SITE POLL: Geforce FX, would you buy one?

Zardon · Feb 2, 2003, 01:37 PM

There have been alot of reviews, articles and information available so far on the Geforce FX, so ive opened a site poll to get peoples opinions on the card in one thread.

Do you feel its worth purchasing after reading the reviews? is it too loud? overpriced? does it perform well enough? or would you rather spend the money on a 9700 pro from ATI? Or are you waiting for the FX to come down in price before spending your hard earned cash?

Vote, then post your comments.

Vehicon · Feb 2, 2003, 01:55 PM

I have already ordered mine from Best Buy.BUT, after hearing the noise it makes, im not to sure now.My PC is a very quite one, and i would hate to have it make some high pitched whinning noise now.BUT, owell, we shall see when i get it.

ExitiosuS · Feb 2, 2003, 01:56 PM

Personally, if NVidia can make that card A LOT quieter, by all means. I wouldn't mind taking up the extra PCI slot (I have 3 open.

) sooo....

But ya', ever since I got a raise I've been pretty frugal with cash - and I like NVidia's drivers, I think NVidia can bring the card to its potential.

If that other article was true about the sound of a heartbeat, damn man, that'd be a nice card. lol!

Anyways, I'm out. heh

RIV@NVX · Feb 2, 2003, 02:06 PM

No.
I would rather buy 9700 PRO for that money, because it is better and I prefer ATI.
But at the moment I will not buy either because I always buy expensive technology when it is already outdated, so I can get it at reasonable price

kinetic · Feb 2, 2003, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RIV@NVX
No.
I would rather buy 9700 PRO for that money, because it is better and I prefer ATI.
But at the moment I will not buy either because I always buy expensive technology when it is already outdated, so I can get it at reasonable price

I second that!

shuki · Feb 2, 2003, 02:45 PM

I'll be keeping me current r9700 pro

JLP · Feb 2, 2003, 02:47 PM

I would never buy such a card. It is so expensive and it is so loud. I'll go with ATI. It is a lot cheaper and performs almost the same. And it has superb picture quality and excellent support for DVD playback. The only bad thing about ATI currently is their lack of support for Linux. I hope they wake up and start doing something about this.

wlsh242 · Feb 2, 2003, 02:47 PM

I have a 9700 pro and can only see it getting better with the new drivers coming out. The FX may be a little faster; but in no way better. So I'm not even thinking about changing. Nice try NVIDIA.

Scoop · Feb 2, 2003, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
There have been alot of reviews, articles and information available so far on the Geforce FX, so ive opened a site poll to get peoples opinions on the card in one thread.

Do you feel its worth purchasing after reading the reviews? is it too loud? overpriced? does it perform well enough? or would you rather spend the money on a 9700 pro from ATI? Or are you waiting for the FX to come down in price before spending your hard earned cash?

Vote, then post your comments.

I did preorder one of these beasts the other day but have since cancelled it decided to stick with my trusty old 4600ti for a while longer, the test rig really did it for me too noisey and far to expensive.

Regards Scoop

Rayder · Feb 2, 2003, 03:25 PM

Welp, I have never bought anything Nvidia before, and after reading the reviews for the FX, that stance is only reinforced. I'll stick with ATI.

By_Tor · Feb 2, 2003, 03:39 PM

Well i just got my Radeon 9500 pro, and i'm more than happy with it.
The last time i spent more than £250 on a card was when the GF2 came out, and i will never do it again.

choppy9er · Feb 2, 2003, 04:11 PM

The FX doesnt really show anymore performance than the 9700 Pro.The ATI price is going to be dropping a little so it looks to be a good time to buy the ATI card.I have a GF4 4600 and it is more than I need, and I wouldnt want something that hot and noisy in my case anyway.I'm wondering why the FX doesn't have better performance than it shows at 500/500DDR.Choppy

nForcer · Feb 2, 2003, 04:19 PM

I have to upgrade my CPU before I do anymore GPU upgrading. I'll eventually buy the FX when I learn more about water cooling - then I'm gonna have some fun!

~~David~~ · Feb 2, 2003, 04:57 PM

Keeping r9700 pro. Ill buy the R350 when it comes out.

HsuGotaQ · Feb 2, 2003, 04:58 PM

I'll be saving my money for the R350 instead.

toddsmack2k · Feb 2, 2003, 05:02 PM

I will be keeping my 9700 pro. I dont see where the minor performance gain from the FX in some areas and loses in other areas justifies buying this card. I dont see where now it is worth buying

Kemal · Feb 2, 2003, 05:02 PM

Saving my money for the cheaper (and faster) R350.

the_Wop · Feb 2, 2003, 05:15 PM

Already have nVidia GeForce4 MX440se, really don't have enough computer for the FX and I think I MAY try an ATI card for the first time!!!

sacrilius · Feb 2, 2003, 05:24 PM

I'll wait for the 9700Pro to come down in price, I prefer ATI.

DriveEuro · Feb 2, 2003, 05:55 PM

Damn, my Ti4200 64mb scores the close to the R9700Pro at stock speeds. Why bother spending the 100-150$ more for 5% better speed?

~~tenndevil~~ · Feb 2, 2003, 06:13 PM

I Like my Radeon AIW 9700 Pro, The success I had with my 8500DV is what made me decide, and it replaced my VD5 5500, thats when nvidia lost me

tparker · Feb 2, 2003, 06:40 PM

There is quite a battle brewing in Videocard market with the FX fixing to be the King for a short span.

Nvidia didn't release the Good drivers to the reviewers they knew they would be leaked to us and ATI would know what step to make next right now they don't know what the FX is capable of Drivers can make a 20% increase in benchmarks .Nvidia is trying to play us like a fiddle by releasing the 128 meg card first they know that some people will buy the 128 meg one that is interested in 256 they will wait two or three months and then release the 256 meg model and some that bought the 128 meg one will sell it and buy the 256 meg one and that is wrong.Nvidia rolled the dice and gambled on 0.13 micron core size on GPU and it set them back they also missed the mark by only making their videocards 128 bit where the ATI is 256 it hurt them on bandwidth the DDR II memory didn't make up for the difference
and it shows in benchmarks they have other aces up their sleeve and hopefully ATI can counter them with their new GPU speeds.I have always bought Nvidia because of faster cards and a lot better drivers ATI is getting a lot better i wish they would do better on open GL that is a shortcoming of theirs but if they get that fixed Nvidia could be playing secopnd fiddle and i will have a Radeon 9700 pro in my pc unless Nvidia shows me some better Benchmarks and some quiter fan speed they sound like a vacuum cleaner the WAF is way off and if you want to know what WAF stands for it is Wife Acceptance Factor.

BoogyMan · Feb 2, 2003, 07:02 PM

nv is going to have to step up to the plate and produce quality visuals before I consider them again. I've 'funded' them for too long and received very little in return........

Desert_Siege · Feb 2, 2003, 07:05 PM

I gave up on the FX and replaced my Ti4400 with a 9700 Pro. The drivers are still a little flaky, but FAR superior to what I was expecting from ATI. This is truly an impressive card, and playing my favorite games with 16X Anso and 4x AA and still moving right along at 70-120FPS is just awesome. I see now what I was missing. I have been using Nvidia cards since the original GeForce 256 cards came out and still have alot of respect for Nvidia. Rarely do you get a card that you put in your computer, put in your drivers, put in your game and play....it just works. This was not so for a long time with ATI and thats why I stayed away, but after reading alot of what you guys were writing about these cards and ATI's improved support and driver development, I figured what the hell and bought one. ATI always did have excellent 2D quality anyway so at least my desktop will look better even if it won't play my games, and I haven't been disappointed yet. I can't honestly say the IQ is noticeably better than it was with my Ti4400 in the same games, but the frame rate is much higher and play seems smoother with no loss in frame rate from smoke, rocket trails etc.. like I had with the Ti4400 with AA enabled.

Good job ATI and keep the good things coming, you might just keep an experimenting Nvidia customer

Asmoday · Feb 2, 2003, 07:38 PM

I'm happy with my current videocard......

Zardon · Feb 2, 2003, 07:39 PM

I had a reckoning the poll might be quite negative for nvidia after reading the comments across this board and other boards on the net, but I have to say that after reading the posts and the figures, even im surprised.... I have a feeling Nvidia might not be selling too many of these cards.

BWX · Feb 2, 2003, 07:59 PM

When I can get a 9700pro for around 220 dollars, I will buy one- It will be years before an FX comes down to a reasonable price. The 9700 pro looks like the way to go for the best price/performance ratio.

FuNsTeR · Feb 2, 2003, 08:03 PM

happy with my Leadtek geoforce 4 TI 4400 8 x agp ... does the job i require of it ... and to be frank paying £260 to £300+ for a graphics card is not a option for me

Falstaff · Feb 2, 2003, 08:12 PM

Nvidia could just make the pricing more realistic and they might be competitive with ATI, got an over clocked Radeon 128 and it makes me happy, we all know they added at least 100 dollars to price of the high end thinking they could get it, ha! those FPS mean nothing without quality!! Me like RADEON, Gooood for fragging and Russian flight sim, yessss..

**Roadee** · Feb 2, 2003, 09:03 PM

I have used several of the NoVideo cards, they are fussy and cant keep up with the picture quality of the ATI cards. I have an ATI 8500LE 128 DDR (retail) right now, and I love it. Tweak it a little and 10K is now problem. I am more than happy with this card

, the price was right. Now I am just waiting for the 9700 PRO to get below $200, and then I will be super happy!!

Feb 2, 2003, 01:37 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	SITE POLL: Geforce FX, would you buy one? There have been alot of reviews, articles and information available so far on the Geforce FX, so ive opened a site poll to get peoples opinions on the card in one thread. Do you feel its worth purchasing after reading the reviews? is it too loud? overpriced? does it perform well enough? or would you rather spend the money on a 9700 pro from ATI? Or are you waiting for the FX to come down in price before spending your hard earned cash? Vote, then post your comments.

Feb 2, 2003, 01:55 PM	#2
Vehicon The Cable Guy Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA IL. Posts: 466 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	I have already ordered mine from Best Buy.BUT, after hearing the noise it makes, im not to sure now.My PC is a very quite one, and i would hate to have it make some high pitched whinning noise now.BUT, owell, we shall see when i get it. __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 02:06 PM	#4
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	No. I would rather buy 9700 PRO for that money, because it is better and I prefer ATI. But at the moment I will not buy either because I always buy expensive technology when it is already outdated, so I can get it at reasonable price __________________ -- Vedran

Feb 2, 2003, 02:47 PM	#7
JLP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Slovenia Posts: 249 Rep Power: 0	nVidia is dead I would never buy such a card. It is so expensive and it is so loud. I'll go with ATI. It is a lot cheaper and performs almost the same. And it has superb picture quality and excellent support for DVD playback. The only bad thing about ATI currently is their lack of support for Linux. I hope they wake up and start doing something about this.

Feb 2, 2003, 04:11 PM	#12
choppy9er DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Weatherford,Texas Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Geforce FX The FX doesnt really show anymore performance than the 9700 Pro.The ATI price is going to be dropping a little so it looks to be a good time to buy the ATI card.I have a GF4 4600 and it is more than I need, and I wouldnt want something that hot and noisy in my case anyway.I'm wondering why the FX doesn't have better performance than it shows at 500/500DDR.Choppy __________________ Gigabyte K8NS Ultra-939 AMD 3000+Winchester 512 Patriot XBL(2x512) Thermaltake Venus 12 (2) Maxtor D740X 40gig Highpoint Rocket Raid PCI Striped Sapphire Radeon 9500 Softmodded Soundblaster Audigy Antec Truepower 480 Liteon 16X DVD Liteon 52/24/52 CDRW Chieftech Server Case

Feb 2, 2003, 01:56 PM	#3
ExitiosuS Simian Masterpiece! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, Ont. Canada Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Personally, if NVidia can make that card A LOT quieter, by all means. I wouldn't mind taking up the extra PCI slot (I have 3 open. ) sooo.... But ya', ever since I got a raise I've been pretty frugal with cash - and I like NVidia's drivers, I think NVidia can bring the card to its potential. If that other article was true about the sound of a heartbeat, damn man, that'd be a nice card. lol! Anyways, I'm out. heh

Feb 2, 2003, 02:45 PM	#6
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	I'll be keeping me current r9700 pro

Feb 2, 2003, 02:47 PM	#8
wlsh242 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: FL USA Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	I have a 9700 pro and can only see it getting better with the new drivers coming out. The FX may be a little faster; but in no way better. So I'm not even thinking about changing. Nice try NVIDIA.

Feb 2, 2003, 03:25 PM	#10
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	Welp, I have never bought anything Nvidia before, and after reading the reviews for the FX, that stance is only reinforced. I'll stick with ATI.

Feb 2, 2003, 03:39 PM	#11
By_Tor DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Well i just got my Radeon 9500 pro, and i'm more than happy with it. The last time i spent more than £250 on a card was when the GF2 came out, and i will never do it again.

Feb 2, 2003, 04:19 PM	#13
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	I have to upgrade my CPU before I do anymore GPU upgrading. I'll eventually buy the FX when I learn more about water cooling - then I'm gonna have some fun!

Feb 2, 2003, 04:57 PM	#14
~~David~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 959 Rep Power: 0	Keeping r9700 pro. Ill buy the R350 when it comes out.

Feb 2, 2003, 04:58 PM	#15
HsuGotaQ Hydrogenated Dumbass Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canuckland Posts: 755 Rep Power: 0	I'll be saving my money for the R350 instead.

Feb 2, 2003, 05:02 PM	#16
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	I will be keeping my 9700 pro. I dont see where the minor performance gain from the FX in some areas and loses in other areas justifies buying this card. I dont see where now it is worth buying __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Feb 2, 2003, 05:02 PM	#17
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	Saving my money for the cheaper (and faster) R350. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Feb 2, 2003, 05:15 PM	#18
the_Wop DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Already have nVidia GeForce4 MX440se, really don't have enough computer for the FX and I think I MAY try an ATI card for the first time!!!

Feb 2, 2003, 05:24 PM	#19
sacrilius Evil Je$ter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sacramento, CA. Born in Brooklyn, NY Posts: 127 Rep Power: 0	I'll wait for the 9700Pro to come down in price, I prefer ATI. __________________ ASUS A7N8X E Deluxe MOBO Rev. 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3200+ ATI Radeon 128MB DDR 9800 Pro Ultra MEMORY 1.5GB PC-3200/400MHz WD Raptor 36GBX2 SiI Raid 0 & WD 40GB HD Windows XP Pro SP2 Corporate

Feb 2, 2003, 05:55 PM	#20
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Damn, my Ti4200 64mb scores the close to the R9700Pro at stock speeds. Why bother spending the 100-150$ more for 5% better speed? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 2, 2003, 06:13 PM	#21
~~tenndevil~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	I Like my Radeon AIW 9700 Pro, The success I had with my 8500DV is what made me decide, and it replaced my VD5 5500, thats when nvidia lost me

Feb 2, 2003, 06:40 PM	#22
tparker DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Winston Salem N.C. Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	FX vs ATI There is quite a battle brewing in Videocard market with the FX fixing to be the King for a short span. Nvidia didn't release the Good drivers to the reviewers they knew they would be leaked to us and ATI would know what step to make next right now they don't know what the FX is capable of Drivers can make a 20% increase in benchmarks .Nvidia is trying to play us like a fiddle by releasing the 128 meg card first they know that some people will buy the 128 meg one that is interested in 256 they will wait two or three months and then release the 256 meg model and some that bought the 128 meg one will sell it and buy the 256 meg one and that is wrong.Nvidia rolled the dice and gambled on 0.13 micron core size on GPU and it set them back they also missed the mark by only making their videocards 128 bit where the ATI is 256 it hurt them on bandwidth the DDR II memory didn't make up for the difference and it shows in benchmarks they have other aces up their sleeve and hopefully ATI can counter them with their new GPU speeds.I have always bought Nvidia because of faster cards and a lot better drivers ATI is getting a lot better i wish they would do better on open GL that is a shortcoming of theirs but if they get that fixed Nvidia could be playing secopnd fiddle and i will have a Radeon 9700 pro in my pc unless Nvidia shows me some better Benchmarks and some quiter fan speed they sound like a vacuum cleaner the WAF is way off and if you want to know what WAF stands for it is Wife Acceptance Factor.

Feb 2, 2003, 07:02 PM	#23
BoogyMan DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 34.28320-118.78180 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	nv is going to have to step up to the plate and produce quality visuals before I consider them again. I've 'funded' them for too long and received very little in return........ __________________ pIV 1.6a/Abit IT7/425w psu/512m pc3000 Mushkin/4 x Maxtor HDD's RAID 0/ATI 9700 Pro/Hercules GTXP/Logitech goodies/winXP

Feb 2, 2003, 07:05 PM	#24
Desert_Siege Professional Slacker Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: KY Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	After months of waiting and years of using Nvidia's cards.... I gave up on the FX and replaced my Ti4400 with a 9700 Pro. The drivers are still a little flaky, but FAR superior to what I was expecting from ATI. This is truly an impressive card, and playing my favorite games with 16X Anso and 4x AA and still moving right along at 70-120FPS is just awesome. I see now what I was missing. I have been using Nvidia cards since the original GeForce 256 cards came out and still have alot of respect for Nvidia. Rarely do you get a card that you put in your computer, put in your drivers, put in your game and play....it just works. This was not so for a long time with ATI and thats why I stayed away, but after reading alot of what you guys were writing about these cards and ATI's improved support and driver development, I figured what the hell and bought one. ATI always did have excellent 2D quality anyway so at least my desktop will look better even if it won't play my games, and I haven't been disappointed yet. I can't honestly say the IQ is noticeably better than it was with my Ti4400 in the same games, but the frame rate is much higher and play seems smoother with no loss in frame rate from smoke, rocket trails etc.. like I had with the Ti4400 with AA enabled. Good job ATI and keep the good things coming, you might just keep an experimenting Nvidia customer

Feb 2, 2003, 07:38 PM	#25
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I'm happy with my current videocard...... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Feb 2, 2003, 07:39 PM	Thread Starter #26
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	I had a reckoning the poll might be quite negative for nvidia after reading the comments across this board and other boards on the net, but I have to say that after reading the posts and the figures, even im surprised.... I have a feeling Nvidia might not be selling too many of these cards.

Feb 2, 2003, 07:59 PM	#27
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	When I can get a 9700pro for around 220 dollars, I will buy one- It will be years before an FX comes down to a reasonable price. The 9700 pro looks like the way to go for the best price/performance ratio. __________________

Feb 2, 2003, 08:03 PM	#28
FuNsTeR Caledonian and Proud Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Darkest Ayrshire Posts: 1,305 Rep Power: 88 System Specs	happy with my Leadtek geoforce 4 TI 4400 8 x agp ... does the job i require of it ... and to be frank paying £260 to £300+ for a graphics card is not a option for me __________________ "They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic messages ..... but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install Windows"

Feb 2, 2003, 08:12 PM	#29
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	yeh the R350 Nvidia could just make the pricing more realistic and they might be competitive with ATI, got an over clocked Radeon 128 and it makes me happy, we all know they added at least 100 dollars to price of the high end thinking they could get it, ha! those FPS mean nothing without quality!! Me like RADEON, Gooood for fragging and Russian flight sim, yessss.. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Feb 2, 2003, 09:03 PM	#30
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	I have used several of the NoVideo cards, they are fussy and cant keep up with the picture quality of the ATI cards. I have an ATI 8500LE 128 DDR (retail) right now, and I love it. Tweak it a little and 10K is now problem. I am more than happy with this card , the price was right. Now I am just waiting for the 9700 PRO to get below $200, and then I will be super happy!! __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.