The video card industry; a history of corporate blunders.

digitalwanderer · Feb 1, 2003, 03:43 AM

My good friend Quinn over at EliteBastards just put up an excellent history of corporate blunders in the video industry that details 3dfx, ATI, & nVidia's big mistakes along a very well constructed timeline.

I found it to be a fascinating and fun read that covers a lot of ground very well....I highly recomend it.

Vampyromaniac · Feb 2, 2003, 03:41 AM

Very nice ! Give your man a pat on de back

digitalwanderer · Feb 2, 2003, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
Very nice ! Give your man a pat on de back

I'll pass on the kudos to Quinn, but just for clarification sakes I want to mention that I work for Quinn...he's me Bossman over there along with Zarathustra.

Gotta love an office where drinking is encouraged, there's over-flowing ashtrays everywhere, and a lazy haze of smoke hovering near the ceiling. Me loves and is muchly honored being allowed to keep a desk over there! It's a bit like circus, except with computers and run by fun crazy people.

Vampyromaniac · Feb 2, 2003, 05:31 AM

Whaa?? You work? Don't tell me you hung up your mom-thing suit

orrimarrko · Feb 2, 2003, 06:57 AM

I have a question??

Near the bottom of the article he says that the 6 month delay and FX Flow device where out of nvidias control. And they only get a blunder point because the card barely outperforms the 9700 pro that was released earlier.

How was the delay and Flow FX design out of nvidias control? I under stand TSMC had major problems fabbing the .13 design, but it was nvidia themselves who called for that spec. And nvidia also the ones who decided to clock the SHIT out of there card in order to raise the performance, thus making alot of heat, resulting in the Flow FX.

I think nVidia should get 2 points atleast for that series of events.

One, for a lack luster product that comes 6 months later than the previous high-end competition product and only margionaly out-performs it in certain areas.

and

Two, for the entire FX Flow design theory, and clocking the hell out of there cards to have them competition worthy. I mean, honestly.... come'on! Who the hell, even hardcore people, is gonna put up with 77 decibel noise comming from there case that sounds like Neo entering the Matrix??

They could get another one I think also for the price there attempting to charge people for this, in combination with noise, to slight performance increase ratio over the competitor at best.

or

You could touch on, thro recent development about the smudged settings the FX has with doing FSAA and AF, tho that could be related to driver issues, Ill give it that.

Feb 1, 2003, 03:43 AM	#1
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	The video card industry; a history of corporate blunders. My good friend Quinn over at EliteBastards just put up an excellent history of corporate blunders in the video industry that details 3dfx, ATI, & nVidia's big mistakes along a very well constructed timeline. I found it to be a fascinating and fun read that covers a lot of ground very well....I highly recomend it. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Feb 2, 2003, 03:41 AM	#2
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Feb 2, 2003, 05:31 AM	#4
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Feb 2, 2003, 06:57 AM	#5
orrimarrko Excessive Tweaker Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0	I have a question?? Near the bottom of the article he says that the 6 month delay and FX Flow device where out of nvidias control. And they only get a blunder point because the card barely outperforms the 9700 pro that was released earlier. How was the delay and Flow FX design out of nvidias control? I under stand TSMC had major problems fabbing the .13 design, but it was nvidia themselves who called for that spec. And nvidia also the ones who decided to clock the SHIT out of there card in order to raise the performance, thus making alot of heat, resulting in the Flow FX. I think nVidia should get 2 points atleast for that series of events. One, for a lack luster product that comes 6 months later than the previous high-end competition product and only margionaly out-performs it in certain areas. and Two, for the entire FX Flow design theory, and clocking the hell out of there cards to have them competition worthy. I mean, honestly.... come'on! Who the hell, even hardcore people, is gonna put up with 77 decibel noise comming from there case that sounds like Neo entering the Matrix?? They could get another one I think also for the price there attempting to charge people for this, in combination with noise, to slight performance increase ratio over the competitor at best. or You could touch on, thro recent development about the smudged settings the FX has with doing FSAA and AF, tho that could be related to driver issues, Ill give it that. __________________ The Rig: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ @ 1825mhz, ATI Radeon 9700 Prol w/ Cat 2.4 driver set @ 335/335mhz. Leadtek SIS7350kDA motherboard with 2/06/2002 BIOS , 768mb DDR 2100 Crucial ram running at CAS2 146-FSB ,Hercules Fortissimo II SC, 16x Pioneer DVD ROM, 4x4x24x Teac CDRW, Maxtor 60gig 5400RPM HDD, Seagate 40gig 7200RPM HDD,WD 120gig 7200RPM SE HDD, Chieftec Black aluminum windowed server case "modded to hell!", ALPHA PAL8045T HS with 45CFM Sunon fan, 570 Watt Vantec Black Aluminum Stealth PSU, Logitech THX Z-560 4.1 speakers, Windows XP Professional SP1, "Primary Display": Sony 21" GDM-500PS FD Trinitron Monitor, "Secondary Display": 17" Sony HMD-A200 FD Trinitron Monitor