coolermaster aquagate - no for dual core

mike2h · Jun 9, 2006, 12:49 AM

i have gone through 2 units of their lga 775 vers & their tech support finally gave up & said it cant handle the heat.
my 940 goes to 6oc + within 30 secs fo bootup. so any body looking at one of these for any cpu that runs hot, dont.

PangingJr · Jun 13, 2006, 12:10 PM

"940 goes to 60c + within 30 secs fo bootup"

that must be something wrong with the CPU cooler setups, or it's simply not efficient enough to be used with the CPU.
stock heatsink and fan won't go that high that fast.

mike2h · Jun 13, 2006, 06:04 PM

it isnt deisgned to handle the loads of high heat cpus. would havew been nice if coolermaster would have let people know BEFORE buying it. i think it would do fine with anything under 90w but there is no way it could handle a cpu & something ekse.
what really sucks is that performance pc wont take it back because it is used. i guess i can understand with something like a h2o unit, but still,,,

soloz2 · Jun 16, 2006, 04:07 AM

yeah, those aren't very good units at all. if you want water you should go custom... it's really the only way to go

mike2h · Jun 16, 2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by soloz2

yeah, those aren't very good units at all. if you want water you should go custom... it's really the only way to go

got an alphacool kit on the way & got a replacement cpu coming from intel. cant believe intel wont do cross shipping! what a pain

soloz2 · Jun 16, 2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mike2h

got an alphacool kit on the way & got a replacement cpu coming from intel. cant believe intel wont do cross shipping! what a pain

most companies including AMD won't cross ship. Intel probably wants to test your cpu first. I'm not sure how Intel support is, but AMD has first class support. They tested a cpu for me, called me to tell me what they found and then shipped it back to me

what alphacool kit did you get?

mike2h · Jun 16, 2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by soloz2

most companies including AMD won't cross ship. Intel probably wants to test your cpu first. I'm not sure how Intel support is, but AMD has first class support. They tested a cpu for me, called me to tell me what they found and then shipped it back to me

what alphacool kit did you get?

christ, hope i didnt just spend $20 for them to ship the same one back to me & tell me it 'operates within specs'.

anyway this is what i ordered - http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-wat-81.html . got it today, cant do a thing with it

. looks like a cool setup though i dont plan on using the chipset or gpu core.
now i just got to figure out what to do with the coolermaster aquagate...

soloz2 · Jun 16, 2006, 10:29 PM

that's a good thing you aren't planning on using the chipset or gpu blocks!!!! it only has a single 120mm rad! w/ your cpu you should really go for a double.
If I were you I'd email frozencpu and tell them your system and say that you just had the thought that it might not be able to keep your cpu cool enough either... ask them to suggest a different setup.
the tt big water 745 would probably even be better because it can discipate more heat

if you want to go custom you can get much better temps for the same price.

and if your cpu operates within specs you prob did just waste $20. why exactly did you send it in?

mike2h · Jun 16, 2006, 11:51 PM

because it was idling between 58 - 60c & hitting 70c after 5-10 mins of guild wars. rebooted about the same amount of time in doom3.
i also ordered swiftechs nifty 'radbox'. so the radiator will be mounted on the outside of the case. if that isnt enough, f... it.

Asmoday · Jun 17, 2006, 12:00 AM

If you want a kit, I'd say Asetek has some kits that performs on par with many custom builds....

soloz2 · Jun 17, 2006, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mike2h

because it was idling between 58 - 60c & hitting 70c after 5-10 mins of guild wars. rebooted about the same amount of time in doom3.
i also ordered swiftechs nifty 'radbox'. so the radiator will be mounted on the outside of the case. if that isnt enough, f... it.

well I don't think they'll give you a new cpu...

yeah radboxes are nice. I actually mounted a dual heater core on one on the back of an X-Navigator case

I really do think that you're going to want a double rad w/ that cpu... it doesn't matter if Asetek makes good kits or not, a single rad just can't discipate enough heat to get you really great temps. You'll have to put a monster of a fan on it!

Blitzz · Jun 21, 2006, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike2h

i have gone through 2 units of their lga 775 vers & their tech support finally gave up & said it cant handle the heat.
my 940 goes to 6oc + within 30 secs fo bootup. so any body looking at one of these for any cpu that runs hot, dont.

60degree C? are you serious?

I went and bout a new P 940 (rev B1) and the Aquagate Mini 120 today after reading a few great reviews. I checked the back of the box to see if it supported Pentium Ds. The only thing refering to D was for Celerons.

Initially i installed the CPU with the stock HSF and the CPU temp was around 32degrees C. Next i installed the Aquagate 120 and i was amazed.. At bootup and idle in the bioshardware monitor screen, my cpu temp was 10degrees C ... Thats with the fan speed (fan on the radiator) set to the lowest setting. And currently while booted into windows XP and simi-idle the temp is only 14Degrees C..

With your issue, there could be an issue with you CPU, it could be fualty? Iv had a mate who bought a Pentium 4 CPU and the lowest temp that it got to was 45 degree (idle) with a stock HSF...

Reason i went with the Aquagate was that i didnt want to spend allot and i wanted a all in one beginners setup PLUS all reviews i read were good.

My basic setup is:
M/B: Asus P5N32-SLI-Deluxe (Nforce4 chipset)(rev A3)
CPU: Intel 940 (rev B1)
Ram: OCZ 1Gig DDR2
video: Saphire X800GT 256M (PCI-E)
Hdd: 2x200 Seagate Sata, 2x36Gig Seagate U160 SCSI.
Case: Coolermaster Stacker (full tower)
PSU: Antec NeoHe 550W

soloz2 · Jun 21, 2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitzz

60degree C? are you serious?

I went and bout a new P 940 (rev B1) and the Aquagate Mini 120 today after reading a few great reviews. I checked the back of the box to see if it supported Pentium Ds. The only thing refering to D was for Celerons.

Initially i installed the CPU with the stock HSF and the CPU temp was around 32degrees C. Next i installed the Aquagate 120 and i was amazed.. At bootup and idle in the bioshardware monitor screen, my cpu temp was 10degrees C ... Thats with the fan speed (fan on the radiator) set to the lowest setting. And currently while booted into windows XP and simi-idle the temp is only 14Degrees C..

With your issue, there could be an issue with you CPU, it could be fualty? Iv had a mate who bought a Pentium 4 CPU and the lowest temp that it got to was 45 degree (idle) with a stock HSF...

Reason i went with the Aquagate was that i didnt want to spend allot and i wanted a all in one beginners setup PLUS all reviews i read were good.

My basic setup is:
M/B: Asus P5N32-SLI-Deluxe (Nforce4 chipset)(rev A3)
CPU: Intel 940 (rev B1)
Ram: OCZ 1Gig DDR2
video: Saphire X800GT 256M (PCI-E)
Hdd: 2x200 Seagate Sata, 2x36Gig Seagate U160 SCSI.
Case: Coolermaster Stacker (full tower)
PSU: Antec NeoHe 550W

what is your ambient temps? something is reporting incorrectly. There is no way you are getting that low temps inless it is like 5 C in your room! The best water cooling can get is ambient, and I'm willing to bet it's warmer than 10 in your room!

~~hackerx~~ · Jun 21, 2006, 02:29 PM

if u are lookin to just cool the cpu,the corsair nautilus 500 does wonders.
And its cheap at $130 and everything is pretty much in one package(reservoir,pump,radiator etc..)

Blitzz · Jun 22, 2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by soloz2

what is your ambient temps? something is reporting incorrectly. There is no way you are getting that low temps inless it is like 5 C in your room! The best water cooling can get is ambient, and I'm willing to bet it's warmer than 10 in your room!

Well that was the result from yesterday. Today it has stablized at about 17degrees C for normal pc usage and the fan is still at its lowest setting. I did forget to say that where i am (australia) it is currently winter and the temp outside is about 19C.

To test that i had the correct reading. I installed speedfan and Asus Ai Boost. Both had the same readings for the CPU Temp and the motherboard temp at about 38C. I also did another initial test where I shut down the PC, powered it up with JUST the CPU (no HSF or aquagate), and bam after about 5secs the PC auto shut down (this shows that the sensors on the MB are working).

What I am really trying to say is.. I find it hard to think that the fualt is from the aquagate cooler. It looks more to be the CPU since the system has been tested on normal P4 and Celeron D CPU are they all have nice cool readings. I dont think there is a huge difference in temps for the P4 and P D... or is there?

soloz2 · Jun 22, 2006, 02:42 AM

I wasn't saying there was fault to the cooler... I'm saying there is no way your cpu temp is colder than it is outside when it's winter out! your mobo is reporting incorrect temps

Blitzz · Jun 22, 2006, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soloz2

I wasn't saying there was fault to the cooler... I'm saying there is no way your cpu temp is colder than it is outside when it's winter out! your mobo is reporting incorrect temps

I was refering to the sensors on the MB. hence teh test without HSF or aquagate. Plus it has the current bios update. The MB also has whats called Stack Cool 2 which is supposed to help with cooling. *shrugg*

soloz2 · Jun 22, 2006, 04:01 AM

I guarantee it's reporting incorrectly. get a hardware temp monitor and see what it says

MiDri · Jun 22, 2006, 04:16 AM

Blitzz is right, unless your using subzero cooling (liquid nitrogen, etc) your cpu temp will always be at LEAST ambient case temp + 5-10 degrees while idle.

mike2h · Jun 22, 2006, 07:21 AM

for reference the p4 630 is rated at about 80w while the p4 940 is rated at about 125w.
the coolermaster aquagate by coolermaster own admission( after i had already purchased it) cant handle my cpu or anything over the 80-90w range.
i also believe my cpu was running to hot & have a new one from intel getting here tomorrow. hopefully it is a 'c' stepping

Blitzz · Jun 22, 2006, 09:28 AM

Yes, will be interesting when you get the new P 940

What i did notice is.. on the aquagate mini box, the only Dualcore CPU they show has being compatible with is the Celeron. But then again, it works fine for my 940 (rev B1).

You also might want to update yout BIOS. I nearly shit my pants when i first put the 940 in, it booted, but no video. So quickly put the 830 back in, went to the asus webpage and bingo! I said i needed the latest BIOS for the MB to read teh 940 properly ..

good luck

Jun 9, 2006, 12:49 AM	#1
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	coolermaster aquagate - no for dual core i have gone through 2 units of their lga 775 vers & their tech support finally gave up & said it cant handle the heat. my 940 goes to 6oc + within 30 secs fo bootup. so any body looking at one of these for any cpu that runs hot, dont. __________________

Jun 13, 2006, 06:04 PM	Thread Starter #3
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	it isnt deisgned to handle the loads of high heat cpus. would havew been nice if coolermaster would have let people know BEFORE buying it. i think it would do fine with anything under 90w but there is no way it could handle a cpu & something ekse. what really sucks is that performance pc wont take it back because it is used. i guess i can understand with something like a h2o unit, but still,,, __________________

Jun 16, 2006, 04:07 AM	#4
soloz2 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	yeah, those aren't very good units at all. if you want water you should go custom... it's really the only way to go __________________ [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]CPU:[/COLOR] AMD Opteron 165 CCBBE @ 2.8Ghz [/COLOR] [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]Motherboard:[/COLOR] DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert [COLOR=red]Memory:[/COLOR] 2gb G.Skill F1-4000USU2-2 [COLOR=red]Video:[/COLOR] Asus 7900GT TOP @ 700/1700 [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-Fi Elite Pro [COLOR=red]HD:[/COLOR] 2x Seagate 250Gb RAID 0, 1 Seagate 320Gb [COLOR=red]Optical Drives:[/COLOR] Sony DVD-Rom, Plextor 16x DVD DL RW [COLOR=red]Case:[/COLOR] CM Stacker [COLOR=red]PSU:[/COLOR] PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 [COLOR=red]Cooling:[/COLOR] Custom Water [COLOR=yellow][COLOR=red]Keyboard/Mouse:[/COLOR] [/COLOR]Saitec Eclipse & Logitech MX518 with a Razer ExactMat mouse pad [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-fi > Soloz Audio Silver IC > Maxed PIMETA > Beyer DT 770 Pro/80 cans [COLOR=red]HTPC:[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]AMD 3800X2[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, G.Skill 2GB DDR400, MSI 6600GT, Haupauge PVR150, SB [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]Audigy 2ZS[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Samsung 16x DVD DL RW, Sunbeam Nuuo PSU, Antec P180 case, AC Freezer64 Pro, Viewsonic N2750w LCD HDTV Heatware eBay [/COLOR]

Jun 16, 2006, 10:29 PM	#8
soloz2 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	that's a good thing you aren't planning on using the chipset or gpu blocks!!!! it only has a single 120mm rad! w/ your cpu you should really go for a double. If I were you I'd email frozencpu and tell them your system and say that you just had the thought that it might not be able to keep your cpu cool enough either... ask them to suggest a different setup. the tt big water 745 would probably even be better because it can discipate more heat if you want to go custom you can get much better temps for the same price. and if your cpu operates within specs you prob did just waste $20. why exactly did you send it in? __________________ [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]CPU:[/COLOR] AMD Opteron 165 CCBBE @ 2.8Ghz [/COLOR] [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]Motherboard:[/COLOR] DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert [COLOR=red]Memory:[/COLOR] 2gb G.Skill F1-4000USU2-2 [COLOR=red]Video:[/COLOR] Asus 7900GT TOP @ 700/1700 [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-Fi Elite Pro [COLOR=red]HD:[/COLOR] 2x Seagate 250Gb RAID 0, 1 Seagate 320Gb [COLOR=red]Optical Drives:[/COLOR] Sony DVD-Rom, Plextor 16x DVD DL RW [COLOR=red]Case:[/COLOR] CM Stacker [COLOR=red]PSU:[/COLOR] PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 [COLOR=red]Cooling:[/COLOR] Custom Water [COLOR=yellow][COLOR=red]Keyboard/Mouse:[/COLOR] [/COLOR]Saitec Eclipse & Logitech MX518 with a Razer ExactMat mouse pad [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-fi > Soloz Audio Silver IC > Maxed PIMETA > Beyer DT 770 Pro/80 cans [COLOR=red]HTPC:[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]AMD 3800X2[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, G.Skill 2GB DDR400, MSI 6600GT, Haupauge PVR150, SB [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]Audigy 2ZS[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Samsung 16x DVD DL RW, Sunbeam Nuuo PSU, Antec P180 case, AC Freezer64 Pro, Viewsonic N2750w LCD HDTV Heatware eBay [/COLOR]

Jun 16, 2006, 11:51 PM	Thread Starter #9
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	because it was idling between 58 - 60c & hitting 70c after 5-10 mins of guild wars. rebooted about the same amount of time in doom3. i also ordered swiftechs nifty 'radbox'. so the radiator will be mounted on the outside of the case. if that isnt enough, f... it. __________________

Jun 13, 2006, 12:10 PM	#2
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	"940 goes to 60c + within 30 secs fo bootup" that must be something wrong with the CPU cooler setups, or it's simply not efficient enough to be used with the CPU. stock heatsink and fan won't go that high that fast.

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Jun 21, 2006, 02:29 PM	#14
~~hackerx~~ Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 494 Rep Power: 0	if u are lookin to just cool the cpu,the corsair nautilus 500 does wonders. And its cheap at $130 and everything is pretty much in one package(reservoir,pump,radiator etc..)

Jun 22, 2006, 02:42 AM	#16
soloz2 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	I wasn't saying there was fault to the cooler... I'm saying there is no way your cpu temp is colder than it is outside when it's winter out! your mobo is reporting incorrect temps __________________ [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]CPU:[/COLOR] AMD Opteron 165 CCBBE @ 2.8Ghz [/COLOR] [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]Motherboard:[/COLOR] DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert [COLOR=red]Memory:[/COLOR] 2gb G.Skill F1-4000USU2-2 [COLOR=red]Video:[/COLOR] Asus 7900GT TOP @ 700/1700 [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-Fi Elite Pro [COLOR=red]HD:[/COLOR] 2x Seagate 250Gb RAID 0, 1 Seagate 320Gb [COLOR=red]Optical Drives:[/COLOR] Sony DVD-Rom, Plextor 16x DVD DL RW [COLOR=red]Case:[/COLOR] CM Stacker [COLOR=red]PSU:[/COLOR] PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 [COLOR=red]Cooling:[/COLOR] Custom Water [COLOR=yellow][COLOR=red]Keyboard/Mouse:[/COLOR] [/COLOR]Saitec Eclipse & Logitech MX518 with a Razer ExactMat mouse pad [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-fi > Soloz Audio Silver IC > Maxed PIMETA > Beyer DT 770 Pro/80 cans [COLOR=red]HTPC:[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]AMD 3800X2[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, G.Skill 2GB DDR400, MSI 6600GT, Haupauge PVR150, SB [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]Audigy 2ZS[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Samsung 16x DVD DL RW, Sunbeam Nuuo PSU, Antec P180 case, AC Freezer64 Pro, Viewsonic N2750w LCD HDTV Heatware eBay [/COLOR]

Jun 22, 2006, 04:01 AM	#18
soloz2 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	I guarantee it's reporting incorrectly. get a hardware temp monitor and see what it says __________________ [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]CPU:[/COLOR] AMD Opteron 165 CCBBE @ 2.8Ghz [/COLOR] [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]Motherboard:[/COLOR] DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert [COLOR=red]Memory:[/COLOR] 2gb G.Skill F1-4000USU2-2 [COLOR=red]Video:[/COLOR] Asus 7900GT TOP @ 700/1700 [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-Fi Elite Pro [COLOR=red]HD:[/COLOR] 2x Seagate 250Gb RAID 0, 1 Seagate 320Gb [COLOR=red]Optical Drives:[/COLOR] Sony DVD-Rom, Plextor 16x DVD DL RW [COLOR=red]Case:[/COLOR] CM Stacker [COLOR=red]PSU:[/COLOR] PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 [COLOR=red]Cooling:[/COLOR] Custom Water [COLOR=yellow][COLOR=red]Keyboard/Mouse:[/COLOR] [/COLOR]Saitec Eclipse & Logitech MX518 with a Razer ExactMat mouse pad [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-fi > Soloz Audio Silver IC > Maxed PIMETA > Beyer DT 770 Pro/80 cans [COLOR=red]HTPC:[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]AMD 3800X2[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, G.Skill 2GB DDR400, MSI 6600GT, Haupauge PVR150, SB [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]Audigy 2ZS[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Samsung 16x DVD DL RW, Sunbeam Nuuo PSU, Antec P180 case, AC Freezer64 Pro, Viewsonic N2750w LCD HDTV Heatware eBay [/COLOR]

Jun 22, 2006, 04:16 AM	#19
MiDri DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 930 Rep Power: 0	Blitzz is right, unless your using subzero cooling (liquid nitrogen, etc) your cpu temp will always be at LEAST ambient case temp + 5-10 degrees while idle. __________________ [COLOR=Red] [COLOR=black]He is so happy, I just don't have the heart to tell him...[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Jun 22, 2006, 07:21 AM	Thread Starter #20
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	for reference the p4 630 is rated at about 80w while the p4 940 is rated at about 125w. the coolermaster aquagate by coolermaster own admission( after i had already purchased it) cant handle my cpu or anything over the 80-90w range. i also believe my cpu was running to hot & have a new one from intel getting here tomorrow. hopefully it is a 'c' stepping __________________

Jun 22, 2006, 09:28 AM	#21
Blitzz DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Yes, will be interesting when you get the new P 940 What i did notice is.. on the aquagate mini box, the only Dualcore CPU they show has being compatible with is the Celeron. But then again, it works fine for my 940 (rev B1). You also might want to update yout BIOS. I nearly shit my pants when i first put the 940 in, it booted, but no video. So quickly put the 830 back in, went to the asus webpage and bingo! I said i needed the latest BIOS for the MB to read teh 940 properly .. good luck Last edited by Blitzz; Jun 22, 2006 at 09:38 AM.