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Old Sep 28, 2006, 08:45 PM   #31
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Again, if you want a good budget dual ram then this is it

2x512mb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440

If that is a bit too much for you, you could get a 2x256mb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145477

So...sell the ram you have and get one of these.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 09:19 PM   #32
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I have one 512mb kingston DDR 400 PC3200, and 256mb of "Samsung" that im leaving out of this new computer.
if you only want to use 1 GB, then just buy another kingston 512 MB, make sure it's the same model with the one that you have, kingston makes an upgrade RAM module for that. and like i said before if you can exchange or return it, then i would not worry about that if i were you.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 09:24 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #33
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I have another idea for this computer, same case and evrything, but 1gb of dual channel DDR2, a E6300, and a X850XT PE (Had to skimp on the video card ) So should i get the one in this topic, and chance it with the RAM, or get this one?
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 09:30 PM   #34
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well, get this one?
i'd say get this one if it's a E6600 processor.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 09:33 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #35
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Im scared JK lol, but i dont want any other performance other than gaming, so ill ge with the conroe and a X1900GT and extend my budget .
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 09:45 PM   #36
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E6300 is just so so, and it may not better in game than the above set.

take your time before you decide to build this computer...
and if you like to build a Intel conroe-based computer... then let us know, list a full spec of whatever you have in mind again.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 10:09 PM   #38
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for the motherboard... try checking another... if you don't want to overclock you system, then you can go for something 965 chipset family of the Intel (brand name) own board... Intel releases many 965 chipset family board, check them out. or otherwise Asus or Gigabyte... go to their web sites and look for links to open the Conroe support motherboards web pages... and then you can check their prices at the newegg after...
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 10:20 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #39
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I have heard the TForce Biostar motherboards are good, and good for overclocking, which i plan to do some.
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Old Sep 28, 2006, 11:18 PM   #40
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there are many improvement in the new Intel 965 chipset family over the Intel 945P Express chipset...

as i see the price of the BIOSTAR TFORCE945P... i think you may just have to pay a bit more to get the newer/better chipsets board.
it's all up to you.

with the help of the new 965 chipset... i don't think you'll see this... if you use the processor under the 945P chipset. unless the system is overclocked...

and here's within XP x64... i'm sure it'll be faster, if i didn't mix the sizes and chips of the 4 RAM modules...
this is also with the help of the new Intel 965 chipset...
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 01:10 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #41
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So, is overclocking posible with the 965 chipset? Even the 945P?
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 02:17 AM   #42
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So, is overclocking posible with the 965 chipset? Even the 945P?
Of course it is. As long as the motherboard can do it. Most mATX motherboards are pretty much limited, and 945P chipset boards too. But a good board will work wonders.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 03:11 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #43
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Im gonna stick with that Biostar, i know someone who has it, and given him no trouble, with luck ill be ordering tomorrow night
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 04:29 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #44
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Sooo, i realized i have to have 2XPATA because i have 2 hard drives, and a optical drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135026 does that have a floppy slot thing? And i am gettin a 7900GS because i have to go with a nVidia chipset.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 05:07 AM   #45
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Sooo, i realized i have to have 2XPATA because i have 2 hard drives, and a optical drive. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135026 does that have a floppy slot thing? And i am gettin a 7900GS because i have to go with a nVidia chipset.
On Neweggs site for that link, 3rd picture in the image viewer, take a look at the top left of the motherboard, and you will see the floppy connector (which is black). Good thing about that board is that it has a full set of connectors, which nowadays, seeing 2 IDE/PATA connectors is becoming a rarity.

Of note, don't worry too much about not having enough IDE/PATA connectors as you could always hunt down an IDE/PATA to SATA converter like the Rosewill RC-204 that Newegg sells for $12.99. This will allow you to connect those IDE/PATA hard drives to the SATA connectors on your board. They won't increase PATA drives to SATA speed, but they do work for what they are designed for. HOWEVER, do not use it on the optical drive as you will get mixed results (it will either work, not work, or "appear" like it's working, but it will infact crap out).

And lastly, to what you said, "...And i am gettin a 7900GS because i have to go with a nVidia chipset." You should realize that you can use an ATI card on a board using an Nvidia chipset, an Intel, and thrice versa. The only real limitation is running a Crossfire or SLI setup on the others competing chipset. There is a way to get SLI to run on any chipset, including ATIs Crossfire boards, but not with current drivers. But again, you can use a video card from any manufacturer on any chipset (although some cards can have conflicts with certain chipsets, but that's not the norm).
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btw, the Biostar Tforce945P on the link that F1N3ST provides above uses Intel chipsets, not Ati's nor nviadia's, but as Tipstaff's mentioned you can use the 7900GS card under the board.

about the board... i went with what i think about it and as i saw it... first, it's a 945P chipset board and it's just not what i would use for conroe processor, and then second, as i saw it's Biostar, i've never think of Biostar when i want to buy a board.
i didn't look at it much at all after that... if it's a mATX board... many mATX motherboards are for OEM's... and hardly has overclocking features, less or no BIOS functions for that, no overclock facility.
however, it's just another and other people opinion. at the end, you decide.

okay, just visited the Biostar Tforce 945P product page
here is the spec for Biostar Tforce 945P --- note-- you've got to make sure the board is a Version 2.0 board.
only Version 2.0 board support the E6300 processor..
http://www.biostar.com.tw/t-series/p...ct_details.php
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Best boards for overclocking the Core 2 so far have been Asus, and to date the best boards I've seen quality and stability wise, no matter the chipset, have been either from Intel directly (which is no surprise due to their quality control), and Asus ('course, we forgive them for the goofup with the P5W DH not supporting Core 2 out of the box).

And as Panging hinted at, anyone that deals in boards knows that Biostar is never high on a list of board manufactuers to buy (infact, they are waaay down there on the list). Biostar, ECS, Epox, Pine, MSI (hate these mofos SOOOO MUCH), Chaintech, Soyo, PcChips, I-Will.. all names to stay away from. I've also personally stayed away from ABit, and Gigabyte these last few years too. They both used to be great companies, but the last few years their boards have been all over the place. Abit is just going consistantly downhill, while Gigabyte has had a good board, bad board, good board routine. Mind you Gigabytes 965 boards look promising so far, so you never know.
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Yeah, but the boards are like 20$ more :P
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well, don't know what to suggest... probaby not much.
since your budget is low, first suggestion is for you to stick with your budget and just build with the parts that you think it's best. or, go with this one... buy a more cheaper CPU now (anything P4 LGA775)... but get everything else at it's best you can (you can go for Asus 965 chipset board with RAID and with a better overclock features, more RAM, etc) and then upgrade the CPU later.
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Old Sep 29, 2006, 08:15 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #50
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Ill just stick with this mobo, even if i dont overclock ill be happy, ive been semi-happy with a Celeron D for 2 years
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