how to? 2 independent stereo output + headphones

jgustavo · Dec 16, 2005, 12:59 PM

Hello
what I want it is:
front output to stereo speakers, with winamp, games, windows sounds
rear output to stereo speakers in tv, with bsplayer
headphones clone the front output with independent volume

so that I can listen the sounds of Windows in the speakers of the PC or the headphones, and see the films in the TV, with independent sound

I have obtained:

front y headphones independent volume, with "toggle route headphones to center/sub mode"

but can´t route (i don´t know how) bsplayer to rear

If anyone can guide me
I speak spanish, sorry my english
I am new in the KX

thanks

Maddogg6 · Dec 16, 2005, 05:46 PM

what sound card?

jgustavo · Dec 16, 2005, 05:49 PM

audigy2 ZS bulk... but with games, soft, etc

6 jack, firewire, gameport/midi in a bracket
sb0240 10k2 (ac00)

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 06:06 PM

Generally to get independant stereo sources, you would want to connect FxBus directly to epilog (i.e. without xrouting and surrounder) in the DSP window.
i.e.
For the front channels (and I guess your headphones in this case), you would connect FxBus(4/5) directly to the analog front, and center/lfe connections of epilog, and set Windows to use kX Wave(4/5).

For the rear channels, you would connect FxBus(6/7) directly to the analog rear connections of epilog, and set you TV software to use kX Wave(6/7).

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 06:21 PM

BTW: How are you getting sound from your TV card? i.e. How is it connected to your soundcard? I do not have a TV card, but I was just thinking about it, and I guess that you are probably using the line in or something similair on your soundcard, in which case you would set that part up differently.

jgustavo · Dec 16, 2005, 06:29 PM

amm, not a tv card
a vga card with tv out conected to TV monitor

I want:

front >> pc speakers (vga monitor)
rear >> tv monitor sound (tv monitor image)
subwofer/voice >> headphones (vga monitor)

4/5 >> front and subwofer/voice with independent volume for windows general sound
6/7 >> rear for bsplayer

I want:
see video in tv with audio from the pc
AND
listing mp3 in monitor with headphones and/or pc speaker

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 06:32 PM

Ok, then if I understand you correctly, I think the setup I mentioned previously is what your want. I am not sure what bsplayer is, but you would want to set that to use kX Wave(6/7) and everything else to use kX Wave(4/5) .

jgustavo · Dec 16, 2005, 07:24 PM

that is:
in kx dsp:
clear
I add "Fxbus" and "epilog"
connect:

fxbus >>> epilog

fxbus4 >>> analog front left
fxbus5 >>> analog front right
fxbus6 >>> analog rear left
fxbus7 >>> analog rear right
fxbus4 >>> analog center
fxbus5 >>> analog subwofer

in kX mixer master check "toggle route headphones to center/subwoofer"

or something more?

thanks

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 07:41 PM

Yeah that is basically it, other than setting the software(s) to use the correct kX driver (wave device) for playback. And of course you can add other stuff in there if you like (i.e. eq, etc). Also, there might be betters way to do it with an audigy2 card (i.e. for better sound... I have a Live! card, so I am not all that familair with some of the audigy2 specific stuff, like WaveHQ, etc.), but that is the basic setup for individual stereo sources (where you want the headphones to have the same signal as the front channels, but seperate volume).

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 07:59 PM

BTW: The Master Volume slider in kx mixer is still going to effect the volume of all the outputs, so you would want to set the Master Volume at some level, and adjust the volumes for the seperate channels individually. Also, the Swap Front and Rear setting (if you are using it) should reflect how you have your speakers connected to the card.

jgustavo · Dec 16, 2005, 08:08 PM

It's work

I see, the master is linked to keyboard
the 3 front, rear and headphones are linked to master
that's I wanted, yuuupppyyyyyy

thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks

but...

can create keyboard shortcut to rear, front and headphones volumen?
3 set shortcut, of course

and now I try to configure the in
thanks

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgustavo

can create keyboard shortcut to rear, front and headphones volumen?
3 set shortcut, of course

Possible yes, but it is not easy.
You would basically have to program it yourself (using VC++ and the kX SDK), or create some script to work in conjunction with kxctrl (kX Console) to do it.

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 08:46 PM

Here is an example of a script (.vbs) to change the analog front volume. I threw it together pretty quickly (a while ago, and I am not a VB Script expert or anything). so there are probably better ways to do it, but maybe it will help you come up with something. Basically it takes a single command line argument "+" or "-", so you would bind one key that calls the script using the first argument, and another key that calls the same script with the second argument (to increase/decrease volume... BTW: you would not want to hold down the keys). Similair scripts could be used for the other volumes (or this script could be modified to take additional command line arguments for the other channels, etc).

Code:

Set objArgs = WScript.Arguments
Set objFSO = Wscript.CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set objShell = Wscript.CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
objName = objFSO.GetTempName
objTempFile = objName
objShell.Run "cmd /c kxctrl -gg 9 8007 >" & objTempFile, 0, True
Set objTextFile = objFSO.OpenTextFile(objTempFile, 1)
strLeft = objTextFile.ReadLine
strLeft = Mid(strLeft, 11)
objTextFile.Close
objFSO.DeleteFile(objTempFile)

If objArgs(0) = "+" Then
	strLeft = CLng("&h" & strLeft)
	If strLeft = 0 Then
		dB = -96
	Else
		dB = (20 * (Log((strLeft / 2^31) * 4) / Log(10))) + 0.5
	End If
	If db > 12 Then
		strLeft = 2147483647		
	Else
		strLeft = (10 ^ (dB / 20) / 4) * 2^31		
	End If		
End If

If objArgs(0) = "-" Then
	strLeft = CLng("&h" & strLeft)
	If strLeft = 0 Then
		dB = -96
	Else
		dB = (20 * (Log((strLeft / 2^31) * 4) / Log(10))) - 0.5
	End If
	If db < -95.5 Then
		strLeft = 0		
	Else
		strLeft = (10 ^ (dB / 20) / 4) * 2^31		
	End If		
End If

strLeft = Hex(strLeft)

objShell.Run "cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8007 " & strLeft, 0, False
objShell.Run "cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8008 " & strLeft, 0, False

You would want to change the '9' in the following commands to match the plugin number assigned to epilog in the DSP window (The 8007 and 8008 are the registers used by epilog for the Analog Front volume):
cmd /c kxctrl -gg 9 8007[color=#000000][color=#dd0000]
[/color][/color]cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8007
cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8008

jgustavo · Dec 16, 2005, 08:53 PM

wow, that is what I call support, the others are trivialities. ("eso es lo que yo llamo soporte, lo demas son tonterias", puede que sea un regionalismo y no se entienda. i speak spanish as primary languaje)
I will see if I have something of time and I prove it.
thanks again

Russ · Dec 16, 2005, 09:03 PM

BTW: You will not see the sliders moving in kx mixer as you press the keys, because kx mixer will not redraw itself right away (also, the script use 0.5dB increments), but if you close kxmixer and re-open it (or change pages, etc), forcing it to redraw itself, you will see the change.

jgustavo · Dec 17, 2005, 12:57 AM

I have proven with FXmix, gain, EQ 10G with success. it's beatiful
but I cannot listen midis...
how to route midi?

Maddogg6 · Dec 17, 2005, 02:16 AM

MIDI is on FXBuss 2/3 - and the reverb & chorus (CC# 91 & 93) are 'sent' to FXBuss 13 & 14 (?IIRC?)

Russ · Dec 17, 2005, 02:19 AM

Midi is on FxBus(2/3) by default. If you want to add midi, you will have to use one of the mixer plugins to mix it with whichever other sources are going to the output that you want to use.

i.e.
FxBus(2/3) and FxBus(4/5) -> Stereo Mix -> epilog

<edit>
I just saw Maddogg6's reply. Yeah, if you want to use the Midi CC controllers to adjust the Reverb and Chorus amounts then the setup starts to get complicated. You are better off setting up another DSP configuration for that, and just load the different configs for different needs, etc.

Russ · Dec 17, 2005, 02:40 AM

If you want a more general setup, that works similair to your current setup but with midi, etc, than you would probably want to start with the default DSP and then make the following changes:
Set Surrounder to 2.0 mode.
Disconnect the connections from FxBus(6/7) to xrouting and connect it directly to the Analog Rear channels of epilog (replacing the connections from Surrounder+).
Disconnect the connections from Surrounder+ Center/LFE to epilog, and instead double route the connections from the Surrounder+ fL/fR to Analog front left/right, and center/lfe.
Set Windows to use either kX Wave(0/1) or (4/5), and set the software that you want to send to the rear speakers to use kX Wave(6/7).

jgustavo · Dec 17, 2005, 02:47 AM

ok, I do this, but, no sound in midi

FXbus >>> FXMix

fxbus2 >>> in2_l
fxbus3 >>> in2_r
fxbus4 >>> in0_l
fxbus5 >>> in0_r
fxbus6 >>> in1_l
fxbus7 >>> in1_r

FXmix >>> epilog
outl >>> analog front left
outr >>> analog front right
outl >>> headphones left
outr >>> headphones right

FXbus >>> epilog

fxbus4 >>> rear left
fxbus5 >>> rear right

fxmix all 100%

control panel, audio, audio, midi = kX synth2 SB0240 10k2
winamp, windows commander no sound in midi
winamp in "asignador de microsoft" no sound
winamp in "sint SW tabla de ondas GS" sound ok

jgustavo · Dec 17, 2005, 02:49 AM

Ok, russ, I try this

Russ · Dec 17, 2005, 03:00 AM

BTW: Do you have midi sound under the default setup? It sounds like you may not have any soundfonts loaded. Also, it should be pointed out the the kX Synth's use FxBus(2/3), not the software synths (i.e. MS SW Synth). The soft-synths generally use FxBus(0/1), but I am not sure if or how they are effected by Windows settings (I would guess that they would use Windows settings, but I cannot be sure).

jgustavo · Dec 17, 2005, 03:05 AM

yes, under default setup I have midi sound
In my simple configuration what is wrong?

Russ · Dec 17, 2005, 03:23 AM

I am not sure what you are trying to do with your sample setup, and now I am getting a little confused about which signal you wanted to go to where.
Wasn't it bsplayer to the rear speakers and everything else to the front speakers and headphones (but with seperate volume for headphones)?
In any case, there is no reason why your sample setup should not work if all the volumes in FxMix are at 100% (I am just not sure it is the routing you wanted (i.e. under that setup you are sending FxBus(4/5) to all the speakers), but it should work).

Are you sure the midi synth volume in kx mixer is turned up enough to hear it? (as well as the individual channel volumes (and not muted (inf)), etc)

jgustavo · Dec 17, 2005, 02:14 PM

Jeje, Russ, I will try to explain to you
my pc, apart from games, internet, etc, acts like "media center"
it is connected to the tv (28"), and I send him video (mpg4, divx, xvid, etc) and dvd, the sound comes out from rear
I have some speakers 30W RMS 2.0 (studio, pro) the sound comes out from front
and also some very good headphones (pro). they come out from center/subwoofer
the tv is at 2Mts of the pc
video is usually sent to the tv at the same time that is playing games
then I believe that you already understand the problem
usually, when I play games, shipment the sound from front, but, if at the same time they are looking at video, I am not able to, because one doesn't listen neither one, neither the other one.
then, I diminish the volume to front, and I go up the headphones.
in that way, I play games, and they come video without bothering us
also, sometimes, I see video in the vga monitor, in a window, while they look at cabletv in the tv
at this time I have to be able to direct the channel 6/7 to the front or headphones

that is to say:
4/5 arrive to headphones and front, but not to rear
6/7 arrive to rear, but in some case, from fxmix in dsp, I have to be able to send it to front, and headphones

all this of up it is indispensable for my
with my basic configuration it works perfect, and it is the reason for which I use kX driver instead of those of creative.

faith of misprints:
in my previous one post I wrote bad, they are many fxbux and other

fxbus4 >>> rear left / /no is correct
fxbus5 >>> rear right / /no is correct
it is not correct

in fact it is
fxbus6 >>> rear left / / it is correct
fxbus7 >>> rear right / / it is correct

it would be this way:

FXbus >>> FXMix

fxbus2 >>> in2_l
fxbus3 >>> in2_r
fxbus4 >>> in0_l
fxbus5 >>> in0_r
fxbus6 >>> in1_l
fxbus7 >>> in1_r

FXmix >>> epilog
outl >>> analog front left
outr >>> analog front right
outl >>> headphones left
outr >>> headphones right

FXbus >>> epilog

fxbus6 >>> rear left
fxbus7 >>> rear right

---
but for some reason, connecting fxbus3 and fxbus4 to fxmix
I don't have midi sound
even if I connect fxbus3 and fxbus4 directly to front in epilog, neither I have midi sound
it should lack some module to load, or something

in last case, if I need midi, I can load the basic configuration
I am you very grateful for your help
I already have shame of to ask and to bother so much

Russ · Dec 17, 2005, 06:03 PM

Ok, there is no reason why you should not have midi sound using that setup.
Which midi synth are you using?

Quote:

control panel, audio, audio, midi = kX synth2 SB0240 10k2
winamp, windows commander no sound in midi
winamp in "asignador de microsoft" no sound
winamp in "sint SW tabla de ondas GS" sound ok

I am not sure what you mean by the above, but it looks like your soft-synth works, but others do not?
Double check to make sure that your have Soundfonts loaded in kx mixer (kX does not include any soundfonts, so you would need to download some from the internet or use the ones that came with your card (on the Creative Labs installation CD), and load them into kx mixer (on the Soundfont page)). I am just not sure why it would work with the default configuration, and not this one, if that was the case...

jgustavo · Dec 17, 2005, 07:14 PM

Jeje
I load a soundfont .SF2 from the audigy2 cd and now work

Russ · Dec 17, 2005, 08:01 PM

Glad you got it working

Dec 16, 2005, 12:59 PM	#1
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	how to? 2 independent stereo output + headphones Hello what I want it is: front output to stereo speakers, with winamp, games, windows sounds rear output to stereo speakers in tv, with bsplayer headphones clone the front output with independent volume so that I can listen the sounds of Windows in the speakers of the PC or the headphones, and see the films in the TV, with independent sound I have obtained: front y headphones independent volume, with "toggle route headphones to center/sub mode" but can´t route (i don´t know how) bsplayer to rear If anyone can guide me I speak spanish, sorry my english I am new in the KX thanks

Dec 16, 2005, 08:46 PM	#13
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Here is an example of a script (.vbs) to change the analog front volume. I threw it together pretty quickly (a while ago, and I am not a VB Script expert or anything). so there are probably better ways to do it, but maybe it will help you come up with something. Basically it takes a single command line argument "+" or "-", so you would bind one key that calls the script using the first argument, and another key that calls the same script with the second argument (to increase/decrease volume... BTW: you would not want to hold down the keys). Similair scripts could be used for the other volumes (or this script could be modified to take additional command line arguments for the other channels, etc). Code: Set objArgs = WScript.Arguments Set objFSO = Wscript.CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") Set objShell = Wscript.CreateObject("Wscript.Shell") objName = objFSO.GetTempName objTempFile = objName objShell.Run "cmd /c kxctrl -gg 9 8007 >" & objTempFile, 0, True Set objTextFile = objFSO.OpenTextFile(objTempFile, 1) strLeft = objTextFile.ReadLine strLeft = Mid(strLeft, 11) objTextFile.Close objFSO.DeleteFile(objTempFile) If objArgs(0) = "+" Then strLeft = CLng("&h" & strLeft) If strLeft = 0 Then dB = -96 Else dB = (20 * (Log((strLeft / 2^31) * 4) / Log(10))) + 0.5 End If If db > 12 Then strLeft = 2147483647 Else strLeft = (10 ^ (dB / 20) / 4) * 2^31 End If End If If objArgs(0) = "-" Then strLeft = CLng("&h" & strLeft) If strLeft = 0 Then dB = -96 Else dB = (20 * (Log((strLeft / 2^31) * 4) / Log(10))) - 0.5 End If If db < -95.5 Then strLeft = 0 Else strLeft = (10 ^ (dB / 20) / 4) * 2^31 End If End If strLeft = Hex(strLeft) objShell.Run "cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8007 " & strLeft, 0, False objShell.Run "cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8008 " & strLeft, 0, False You would want to change the '9' in the following commands to match the plugin number assigned to epilog in the DSP window (The 8007 and 8008 are the registers used by epilog for the Analog Front volume): cmd /c kxctrl -gg 9 8007[color=#000000][color=#dd0000] [/color][/color]cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8007 cmd /c kxctrl -sg 9 8008 Last edited by Russ; Dec 31, 2010 at 09:41 PM. Reason: Change PHP tags to CODE tags

Dec 17, 2005, 02:19 AM	#18
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Midi is on FxBus(2/3) by default. If you want to add midi, you will have to use one of the mixer plugins to mix it with whichever other sources are going to the output that you want to use. i.e. FxBus(2/3) and FxBus(4/5) -> Stereo Mix -> epilog <edit> I just saw Maddogg6's reply. Yeah, if you want to use the Midi CC controllers to adjust the Reverb and Chorus amounts then the setup starts to get complicated. You are better off setting up another DSP configuration for that, and just load the different configs for different needs, etc. Last edited by Russ; Dec 17, 2005 at 02:30 AM.

Dec 17, 2005, 03:23 AM	#24
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	I am not sure what you are trying to do with your sample setup, and now I am getting a little confused about which signal you wanted to go to where. Wasn't it bsplayer to the rear speakers and everything else to the front speakers and headphones (but with seperate volume for headphones)? In any case, there is no reason why your sample setup should not work if all the volumes in FxMix are at 100% (I am just not sure it is the routing you wanted (i.e. under that setup you are sending FxBus(4/5) to all the speakers), but it should work). Are you sure the midi synth volume in kx mixer is turned up enough to hear it? (as well as the individual channel volumes (and not muted (inf)), etc) Last edited by Russ; Dec 17, 2005 at 03:37 AM.

Dec 16, 2005, 05:46 PM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	what sound card?

Dec 16, 2005, 05:49 PM	Thread Starter #3
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	audigy2 ZS bulk... but with games, soft, etc 6 jack, firewire, gameport/midi in a bracket sb0240 10k2 (ac00)

Dec 16, 2005, 06:06 PM	#4
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Generally to get independant stereo sources, you would want to connect FxBus directly to epilog (i.e. without xrouting and surrounder) in the DSP window. i.e. For the front channels (and I guess your headphones in this case), you would connect FxBus(4/5) directly to the analog front, and center/lfe connections of epilog, and set Windows to use kX Wave(4/5). For the rear channels, you would connect FxBus(6/7) directly to the analog rear connections of epilog, and set you TV software to use kX Wave(6/7).

Dec 16, 2005, 06:21 PM	#5
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	BTW: How are you getting sound from your TV card? i.e. How is it connected to your soundcard? I do not have a TV card, but I was just thinking about it, and I guess that you are probably using the line in or something similair on your soundcard, in which case you would set that part up differently.

Dec 16, 2005, 06:29 PM	Thread Starter #6
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	amm, not a tv card a vga card with tv out conected to TV monitor I want: front >> pc speakers (vga monitor) rear >> tv monitor sound (tv monitor image) subwofer/voice >> headphones (vga monitor) 4/5 >> front and subwofer/voice with independent volume for windows general sound 6/7 >> rear for bsplayer I want: see video in tv with audio from the pc AND listing mp3 in monitor with headphones and/or pc speaker

Dec 16, 2005, 06:32 PM	#7
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Ok, then if I understand you correctly, I think the setup I mentioned previously is what your want. I am not sure what bsplayer is, but you would want to set that to use kX Wave(6/7) and everything else to use kX Wave(4/5) .

Dec 16, 2005, 07:24 PM	Thread Starter #8
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	that is: in kx dsp: clear I add "Fxbus" and "epilog" connect: fxbus >>> epilog fxbus4 >>> analog front left fxbus5 >>> analog front right fxbus6 >>> analog rear left fxbus7 >>> analog rear right fxbus4 >>> analog center fxbus5 >>> analog subwofer in kX mixer master check "toggle route headphones to center/subwoofer" or something more? thanks

Dec 16, 2005, 07:41 PM	#9
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Yeah that is basically it, other than setting the software(s) to use the correct kX driver (wave device) for playback. And of course you can add other stuff in there if you like (i.e. eq, etc). Also, there might be betters way to do it with an audigy2 card (i.e. for better sound... I have a Live! card, so I am not all that familair with some of the audigy2 specific stuff, like WaveHQ, etc.), but that is the basic setup for individual stereo sources (where you want the headphones to have the same signal as the front channels, but seperate volume).

Dec 16, 2005, 07:59 PM	#10
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	BTW: The Master Volume slider in kx mixer is still going to effect the volume of all the outputs, so you would want to set the Master Volume at some level, and adjust the volumes for the seperate channels individually. Also, the Swap Front and Rear setting (if you are using it) should reflect how you have your speakers connected to the card.

Dec 16, 2005, 08:08 PM	Thread Starter #11
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	It's work I see, the master is linked to keyboard the 3 front, rear and headphones are linked to master that's I wanted, yuuupppyyyyyy thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks but... can create keyboard shortcut to rear, front and headphones volumen? 3 set shortcut, of course and now I try to configure the in thanks

Dec 16, 2005, 08:53 PM	Thread Starter #14
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	wow, that is what I call support, the others are trivialities. ("eso es lo que yo llamo soporte, lo demas son tonterias", puede que sea un regionalismo y no se entienda. i speak spanish as primary languaje) I will see if I have something of time and I prove it. thanks again

Dec 16, 2005, 09:03 PM	#15
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	BTW: You will not see the sliders moving in kx mixer as you press the keys, because kx mixer will not redraw itself right away (also, the script use 0.5dB increments), but if you close kxmixer and re-open it (or change pages, etc), forcing it to redraw itself, you will see the change.

Dec 17, 2005, 12:57 AM	Thread Starter #16
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	I have proven with FXmix, gain, EQ 10G with success. it's beatiful but I cannot listen midis... how to route midi?

Dec 17, 2005, 02:16 AM	#17
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	MIDI is on FXBuss 2/3 - and the reverb & chorus (CC# 91 & 93) are 'sent' to FXBuss 13 & 14 (?IIRC?)

Dec 17, 2005, 02:40 AM	#19
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	If you want a more general setup, that works similair to your current setup but with midi, etc, than you would probably want to start with the default DSP and then make the following changes: Set Surrounder to 2.0 mode. Disconnect the connections from FxBus(6/7) to xrouting and connect it directly to the Analog Rear channels of epilog (replacing the connections from Surrounder+). Disconnect the connections from Surrounder+ Center/LFE to epilog, and instead double route the connections from the Surrounder+ fL/fR to Analog front left/right, and center/lfe. Set Windows to use either kX Wave(0/1) or (4/5), and set the software that you want to send to the rear speakers to use kX Wave(6/7).

Dec 17, 2005, 02:47 AM	Thread Starter #20
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	ok, I do this, but, no sound in midi FXbus >>> FXMix fxbus2 >>> in2_l fxbus3 >>> in2_r fxbus4 >>> in0_l fxbus5 >>> in0_r fxbus6 >>> in1_l fxbus7 >>> in1_r FXmix >>> epilog outl >>> analog front left outr >>> analog front right outl >>> headphones left outr >>> headphones right FXbus >>> epilog fxbus4 >>> rear left fxbus5 >>> rear right fxmix all 100% control panel, audio, audio, midi = kX synth2 SB0240 10k2 winamp, windows commander no sound in midi winamp in "asignador de microsoft" no sound winamp in "sint SW tabla de ondas GS" sound ok

Dec 17, 2005, 02:49 AM	Thread Starter #21
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Ok, russ, I try this

Dec 17, 2005, 03:00 AM	#22
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	BTW: Do you have midi sound under the default setup? It sounds like you may not have any soundfonts loaded. Also, it should be pointed out the the kX Synth's use FxBus(2/3), not the software synths (i.e. MS SW Synth). The soft-synths generally use FxBus(0/1), but I am not sure if or how they are effected by Windows settings (I would guess that they would use Windows settings, but I cannot be sure).

Dec 17, 2005, 03:05 AM	Thread Starter #23
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	yes, under default setup I have midi sound In my simple configuration what is wrong?

Dec 17, 2005, 02:14 PM	Thread Starter #25
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Jeje, Russ, I will try to explain to you my pc, apart from games, internet, etc, acts like "media center" it is connected to the tv (28"), and I send him video (mpg4, divx, xvid, etc) and dvd, the sound comes out from rear I have some speakers 30W RMS 2.0 (studio, pro) the sound comes out from front and also some very good headphones (pro). they come out from center/subwoofer the tv is at 2Mts of the pc video is usually sent to the tv at the same time that is playing games then I believe that you already understand the problem usually, when I play games, shipment the sound from front, but, if at the same time they are looking at video, I am not able to, because one doesn't listen neither one, neither the other one. then, I diminish the volume to front, and I go up the headphones. in that way, I play games, and they come video without bothering us also, sometimes, I see video in the vga monitor, in a window, while they look at cabletv in the tv at this time I have to be able to direct the channel 6/7 to the front or headphones that is to say: 4/5 arrive to headphones and front, but not to rear 6/7 arrive to rear, but in some case, from fxmix in dsp, I have to be able to send it to front, and headphones all this of up it is indispensable for my with my basic configuration it works perfect, and it is the reason for which I use kX driver instead of those of creative. faith of misprints: in my previous one post I wrote bad, they are many fxbux and other fxbus4 >>> rear left / /no is correct fxbus5 >>> rear right / /no is correct it is not correct in fact it is fxbus6 >>> rear left / / it is correct fxbus7 >>> rear right / / it is correct it would be this way: FXbus >>> FXMix fxbus2 >>> in2_l fxbus3 >>> in2_r fxbus4 >>> in0_l fxbus5 >>> in0_r fxbus6 >>> in1_l fxbus7 >>> in1_r FXmix >>> epilog outl >>> analog front left outr >>> analog front right outl >>> headphones left outr >>> headphones right FXbus >>> epilog fxbus6 >>> rear left fxbus7 >>> rear right --- but for some reason, connecting fxbus3 and fxbus4 to fxmix I don't have midi sound even if I connect fxbus3 and fxbus4 directly to front in epilog, neither I have midi sound it should lack some module to load, or something in last case, if I need midi, I can load the basic configuration I am you very grateful for your help I already have shame of to ask and to bother so much

Dec 17, 2005, 07:14 PM	Thread Starter #27
jgustavo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Jeje I load a soundfont .SF2 from the audigy2 cd and now work

Dec 17, 2005, 08:01 PM	#28
Russ HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,563 Rep Power: 62	Glad you got it working