Ext. Mixer question.

ROBSCIX · Feb 12, 2005, 02:25 PM

I am hooking an external mixer to my Kx powered card, now do I use the tape out(I have been) or is it better to use SUBMIX OUT, I know quite a few of you guys have external mixers..thx, I get sound with KX, I just want to make sure I have proper wiring, THX

Nappylady · Feb 12, 2005, 07:24 PM

Your mixer sends the same kind of signal through each of its outputs; from a "wiring" perspective, it doesn't matter which one you use. Whatever is most convenient for you.

In my setup, I use the insert jack on each microphone channel to go into the computer, and then return from the computer's rear out plug; this way, I can do ASIO processing of the signals within the computer, and have all the routing options of the mixer. I really like this setup, but lots of people really frown on monitoring through a computer; who's to say who's right?

Do what you like best; what is most useful to you; what "feels" right to you.

**dj_stick** · Feb 12, 2005, 11:10 PM

i use the tape output simply because i have plenty of 3.5 stereo to 2XRCA leads around

ROBSCIX · Feb 13, 2005, 12:47 AM

Ok, thanks but I think my main concern is if I do use the Sub mix out..are the output levels gonna be correct Like I am not gonna fry my Line_in am I?...I don't think so..BTW where do I connect Peak to get an accurate level from my line?

**dj_stick** · Feb 13, 2005, 12:52 AM

don't know about frying anything, it should max out at line level

but for the peak meter, directly after the src/prolog module

ROBSCIX · Feb 13, 2005, 12:56 AM

ok, I don't use those modules..but I guess I can use one to acess the line and give levels correct?..I'll give it a try..thx stick..

**dj_stick** · Feb 13, 2005, 01:07 AM

the prolog is the default kX input module, you probably use that

TravelRec. · Feb 14, 2005, 08:01 AM

Hi!

There are some good reasons to use the record out:

1. All levels are matched to ~750mV e.g. 0db at max. Master is much louder when fully open

2. The (mixed) signal reaches the record out "Master pre-fade", so the level doesn´t change, when you fiddle around with the master fader

3. Master out has one amp more than the record out, so some more noise generation

My suggesetion therefore: use record out!

Hint: if channels have a peak-LED, set the channel gain so that the peak-LED is NEVER lit at loud inputs, so you can´t easily overdrive your card´s input too. For safety: add a peakmeter at the input of the card and look always at it while recording.

Feb 12, 2005, 02:25 PM	#1
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Ext. Mixer question. I am hooking an external mixer to my Kx powered card, now do I use the tape out(I have been) or is it better to use SUBMIX OUT, I know quite a few of you guys have external mixers..thx, I get sound with KX, I just want to make sure I have proper wiring, THX

Feb 14, 2005, 08:01 AM	#8
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 56	Hi! There are some good reasons to use the record out: 1. All levels are matched to ~750mV e.g. 0db at max. Master is much louder when fully open 2. The (mixed) signal reaches the record out "Master pre-fade", so the level doesn´t change, when you fiddle around with the master fader 3. Master out has one amp more than the record out, so some more noise generation My suggesetion therefore: use record out! Hint: if channels have a peak-LED, set the channel gain so that the peak-LED is NEVER lit at loud inputs, so you can´t easily overdrive your card´s input too. For safety: add a peakmeter at the input of the card and look always at it while recording. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Feb 12, 2005, 07:24 PM	#2
Nappylady DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 257 Rep Power: 0	Your mixer sends the same kind of signal through each of its outputs; from a "wiring" perspective, it doesn't matter which one you use. Whatever is most convenient for you. In my setup, I use the insert jack on each microphone channel to go into the computer, and then return from the computer's rear out plug; this way, I can do ASIO processing of the signals within the computer, and have all the routing options of the mixer. I really like this setup, but lots of people really frown on monitoring through a computer; who's to say who's right? Do what you like best; what is most useful to you; what "feels" right to you.

Feb 13, 2005, 12:47 AM	Thread Starter #4
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Ok, thanks but I think my main concern is if I do use the Sub mix out..are the output levels gonna be correct Like I am not gonna fry my Line_in am I?...I don't think so..BTW where do I connect Peak to get an accurate level from my line?

Feb 13, 2005, 12:56 AM	Thread Starter #6
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	ok, I don't use those modules..but I guess I can use one to acess the line and give levels correct?..I'll give it a try..thx stick..