Win98,SBLive!5.1Platinum,kX3537 -- no luck yet!

goldrich · Feb 8, 2006, 06:45 PM

Hi --

I've been struggling to get the kX drivers to work. I've tried cleaning with DCPro, I've reinstalled the OS twice (!), and whatever I do, the result is always the same -- the post-install reboot message on boot-up, and the "Code 2" message in the Device Manager / General tab.

Please, can anyone help?

Thanks --

Fred Goldrich

Doug W · Feb 8, 2006, 09:14 PM

You do mean Win 98SE right? 98 First Edition is not supported by kX.

So assuming that you have the following:

1. Win 98SE
2. DirectX 8 (at least) installed
3. Internet Explorer 6 installed

If missing any of the 3 above, update first, then try a manual update.

In Control Panel choose

System->Device Manager->Sound, Video and game controllers->kX 10k1 Audio - Model CT4832 ValuekX (in my case)->Driver tab->Update driver button->browse to C:\Program Files\kX Project\3537

goldrich · Feb 8, 2006, 09:44 PM

You do mean Win 98SE right? 98 First Edition is not supported by kX.

Yes, thanks, Win98SE it is .

So assuming that you have the following:

1. Win 98SE (4.10, Build 2222)
2. DirectX 8 (at least) installed DirectX 9.0b(4.09.000.0902)
3. Internet Explorer 6 installed IE 6.0.2600.0000IC

If missing any of the 3 above, update first, then try a manual update.

In Control Panel choose

System->Device Manager->Sound, Video and game controllers->kX 10k1 Audio - Model CT4832 ValuekX (in my case)->Driver tab->Update driver button->browse to C:\Program Files\kX Project\3537

I've done that, and unfortunately it brings no improvement.

I appreciate the help. What should I try next?

-- Fred Goldrich

P.S. BTW, the System Properties / Device Manager tab says that the kX 10k1 Audio - Game Port is working fine -- though, to be sure, it's using old MS drivers.

Doug W · Feb 8, 2006, 10:14 PM

Have you already tried just switching to a new PCI slot?

Doug W · Feb 8, 2006, 10:55 PM

Another thing that has worked for some people who have had trouble installing 3537 with Win 98SE is to install an older version first.

Uninstall kX first if you can:
Probably a good idea to uninstall what you have of kX if that is possible.
Start->Programs->kX Project->Uninstall kX Project package (Version 3537)

Install 3534f
You can download that from TravelRec's site
[color=red]http://www.electricstart.de/site/kxdr.htm[/color]

Then install 3537 UPDATE version (not full). Download here:
[color=red]http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/down.php?language=en[/color]

goldrich · Feb 8, 2006, 11:08 PM

Changing slots was a good idea -- I wouldn't have thought of it myself -- but sorry to say that one didn't do the trick either.

Thanks for both that idea and the next, which I'm about to do. (I'm on dial-up, so it will be a little while.) But I'll give the old two-step a try and get back to you with the results.

goldrich · Feb 9, 2006, 12:53 AM

...and the results of Step 1: Success! -- 3534f installed flawlessly!

I'll be back with the results of Step 2 -- many thanks!

goldrich · Feb 9, 2006, 03:44 AM

...and Step 2 was equally successful. I don't yet have it configured to work with all my applications, but so far I'm very impressed with what I've heard.

I'm very grateful for your help.

-- Fred Goldrich

Doug W · Feb 9, 2006, 10:01 AM

Glad it worked out for you.

geraldandreas · Feb 10, 2006, 10:24 AM

there can be also a problem when the installer copy the kx.sys into the system32 folder. i had it also and to fix this, delete the kx.sys in the system32 folder and copy the right one (for w98se) in the system32 folder.
for me this solved all problems.
regards

Doug W · Feb 10, 2006, 02:31 PM

Gerald,

Quote:

there can be also a problem when the installer copy the kx.sys into the system32 folder

How do you know that this has occurred-by the size of the file?

goldrich · Feb 10, 2006, 03:15 PM

Quote:

there can be also a problem when the installer copy the kx.sys into the system32 folder. i had it also and to fix this, delete the kx.sys in the system32 folder and copy the right one (for w98se) in the system32 folder.

Gerald --

Since I installed in two steps, I've got two different kx.sys files -- one in the \3534 directory and one in the \3537. The one in the SYSTEM32 folder has the same size and modification date as the on in \3537.

Is there something else I should do?

Thanks.

P.S. Wie glücklich, in der Nähe Wien zu wohnen!

geraldandreas · Feb 11, 2006, 09:57 AM

normally there are 2 kx.sys in the 3537 directory, kx.sys and kx98.sys.
when installing the driver on w98se, in my case the ky.sys was installed and nothing works. so i think the install routine should copy and rename the kx98.sys to kx.sys in the system directory.
the kx.sys size is 571.776
the kx98.sys size is 571.520
regards

goldrich · Feb 11, 2006, 04:35 PM

Gerald --

Thanks for clarifying. In Windows Explorer, with file sizes rounded to the nearest KB, the two files appear identical. It turns out mine are installed correctly, but it would have been hard for me to verify that without having the accurate file size numbers.

Doug W · Feb 11, 2006, 09:55 PM

It's a bit confusing, because Windows Explorer shows kx.sys as 559 KB. Right clicking the file and choosing properties, it shows the file at 558KB (571.520 bytes).

Maddogg6 · Feb 11, 2006, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug W

It's a bit confusing, because Windows Explorer shows kx.sys as 559 KB. Right clicking the file and choosing properties, it shows the file at 558KB (571.520 bytes).

I *think* there are 3 cases of what a file size is reported as.

1) the actual ammount of bytes that the file is.
2) The above value rounded up.
3) The ammount of disk space used to store that file (dependiong on file system, chunk sizes vary - thus if chunk sizes are 4KB (4096 bytes) a 6 KB (6144 Bytes) will actually use 2 4KB chunks and be reported as an 8KB file.

Thats my understanding - and Im only making an 'educated' guess.
Which place reports what - I dunno. But I DO know the 3 cases are possible.

Feb 8, 2006, 06:45 PM	#1
goldrich DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: on the coast of Maine (NE USA) Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Win98,SBLive!5.1Platinum,kX3537 -- no luck yet! Hi -- I've been struggling to get the kX drivers to work. I've tried cleaning with DCPro, I've reinstalled the OS twice (!), and whatever I do, the result is always the same -- the post-install reboot message on boot-up, and the "Code 2" message in the Device Manager / General tab. Please, can anyone help? Thanks -- Fred Goldrich

Feb 8, 2006, 10:55 PM	#5
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Another thing that has worked for some people who have had trouble installing 3537 with Win 98SE is to install an older version first. Uninstall kX first if you can: Probably a good idea to uninstall what you have of kX if that is possible. Start->Programs->kX Project->Uninstall kX Project package (Version 3537) Install 3534f You can download that from TravelRec's site [color=red]http://www.electricstart.de/site/kxdr.htm[/color] Then install 3537 UPDATE version (not full). Download here: [color=red]http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/down.php?language=en[/color] Last edited by Doug W; Feb 8, 2006 at 11:01 PM.

Feb 10, 2006, 10:24 AM	#10
geraldandreas KX-Driver Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: in the heart of EU, near vienna Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	there can be also a problem when the installer copy the kx.sys into the system32 folder. i had it also and to fix this, delete the kx.sys in the system32 folder and copy the right one (for w98se) in the system32 folder. for me this solved all problems. regards __________________ Gerald 1; Core2-Q9450, x38-Mobo, 2048mb, 2x SATA-HD, SB0092+LD, XP/sp3

Feb 11, 2006, 09:57 AM	#13
geraldandreas KX-Driver Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: in the heart of EU, near vienna Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	normally there are 2 kx.sys in the 3537 directory, kx.sys and kx98.sys. when installing the driver on w98se, in my case the ky.sys was installed and nothing works. so i think the install routine should copy and rename the kx98.sys to kx.sys in the system directory. the kx.sys size is 571.776 the kx98.sys size is 571.520 regards __________________ Gerald 1; Core2-Q9450, x38-Mobo, 2048mb, 2x SATA-HD, SB0092+LD, XP/sp3

Feb 8, 2006, 09:14 PM	#2
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	You do mean Win 98SE right? 98 First Edition is not supported by kX. So assuming that you have the following: 1. Win 98SE 2. DirectX 8 (at least) installed 3. Internet Explorer 6 installed If missing any of the 3 above, update first, then try a manual update. In Control Panel choose System->Device Manager->Sound, Video and game controllers->kX 10k1 Audio - Model CT4832 ValuekX (in my case)->Driver tab->Update driver button->browse to C:\Program Files\kX Project\3537

Feb 8, 2006, 09:44 PM	Thread Starter #3
goldrich DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: on the coast of Maine (NE USA) Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	*You do mean Win 98SE right? 98 First Edition is not supported by kX.* Yes, thanks, Win98SE it is . So assuming that you have the following: 1. Win 98SE (4.10, Build 2222) *2. DirectX 8 (at least) installed* DirectX 9.0b(4.09.000.0902) *3. Internet Explorer 6 installed* IE 6.0.2600.0000IC If missing any of the 3 above, update first, then try a manual update. In Control Panel choose System->Device Manager->Sound, Video and game controllers->kX 10k1 Audio - Model CT4832 ValuekX (in my case)->Driver tab->Update driver button->browse to C:\Program Files\kX Project\3537 I've done that, and unfortunately it brings no improvement. I appreciate the help. What should I try next? -- Fred Goldrich P.S. BTW, the System Properties / Device Manager tab says that the kX 10k1 Audio - Game Port is working fine -- though, to be sure, it's using old MS drivers.

Feb 8, 2006, 10:14 PM	#4
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Have you already tried just switching to a new PCI slot?

Feb 8, 2006, 11:08 PM	Thread Starter #6
goldrich DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: on the coast of Maine (NE USA) Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Changing slots was a good idea -- I wouldn't have thought of it myself -- but sorry to say that one didn't do the trick either. Thanks for both that idea and the next, which I'm about to do. (I'm on dial-up, so it will be a little while.) But I'll give the old two-step a try and get back to you with the results.

Feb 9, 2006, 12:53 AM	Thread Starter #7
goldrich DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: on the coast of Maine (NE USA) Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	...and the results of Step 1: Success! -- 3534f installed flawlessly! I'll be back with the results of Step 2 -- many thanks!

Feb 9, 2006, 03:44 AM	Thread Starter #8
goldrich DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: on the coast of Maine (NE USA) Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	...and Step 2 was equally successful. I don't yet have it configured to work with all my applications, but so far I'm very impressed with what I've heard. I'm very grateful for your help. -- Fred Goldrich

Feb 9, 2006, 10:01 AM	#9
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	Glad it worked out for you.

Feb 11, 2006, 04:35 PM	Thread Starter #14
goldrich DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: on the coast of Maine (NE USA) Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Gerald -- Thanks for clarifying. In Windows Explorer, with file sizes rounded to the nearest KB, the two files appear identical. It turns out mine are installed correctly, but it would have been hard for me to verify that without having the accurate file size numbers.

Feb 11, 2006, 09:55 PM	#15
Doug W HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Montevideo, MN USA Posts: 973 Rep Power: 0	It's a bit confusing, because Windows Explorer shows kx.sys as 559 KB. Right clicking the file and choosing properties, it shows the file at 558KB (571.520 bytes).