sonar 4 versus 5?

mrvomit · Jan 13, 2006, 07:44 PM

i would have the chance to upgrade.

How is it with 5 ,better or worst?
Resource hoging? more stable or what?

Maddogg6 · Jan 13, 2006, 08:42 PM

My opinion is:

4 was a bit more stable in some aspect - Like driver selection - in 5 this is gotten 'wierd'
5 IS WAY better for handeling Virtual Busses - also, 5.1 surround mixing has improved over 3rd party plugins compatable with 4.

Sonar in its self has never really been a 'HOG' per say - the nature of DAW is resource intensive - so I take this into consideration.

In all fairness - I havent had too much time to compose in 5 (well, lack of inspiration is more likely) so track time is lower in 5 than 4 also...

I have re-mixed mostly in 5 and not as much record as I did in 4. BUT, the little I have done in 5 is SOLID - eveyr now and again in 4 - a recorded track would not be in sync - IE buffer size seemed to change - Is gone now in 5 - VERY reliable record tracking and keep in sync. I Have had some hardware upgrades also - so its difficult to compare apples to apples directly.

Rewire seems VERY solid with Reason 3. Suprisingly LOW CPU useage for how much horsepower is produced with this combination. My P4 3Ghz can handle a full MIDI posts worth of synths (10-12 soft synths) + Effect automations with < 70% CPU peaks ~ 50% durring playback. Very Impressive - 4 seemd a bit more 'clunkey' with rewire and reason 2.5 - but both have been upgraded...so take that with a grain of salt.

All in all - Id say Sonar 5 is proving to be cakewalks 'typical' upgrade - a few new nice bells and whistles - and few more bugs squashed - and introduction od prolly a few new bugs... Over all - I like 5 better than 4

thomasabarnes · Jan 13, 2006, 09:36 PM

5 is better.

oK, I'll expound a little, just a little,

Pros:

The best and worth while upgrade versions:

I think SONAR 2 was worth the upgrade, and I think SONAR 5 is worth the upgrade. V Vocal and the RXP are more than reason enough to upgrade!

Cons:

The VST support is...well, as veteran VST users convey... the VST support is not native... as some veteran VST uses say... it's laughable.

mrvomit · Jan 14, 2006, 10:23 AM

Vst support of Cakewalk is Historically a Sh**T.Sad to know iut don't change.
I'm having crashes Applyng effect at the moment ,but i can't know if is also driver related
(kx acting strangly)

But..Do YOU have BOTH Sonar 4 "AND" Sonar 5 on the same machine ?
It seems so .

when you install it ,how did you handle in that case?
I figure out Too many program- files "overlapping" in that scenario ,files of S5 interfer-ing with S4.
.I 'm hoping to solve that kind of problem, i search "desperately "stability ,
still dunno if upgrade is a good choice.

But..if is possible to install both on same machine ,i would try out .
In that case ,could You give me advice if you did take some tweaks to do that?

Maddogg6 · Jan 14, 2006, 11:56 AM

just install in seperate directories..

The latest install will be what opens with dbl click etc..

Also - I suspect uninstalling 4 removed some effects common to 4 and 5 - I get 1 or 2 missing now - but maybe they were on 4 and NOT 5 and now Im missing them.. Id have to verify...

thomasabarnes · Jan 14, 2006, 02:10 PM

SONAR 1,2,3,4,and 5 can be installed on same OS, technically. I dont like to do that cause some common files are shared, like MIDI FX plugins, for instance. Sonar 4 has it's own MIDI FX plugin look, but when you install S5 on the same OS, when you use S4 and open MIDI FX plugin, it will be the new MIDI plugin from S5 that opens. It is those kinds of things that happen when S4 and S5 gets installed on the same OS.

Still if you can stand that, you can install both on the same OS. When you do, just select to import your settings of S4, when you install S5. Another thing is that I think the smooth MIDI performance I had in S4 got messed up when I imported the settings when installing S5 (it may just be in my mind). So, what I do is have S4 on my gaming partition (I have 2 parttions with Win XP installed), and I have S5 on the other partition. That works OK. And MIDI performance in S5 is great! I think the best of any SONAR version, and quantze works great in S5 for me!

@Maddogg6:

SONAR 5 doesnt install all the FX by default. You have to put in the S5 installation DVD and an do a custom install and select the FX you want installed. This is probably why you dont see some FX installed.

Maddogg6 · Jan 14, 2006, 05:29 PM

@Thomas:

I normally - as a general rule - always do 'custom' install - so I would have selected all the extras except tutorials maybe or loop beats. But, I could be wrong - The one Aplitube LE I think got removed from un-installing 4 - maybe 5 seen it existed and NOT installed it would make sense. ? Its not a biggy - but something to be cutioned with - just needed to re-install 5 after removing 4. Not sure now if Amplitube LE comes with 5 - maybe it was dropped - Id have to look closer at the sonar 5 install again to be sure now.

mrvomit · Jan 14, 2006, 08:49 PM

uhm i have a blank 19 Gb partition.
Never installed 2 Os on the same boot (i have installed just on 2 different Hds ).
Dunno how to handle in a "clean way " ,but i would try it definetely :

sonar 4 + 5 in one partition ,sonar 5 in the clean one could be ok ? .

What IF one partition has 64 Bit Os?
can it read /32 bit applications ?And read also the other 32 partitions?
I don have a Xp 64 edition ,but i could think to try out if is a benefit with it.

Maddogg6 · Jan 14, 2006, 11:53 PM

well - KX wont work on 64 bit OS AFAIK.

thomasabarnes · Jan 15, 2006, 01:24 AM

If you install Win XP on a HDD with 2 partitions, Windows will have a selection for you to select between the 2. The one on top is the last Windows you install. To install, set your BIOS to have CD Rom be the 1st Boot device, put the Windows CD in and Restart the PC. Follow the on screen instruction to press a key (spacebar I think) to boot from CD. If you want to install with an ACPI configuration, you wont have to do anything.

"If you do decide to install as a "Standard PC", then follow the steps below.

Firstly, the entry Plug and Play OS in your motherboard's BIOS should be set to 'NO'.

During installation of the XP operating system, you will see a screen displaying the message - "Press F6 if you need to install a third-party SCSI or RAID driver". At this point, press the F5 key (this won't be supplied as an option on the screen and the installation won't wait, so you'll need to babysit the installation process and hit the key at the right moment). A few seconds after pressing F5, you will be presented with an option to select either "Standard PC" or "Other (ACPI) PC". At this point, select "Standard PC". from http://www.musicxp.net/installing_xp.php.

Before Windows installs, it will search your PC for existing versions of Windows and show the partitions you have, at that point select the partition you want to install windows on (the 19 Gig one you have). Just follow on screen instructions.

I dont have Win XP 64 Bit, and dont know much about it, so I cant comment on how a 32 Bit and 64 Bit system may interact.

mrvomit · Jan 15, 2006, 02:12 AM

THANKS.
I'm experiencing too many sonar crashes ,ecoecially after listening plugin ,and playng normally sonar hangs ,a clean install should be a better solution.

But i will install also S5 on the current partition to see what happen ,curious to check if it can solve some problems...

but i fear. th. IMPORTING settings ,could also import "problems" from sonar 4 .
I ìll pay a check on that i think

Maddogg6 · Jan 15, 2006, 02:29 AM

Just a side note...

Sonar 4 was VERY stable for me also...

mrvomit · Jan 15, 2006, 12:55 PM

..how i envy you

did you guys advice "standard pc" install?
and in that case ,just for a "only audio" partition right?
Thanks for advice on w64. .i wont install it if Kx can't run obviously

thomasabarnes · Jan 15, 2006, 01:16 PM

I reccomend a Standard PC install, but go read the guide here to be fully informed: http://www.musicxp.net/installing_xp.php

mrvomit · Jan 15, 2006, 02:38 PM

yep i did read the guide.
did'nt make for a NOt-ONLY-Daw machine like mine.

But maybe on another partition would be ok .

thomasabarnes · Jan 15, 2006, 03:24 PM

Try it out, and see if your system and SONAR performs better with a Standard PC config..

You will have to install a utility called NT Apm to be able to turn off your PC without seeing the "It is now safe to turn off your PC" message. But, it's already part of Windows and not hard to install. Post here if you install a Standard PC, and want to keep it, and I'll write the steps for installing the NT Apm utility.

mrvomit · Jan 16, 2006, 08:36 AM

UHM SORRY for bothering .
That is my
_____ "IRQ's using " __________
screenshot at the moment (link at bottom).
Can be th. a "standard pc " will bring out some problem in that sense?

http://mrvomit.interfree.it/iviewcap...e_09_32_18.jpg

Lex Nahumury · Jan 16, 2006, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomasabarnes

Try it out, and see if your system and SONAR performs better with a Standard PC config..

You will have to install a utility called NT Apm to be able to turn off your PC without seeing the "It is now safe to turn off your PC" message. But, it's already part of Windows and not hard to install. Post here if you install a Standard PC, and want to keep it, and I'll write the steps for installing the NT Apm utility.

Depending on bios and pc age, it might be possible/better to turn of ACPI in bios, so xp will do "standard pc".
Then in control Panel->Power Managment turn "APM" on.
That way xp powers down normal without the need for utils.

Also, IIRC, on newer PCs this whole "ACPI kills audio.." isn't valid anymore
due to better ACPI implementation.

hth.

thomasabarnes · Jan 16, 2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

Depending on bios and pc age, it might be possible/better to turn of ACPI in bios, so xp will do "standard pc".
Then in control Panel->Power Managment turn "APM" on.
That way xp powers down normal without the need for utils..

Sounds good, but I can only tell him what I know works for me. He should try what you say here. The next time I have to reinstall windows, I'll try this too. But I'm sure I have, and it doest work for me unless, I install NT Apm. However, next time, I'll try it and make sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMury

Also, IIRC, on newer PCs this whole "ACPI kills audio.." isn't valid anymore due to better ACPI implementation.

The link I gave him to the section of the guide expounds on this matter. I find myself having to write this stuff a lot, and I'm getting tired of repeating the same thing, so, in this case, I posted a link that explains the ACPI vs Standard PC deal.

mrvomit · Jan 16, 2006, 01:57 PM

i've read it obviously ,that's whay i asked ,as in the first page they say ITS better ACPI.

I was reading at the times of Win2000 about standard,and when you mentioned /ADVICED standard pc ,
i got the doubt about IRQSmy machine is running .a lot (or so it seems)

thomasabarnes · Jan 16, 2006, 02:24 PM

The thing about IRQs is to try to get your sound card on an IRQ by itself. This is attempted by disabling things in BIOS that you dont need (like parralell ports, onboard sound, printer port, on board MIDI port, etc.

mrvomit · Jan 16, 2006, 07:12 PM

Yep.For that reason i 've uploaded my IRQ screenshot(looking for Your Opinions guys).

as it is ,i dunno which irq one is essential or not.

A lot of them "seem" essential.
i'm researching through the net the various voices ,but is to vague and the links ifind aare speaking about many completely different things

Jan 13, 2006, 07:44 PM	#1
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	sonar 4 versus 5? i would have the chance to upgrade. How is it with 5 ,better or worst? Resource hoging? more stable or what? __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 13, 2006, 09:36 PM	#3
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	5 is better. oK, I'll expound a little, just a little, Pros: The best and worth while upgrade versions: I think SONAR 2 was worth the upgrade, and I think SONAR 5 is worth the upgrade. V Vocal and the RXP are more than reason enough to upgrade! Cons: The VST support is...well, as veteran VST users convey... the VST support is not native... as some veteran VST uses say... it's laughable. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jan 13, 2006 at 09:48 PM.

Jan 14, 2006, 10:23 AM	Thread Starter #4
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	Vst support of Cakewalk is Historically a Sh*T.Sad to know iut don't change. I'm having crashes Applyng effect at the moment ,but i can't know if is also driver related (kx acting strangly) But..Do YOU have BOTH Sonar 4 "AND" Sonar 5 on the same machine ? It seems so . when you install it ,how did you handle in that case? I figure out Too many program- files "overlapping" in that scenario ,files of S5 interfer-ing with S4. .I 'm hoping to solve that kind of problem, i search "desperately "stability , still dunno if upgrade is a good choice. But..if is possible to install both on same machine ,i would try out . In that case ,could You give me advice if you did take some tweaks to do that? __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060* DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 14, 2006, 02:10 PM	#6
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	SONAR 1,2,3,4,and 5 can be installed on same OS, technically. I dont like to do that cause some common files are shared, like MIDI FX plugins, for instance. Sonar 4 has it's own MIDI FX plugin look, but when you install S5 on the same OS, when you use S4 and open MIDI FX plugin, it will be the new MIDI plugin from S5 that opens. It is those kinds of things that happen when S4 and S5 gets installed on the same OS. Still if you can stand that, you can install both on the same OS. When you do, just select to import your settings of S4, when you install S5. Another thing is that I think the smooth MIDI performance I had in S4 got messed up when I imported the settings when installing S5 (it may just be in my mind). So, what I do is have S4 on my gaming partition (I have 2 parttions with Win XP installed), and I have S5 on the other partition. That works OK. And MIDI performance in S5 is great! I think the best of any SONAR version, and quantze works great in S5 for me! @Maddogg6: SONAR 5 doesnt install all the FX by default. You have to put in the S5 installation DVD and an do a custom install and select the FX you want installed. This is probably why you dont see some FX installed. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jan 14, 2006 at 02:16 PM.

Jan 14, 2006, 08:49 PM	Thread Starter #8
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	uhm i have a blank 19 Gb partition. Never installed 2 Os on the same boot (i have installed just on 2 different Hds ). Dunno how to handle in a "clean way " ,but i would try it definetely : sonar 4 + 5 in one partition ,sonar 5 in the clean one could be ok ? . What IF one partition has 64 Bit Os? can it read /32 bit applications ?And read also the other 32 partitions? I don have a Xp 64 edition ,but i could think to try out if is a benefit with it. __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 13, 2006, 08:42 PM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	My opinion is: 4 was a bit more stable in some aspect - Like driver selection - in 5 this is gotten 'wierd' 5 IS WAY better for handeling Virtual Busses - also, 5.1 surround mixing has improved over 3rd party plugins compatable with 4. Sonar in its self has never really been a 'HOG' per say - the nature of DAW is resource intensive - so I take this into consideration. In all fairness - I havent had too much time to compose in 5 (well, lack of inspiration is more likely) so track time is lower in 5 than 4 also... I have re-mixed mostly in 5 and not as much record as I did in 4. BUT, the little I have done in 5 is SOLID - eveyr now and again in 4 - a recorded track would not be in sync - IE buffer size seemed to change - Is gone now in 5 - VERY reliable record tracking and keep in sync. I Have had some hardware upgrades also - so its difficult to compare apples to apples directly. Rewire seems VERY solid with Reason 3. Suprisingly LOW CPU useage for how much horsepower is produced with this combination. My P4 3Ghz can handle a full MIDI posts worth of synths (10-12 soft synths) + Effect automations with < 70% CPU peaks ~ 50% durring playback. Very Impressive - 4 seemd a bit more 'clunkey' with rewire and reason 2.5 - but both have been upgraded...so take that with a grain of salt. All in all - Id say Sonar 5 is proving to be cakewalks 'typical' upgrade - a few new nice bells and whistles - and few more bugs squashed - and introduction od prolly a few new bugs... Over all - I like 5 better than 4

Jan 14, 2006, 11:56 AM	#5
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	just install in seperate directories.. The latest install will be what opens with dbl click etc.. Also - I suspect uninstalling 4 removed some effects common to 4 and 5 - I get 1 or 2 missing now - but maybe they were on 4 and NOT 5 and now Im missing them.. Id have to verify...

Jan 14, 2006, 05:29 PM	#7
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	@Thomas: I normally - as a general rule - always do 'custom' install - so I would have selected all the extras except tutorials maybe or loop beats. But, I could be wrong - The one Aplitube LE I think got removed from un-installing 4 - maybe 5 seen it existed and NOT installed it would make sense. ? Its not a biggy - but something to be cutioned with - just needed to re-install 5 after removing 4. Not sure now if Amplitube LE comes with 5 - maybe it was dropped - Id have to look closer at the sonar 5 install again to be sure now.

Jan 14, 2006, 11:53 PM	#9
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	well - KX wont work on 64 bit OS AFAIK.

Jan 15, 2006, 01:24 AM	#10
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	If you install Win XP on a HDD with 2 partitions, Windows will have a selection for you to select between the 2. The one on top is the last Windows you install. To install, set your BIOS to have CD Rom be the 1st Boot device, put the Windows CD in and Restart the PC. Follow the on screen instruction to press a key (spacebar I think) to boot from CD. If you want to install with an ACPI configuration, you wont have to do anything. "If you do decide to install as a "Standard PC", then follow the steps below. Firstly, the entry Plug and Play OS in your motherboard's BIOS should be set to 'NO'. During installation of the XP operating system, you will see a screen displaying the message - "Press F6 if you need to install a third-party SCSI or RAID driver". At this point, press the F5 key (this won't be supplied as an option on the screen and the installation won't wait, so you'll need to babysit the installation process and hit the key at the right moment). A few seconds after pressing F5, you will be presented with an option to select either "Standard PC" or "Other (ACPI) PC". At this point, select "Standard PC". from http://www.musicxp.net/installing_xp.php. Before Windows installs, it will search your PC for existing versions of Windows and show the partitions you have, at that point select the partition you want to install windows on (the 19 Gig one you have). Just follow on screen instructions. I dont have Win XP 64 Bit, and dont know much about it, so I cant comment on how a 32 Bit and 64 Bit system may interact. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Jan 15, 2006 at 01:35 AM.

Jan 15, 2006, 02:12 AM	Thread Starter #11
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	THANKS. I'm experiencing too many sonar crashes ,ecoecially after listening plugin ,and playng normally sonar hangs ,a clean install should be a better solution. But i will install also S5 on the current partition to see what happen ,curious to check if it can solve some problems... but i fear. th. IMPORTING settings ,could also import "problems" from sonar 4 . I ìll pay a check on that i think __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 15, 2006, 02:29 AM	#12
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 0	Just a side note... Sonar 4 was VERY stable for me also...

Jan 15, 2006, 12:55 PM	Thread Starter #13
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	..how i envy you did you guys advice "standard pc" install? and in that case ,just for a "only audio" partition right? Thanks for advice on w64. .i wont install it if Kx can't run obviously __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 15, 2006, 01:16 PM	#14
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I reccomend a Standard PC install, but go read the guide here to be fully informed: http://www.musicxp.net/installing_xp.php __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jan 15, 2006, 02:38 PM	Thread Starter #15
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	yep i did read the guide. did'nt make for a NOt-ONLY-Daw machine like mine. But maybe on another partition would be ok . __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 15, 2006, 03:24 PM	#16
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Try it out, and see if your system and SONAR performs better with a Standard PC config.. You will have to install a utility called NT Apm to be able to turn off your PC without seeing the "It is now safe to turn off your PC" message. But, it's already part of Windows and not hard to install. Post here if you install a Standard PC, and want to keep it, and I'll write the steps for installing the NT Apm utility. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jan 16, 2006, 08:36 AM	Thread Starter #17
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	UHM SORRY for bothering . That is my _____ "IRQ's using " __________ screenshot at the moment (link at bottom). Can be th. a "standard pc " will bring out some problem in that sense? http://mrvomit.interfree.it/iviewcap...e_09_32_18.jpg __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 16, 2006, 01:57 PM	Thread Starter #20
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	i've read it obviously ,that's whay i asked ,as in the first page they say ITS better ACPI. I was reading at the times of Win2000 about standard,and when you mentioned /ADVICED standard pc , i got the doubt about IRQSmy machine is running .a lot (or so it seems) __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP

Jan 16, 2006, 02:24 PM	#21
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	The thing about IRQs is to try to get your sound card on an IRQ by itself. This is attempted by disabling things in BIOS that you dont need (like parralell ports, onboard sound, printer port, on board MIDI port, etc. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Jan 16, 2006, 07:12 PM	Thread Starter #22
mrvomit HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 261 Rep Power: 0	Yep.For that reason i 've uploaded my IRQ screenshot(looking for Your Opinions guys). as it is ,i dunno which irq one is essential or not. A lot of them "seem" essential. i'm researching through the net the various voices ,but is to vague and the links ifind aare speaking about many completely different things __________________ audio: Audigy 2 platinum SB0240 - amd 939 175 opty- Backup: Sblive 5.1 platinum (w.live drive) Sb060 DVDwriter : pioneer 107, nec 3540A windows XP