted]
gp 40
write down the value

now, in the kxmixer, 'reset settings'
then type:
sp 40 <value 'a'>

does it restore sound?

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no, I haven't forgotten about that thread
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Old Dec 26, 2004, 01:49 AM   #13
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Little bit offtopic, but Eugene, how many significant p16v registers are there (other than register 40)? I'm interested in basic stuff, like changing output ferq, etc...
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How to on sound after resetting device settings
I found interesting thing, I think:
After resetting device settings sound is off .
And now, if I set in kX mixer Master SPDIF frequency from 48000 to 96000, sound is on
If I set SPDIF freq to 48000, sound will be off
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>gp 40
p16V[reg=40]=110000
>shw 17 1
HW Parameter 17 set to: 1
>gp 40
p16V[reg=40]=110000

Those three commands didn't affect the sound in any way (it was playing all the time).

>sp 40 110000
wrote p16v: reg=40 val=110000

The command does not restore the sound.

And I have to confirm what charlie421 said - if I set the S/PDIF Frequency in the mixer to 96000 the sound comes back.

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Something new with testing?
Could be right if testing will continuing.
Thank you.
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it seems I misunderstood your prev. message
ok, now let's check:

make sure the audio is playing back correctly
open kxctrl --gui
execute:
gfn0 18
gptr 76 0

now reset settings
now type 'sfn0 18 <the value displayed by prev. gfn0 18 command>'
then type 'sptr 76 0 <the value displayed by prev. gptr 76 0 command>'
check, whether sfn0 18, sptr 76 or both restore the sound
(that is, try sfn0, then sptr; sfn0 only; sptr only etc.)

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I'm having some serious problems with my graphic card and it will be replaced next during the next week (at least I hope so) and then I'll make those tests and report results.

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Only sfn0 18 <value> restore the sound.
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Old Jan 10, 2005, 01:37 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #20
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and what was fn18 value?

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3f60 is the magic number that restores the sound.

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Looks, that someone do not read alsa source carefully. :-)

From alsa source:

/*
* Audigy 2 Value notes:
* A_IOCFG Input (GPIO)
* 0x400 = Front analog jack plugged in. (Green socket)
* 0x1000 = Read analog jack plugged in. (Black socket)
* 0x2000 = Center/LFE analog jack plugged in. (Orange socket)
* A_IOCFG Output (GPIO)
* 0x60 = Sound out of front Left.
* Win sets it to 0xXX61
*/
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and:

} else if (emu->serial == 0x10011102) { /* audigy2 value */
/* Unmute Analog now. */
outl(inl(emu->port + A_IOCFG) | 0x0060, emu->port + A_IOCFG);
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to lament, charlie 421:

thanks!
I will need you to run more tests, but you will need to install original creative drivers and download a special version of the 'spy' utility.
get http://www.kxproject.com/giveio.rar
then get http://www.kxproject.com/spy_cmd.rar
install CL drivers
unpack all the files to the same folder
copy giveio.sys to windows\system32\drivers folder
run 'loaddrv', change the path to windows\system32\drivers\giveio.sys
click 'install', 'start', quit 'loaddrv'
after that, launch 'spy'
you should see '>' prompt, if successful -- now just try 'gfn0 18' or smth like that in order to check if its working properly -- it should be quite similar to kxctrl commands

[under CL drivers]:
switch to 48kHz mode [spdif output frequency], execute 'gfn0 18', 'gfn0 14', 'gptr 76 0', 'gptr 5e 0', gptr 5f 0' -- write down the values you get
switch to 96kHz mode, repeat the commands
switch to 44.1kHz mode, repeat
switch to 48kHz
turn on spdif bypass, repeat
turn it off
turn 'digital output only' mode on, repeat
turn off, repeat
set recording source to 'line-in', start 24/96 audio recording, repeat the commands
set recording source to 'cd-spdif', start 16/48 recording, repeat the commands
-- I hope this will help me to make a2 value cards as functional as any other 10k1/10k2 hardware

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to pzad:

it seems someone wishes to discover the values required for 44.1, 48 and 96kHz just by meditating on "0x60 = Sound out of front Left" line, right?
and, btw, 0x40 & 0x20 -- do you know the role for these bits? [when used separately?]
and if there's a 'digital output only' switch or it is just a placeholder for DSP re-routings?.. etc.. etc..
heh... I guess people could have been a little bit more tolerant -- and use their energy for something useful, not just for self-assertion

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All the settings have been changed thru Creative Audio Console (hope this is the right place to change things as I do not know CL drivers/apps very well). The results from chaning the "Digital output (PCM) sampling rate settings":

48kHz mode

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: 550480
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

96kHz mode

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0440
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

44.1kHz mode

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0480
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

48kHz mode + SPDIF Passthrough enabled

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0400
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

96kHz mode + SPDIF Passthrough enabled

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0440
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

44.1kHz mode + SPDIF Passthrough enabled

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0480
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

I can't find the "Digital output only" mode switch so I can't run any test with it.

Recording test (both made with Creative Smart Recorder):
- Source: Analog Mix (Line/CD/Aux/TAD/PC)
- Format: Wave 96000 Hz 24bit Stereo

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0400
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

Recording test:
- Source: S/PDIF-In
- Format: Wave 48000 Hz 16bit Stereo

>gfn0 18
Fn0: [reg: 18]: 3f61
>gfn0 14
Fn0: [reg: 14]: 8071
>gptr 76 0
Ptr: reg: 76 chn: 0: aa0400
>gptr 5e 0
Ptr: reg: 5e chn: 0: f00
>gptr 5f 0
Ptr: reg: 5f chn: 0: 0

Hope this helps.

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I can't find the "Digital output only" mode switch so I can't run any test with it.
i don't think the Audigy 2 Series have this mode, as they have a dedicated digital out, where as the Live! 5.1 and Audigy 1 cards had a shared analog/digital output
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