24 bit question!

radsoul · Jan 4, 2006, 05:00 PM

I use Audigy 2 zs platinum pro, kx 3538i, and trying to get some 24 bit sound!
I tried it in Sonar 5 using WDM (wavehq input, output), but for everything I try Sonar tells me that my card dont support current audio format!
Does KX support 24 bit, and is there possible to record more iputs at once via WDM?

Thanks!

garyk · Jan 9, 2006, 01:20 PM

Yes, I have the same question. I use N-Track and will be recording with their 24-bit version, I would like to try these drivers but if they do not support 24-bit yet then I will stick with the stock drivers.

Rogacz · Jan 9, 2006, 02:09 PM

kX at the moment does not support 24-bit recording with any driver.

thomasabarnes · Jan 9, 2006, 02:25 PM

I only have an Audigy, but from reading here, It's my understanding that kX officially only supports 24 bit playback with Audigy 2 sound cards. I think you would have to use ASIO mode to have the ability to record multiple inputs. There is no official 24 bit/96 kHz recording support currently with the kX Project Audio Driver in ASIO driver mode.

However, I have read posts that entails information that 24 or 32 Bit/96 recording is possible for users using the 3538h version of the kX Project Audio Driver and an Audigy 2 ZS using the Wave HQ Device. See this thread for information about this deal: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...highlight=Wave

Make sue you read the whole thread, especially post #2 and post #17.

Max M. · Jan 9, 2006, 02:47 PM

>kX at the moment does not support 24-bit recording with any driver.

that's not true - kX does support 24-bit recording via MME/WDM WaveHQ port.
(for all A2 cards - 96kHz since ver. 35 and 48..192 kHz since ver. 37)

> I try Sonar tells me that my card dont support current audio format!

Some audio apps use 24-bit format incompatible with kX (different pack/alignment) - kX uses "24 (32-bit aligned)" or just "32-bit" representation (in Sonar for example choose one of "4 bytes" or "32-bit" formats instead of "3 bytes" one)

thomasabarnes · Jan 9, 2006, 02:51 PM

Oh lookie who's here! Hiya Max M.

Thanks for the information!

radsoul · Jan 11, 2006, 01:08 AM

I tried everything to get 24 bit/96 khz via WDM (HQ Wave) , most of DSP settigs, everything
I was read in this forum ... but still can't get to work in Sonar, it tells me that HQ Wave is not supported!
Some peoples said that this doesn't works, some that works!
Don't know does KX really support 24 bit recording!
I want to use my Audigy 2 zs platinum pro for 24 bit recording with KX drivers but I still
don't know is it possible via WDM!
Thanks!

thomasabarnes · Jan 11, 2006, 01:14 AM

Did you read the thread I gave a link to?

Post# 2
It is possible:

- Plug your source in Line in,
- Enable AC97 <--> I2S redirection (Easy when using 3538h, chechk inputs to be sure),
- Select I2S 1 as P16V Recording Source,
- In your audio application, select Wave HQ device, and use 24bits padded to 32bits audio format...
__________________

Post #17
Hi,
the thresd is old i know.
but i had the same problem and found the reason for me:
u must select wavehq device for playing and recording also in the windows audio control panel.
hope this could help B.p.M.

Did you try all of this?

And note Post #5 in this thread?

Rogacz · Jan 11, 2006, 03:50 PM

Sorry for wrong information then.
I've been using kX for long time til I got my X-Fi and I was pretty sure it doasn't allow to record 24-bit stuff in any way.
I must have missed something or read too many 24/96 ASIO statements :-)

Sture · Jan 11, 2006, 03:55 PM

Hi Rogacz,
are you happy with the X-Fi recording? Suppose it does true 24-bit ASIO also at 96kHz.

Kind regards,
Sture

Rogacz · Jan 11, 2006, 04:09 PM

I haven't tried 24-bit recording yet, but yes - it does it up to 96 KHz.

I've got some stuff recorded live on 1 mic at 16 bit though, e-mail me or jabber if you're interrested

(rogacz87@go2.pl; rogacz@jabber.org)

Jan 9, 2006, 02:09 PM	#3
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	kX at the moment does not support 24-bit recording with any driver. __________________

Jan 9, 2006, 02:25 PM	#4
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I only have an Audigy, but from reading here, It's my understanding that kX officially only supports 24 bit playback with Audigy 2 sound cards. I think you would have to use ASIO mode to have the ability to record multiple inputs. There is no official 24 bit/96 kHz recording support currently with the kX Project Audio Driver in ASIO driver mode. However, I have read posts that entails information that 24 or 32 Bit/96 recording is possible for users using the 3538h version of the kX Project Audio Driver and an Audigy 2 ZS using the Wave HQ Device. See this thread for information about this deal: http://driverheaven.net/showthread.p...highlight=Wave Make sue you read the whole thread, especially post #2 and post #17. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jan 9, 2006 at 02:47 PM.

Jan 9, 2006, 02:51 PM	#6
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Oh lookie who's here! Hiya Max M. Thanks for the information! __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jan 11, 2006, 01:08 AM	Thread Starter #7
radsoul DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	WDM HQ mode I tried everything to get 24 bit/96 khz via WDM (HQ Wave) , most of DSP settigs, everything I was read in this forum ... but still can't get to work in Sonar, it tells me that HQ Wave is not supported! Some peoples said that this doesn't works, some that works! Don't know does KX really support 24 bit recording! I want to use my Audigy 2 zs platinum pro for 24 bit recording with KX drivers but I still don't know is it possible via WDM! Thanks!

Jan 11, 2006, 01:14 AM	#8
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Did you read the thread I gave a link to? Post# 2 It is possible: - Plug your source in Line in, - Enable AC97 <--> I2S redirection (Easy when using 3538h, chechk inputs to be sure), - Select I2S 1 as P16V Recording Source, - In your audio application, select Wave HQ device, and use 24bits padded to 32bits audio format... __________________ Post #17 Hi, the thresd is old i know. but i had the same problem and found the reason for me: u must select wavehq device for playing and recording also in the windows audio control panel. hope this could help B.p.M. Did you try all of this? And note Post #5 in this thread? __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jan 12, 2006 at 10:03 AM.

Jan 4, 2006, 05:00 PM	#1
radsoul DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	24 bit question! I use Audigy 2 zs platinum pro, kx 3538i, and trying to get some 24 bit sound! I tried it in Sonar 5 using WDM (wavehq input, output), but for everything I try Sonar tells me that my card dont support current audio format! Does KX support 24 bit, and is there possible to record more iputs at once via WDM? Thanks!

Jan 9, 2006, 01:20 PM	#2
garyk DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Yes, I have the same question. I use N-Track and will be recording with their 24-bit version, I would like to try these drivers but if they do not support 24-bit yet then I will stick with the stock drivers.

Jan 9, 2006, 02:47 PM	#5
Max M. h/h member-shmember Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 69	>kX at the moment does not support 24-bit recording with any driver. that's not true - kX does support 24-bit recording via MME/WDM WaveHQ port. (for all A2 cards - 96kHz since ver. 35 and 48..192 kHz since ver. 37) > I try Sonar tells me that my card dont support current audio format! Some audio apps use 24-bit format incompatible with kX (different pack/alignment) - kX uses "24 (32-bit aligned)" or just "32-bit" representation (in Sonar for example choose one of "4 bytes" or "32-bit" formats instead of "3 bytes" one) Last edited by Max M.; Jan 9, 2006 at 02:56 PM.

Jan 11, 2006, 03:50 PM	#9
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Sorry for wrong information then. I've been using kX for long time til I got my X-Fi and I was pretty sure it doasn't allow to record 24-bit stuff in any way. I must have missed something or read too many 24/96 ASIO statements :-) __________________

Jan 11, 2006, 03:55 PM	#10
Sture DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	Hi Rogacz, are you happy with the X-Fi recording? Suppose it does true 24-bit ASIO also at 96kHz. Kind regards, Sture

Jan 11, 2006, 04:09 PM	#11
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	I haven't tried 24-bit recording yet, but yes - it does it up to 96 KHz. I've got some stuff recorded live on 1 mic at 16 bit though, e-mail me or jabber if you're interrested (rogacz87@go2.pl; rogacz@jabber.org)