cant acheive latency under 21ms without pops and clicks

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 03:25 AM

hi
i cant seem to get a low latency out of my ct5760
i have been using 2.00ms perfectly for playback and loved it but if i try to set up an asio track the latency jumps through the roof and i get the traditonal pop and click unless i set the latency to well over 21ms wich is bad for me cause most of the things i do is in realtime.

the onlything that im recording that has and dsp fx is the line wich uses the dynamics processor and the drum machine limiter patch.

any suggestions?

Tril · Nov 8, 2005, 06:16 AM

I don't know if it will help but try to increase the priority of the process of the host.

ctrl+shift+esc, Processes tab, right-click the name of the host, go to set priority and set it a little higher.

**dj_stick** · Nov 8, 2005, 06:23 AM

also set priority for background services in the system control panel

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_stick

also set priority for background services in the system control panel

do i set the system priorities higher or lower?

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 06:33 AM

also i would like to mention that i had dleleted all of the plugins i was using inside of live to see iff that was the problem but i get the same result.

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 07:05 AM

i set system to background services and made the priority realtime :P
no luck

thomasabarnes · Nov 8, 2005, 07:07 AM

If youre using Windows XP, you can see this guide for optimizing Win XP for Audio Programs: http://www.musicxp.net

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 01:21 PM

eeeeek
now i remembber why i dont use the tweaks on this site!!!
oh well i will have to make a sacrafice.
goodbye count dracula windows theme

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 01:51 PM

windows runs faster but that did nothing for my latency.

any other suggestions?

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 02:17 PM

im down to ten ms. thanks but thats still way too high that's still way too high. any suggestions?

TravelRec. · Nov 8, 2005, 02:28 PM

What is your sequencer - ware?!

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 02:40 PM

abelton live and fl studio. ware as in warez?

ummm no!!!

anyone have any useful questions?

laserbeak · Nov 8, 2005, 03:13 PM

this i s a great card but im starting to think i might need more of a powerful one in order to get lower latency. no offense of course!
what latency is everyone else acheiving when recording into asio?

Russ · Nov 8, 2005, 10:05 PM

I do not think that your card would make all that much of a difference. I think your performance (as far as Asio goes) would be more dependant on your system (CPU, Memory, OS configuration, etc).

Try optimizing your system.
Disable any unused Asio inputs in you host software (use only what you need during that session).
Try the different Sync methods in the kX Asio control panel to see if any of them work better for you.

thomasabarnes · Nov 8, 2005, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laserbeak

abelton live and fl studio. ware as in warez?

ummm no!!!

anyone have any useful questions?

I think TravelRec meant ware as in what software are you using for music production. Sequencers are software, you know?

I have an Audigy and I get 8ms with 4 softsynths. If I use soundfonts loaded into kX synth, I can use 2.66-4ms latency settings. 8ms is low enough on my system.

laserbeak · Nov 9, 2005, 12:07 AM

yes optimising has seemed to get me down to about 2.7 ms before recording when i close unsused channels but now i have to hault my quest for low latency till i can figure out why my car all of a sudden only let my host detect the left channel of my mixer.

sorru if i misunder stood you travel!!!

laserbeak · Nov 9, 2005, 01:10 AM

seems that 4ms is working great so far. i guess i will have to settle for this for now till i can find out more about how to tweak my system. thanks guys!!

g-banjo · Nov 10, 2005, 04:10 PM

I used to have similar problems but sorted all by installing a second XP OS on a separate partition then useing XPlite to strip the OS down to the minimum. No internet, nothing unnecessary whatsoever. It works a treat: 2.66 latency is effortless. And everything loads like lightening too.

laserbeak · Nov 10, 2005, 08:29 PM

yeah ive been tempted to do that for some time but i have to do a lot of online collaborations so i dont think that would go too well but there's always something i could take out of windows

g-banjo · Nov 11, 2005, 09:19 AM

If you use a seperate HD for your DATA then it's possible to use the stripped OS just for when latency is critical, like when recording. You can then switch back to the main OS for online stuff etc. It's very handy and the 2nd OS doesn't really take up that much space on your program drive. I guess there are questions of legality with some software but I'd argue that it should certainly be allowed to have two versions of software on the same machine as you're obviously not going to be using them both at the same time.

Nov 8, 2005, 03:25 AM	#1
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	cant acheive latency under 21ms without pops and clicks hi i cant seem to get a low latency out of my ct5760 i have been using 2.00ms perfectly for playback and loved it but if i try to set up an asio track the latency jumps through the roof and i get the traditonal pop and click unless i set the latency to well over 21ms wich is bad for me cause most of the things i do is in realtime. the onlything that im recording that has and dsp fx is the line wich uses the dynamics processor and the drum machine limiter patch. any suggestions?

Nov 8, 2005, 07:07 AM	#7
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Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	I don't know if it will help but try to increase the priority of the process of the host. ctrl+shift+esc, Processes tab, right-click the name of the host, go to set priority and set it a little higher.

Nov 8, 2005, 06:33 AM	Thread Starter #5
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	also i would like to mention that i had dleleted all of the plugins i was using inside of live to see iff that was the problem but i get the same result.

Nov 8, 2005, 07:05 AM	Thread Starter #6
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	i set system to background services and made the priority realtime :P no luck

Nov 8, 2005, 01:21 PM	Thread Starter #8
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	eeeeek now i remembber why i dont use the tweaks on this site!!! oh well i will have to make a sacrafice. goodbye count dracula windows theme

Nov 8, 2005, 01:51 PM	Thread Starter #9
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	windows runs faster but that did nothing for my latency. any other suggestions?

Nov 8, 2005, 02:17 PM	Thread Starter #10
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	im down to ten ms. thanks but thats still way too high that's still way too high. any suggestions?

Nov 8, 2005, 02:40 PM	Thread Starter #12
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	abelton live and fl studio. ware as in warez? ummm no!!! anyone have any useful questions?

Nov 8, 2005, 03:13 PM	Thread Starter #13
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	this i s a great card but im starting to think i might need more of a powerful one in order to get lower latency. no offense of course! what latency is everyone else acheiving when recording into asio?

Nov 8, 2005, 10:05 PM	#14
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	I do not think that your card would make all that much of a difference. I think your performance (as far as Asio goes) would be more dependant on your system (CPU, Memory, OS configuration, etc). Try optimizing your system. Disable any unused Asio inputs in you host software (use only what you need during that session). Try the different Sync methods in the kX Asio control panel to see if any of them work better for you.

Nov 9, 2005, 12:07 AM	Thread Starter #16
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	yes optimising has seemed to get me down to about 2.7 ms before recording when i close unsused channels but now i have to hault my quest for low latency till i can figure out why my car all of a sudden only let my host detect the left channel of my mixer. sorru if i misunder stood you travel!!!

Nov 9, 2005, 01:10 AM	Thread Starter #17
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	seems that 4ms is working great so far. i guess i will have to settle for this for now till i can find out more about how to tweak my system. thanks guys!!

Nov 10, 2005, 04:10 PM	#18
g-banjo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I used to have similar problems but sorted all by installing a second XP OS on a separate partition then useing XPlite to strip the OS down to the minimum. No internet, nothing unnecessary whatsoever. It works a treat: 2.66 latency is effortless. And everything loads like lightening too.

Nov 10, 2005, 08:29 PM	Thread Starter #19
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	yeah ive been tempted to do that for some time but i have to do a lot of online collaborations so i dont think that would go too well but there's always something i could take out of windows

Nov 11, 2005, 09:19 AM	#20
g-banjo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	If you use a seperate HD for your DATA then it's possible to use the stripped OS just for when latency is critical, like when recording. You can then switch back to the main OS for online stuff etc. It's very handy and the 2nd OS doesn't really take up that much space on your program drive. I guess there are questions of legality with some software but I'd argue that it should certainly be allowed to have two versions of software on the same machine as you're obviously not going to be using them both at the same time.