I want some opinions on new computer

Geminiwave · Sep 27, 2006, 06:51 AM

Id put this in the tech section but I want some general opinions instead of really detailed technical debates.

I'm thinking of building a new computer and I'd like to go with AMD X2 processors...now the tough part. AM2 or 939? I know AM2 is newer but ...939 is gunna be a WHOLE lot cheaper.

opinions?

SFOSOK · Sep 27, 2006, 06:56 AM

I'd say go for cheaper. While its good to hav ethe latest and greatest, it never lasts as long as u want it to. If u get hooked into that trend you find yourself throwing away money instead of looking for smart buys and focusing on what you actually need and will use it for.

Its all personal preference and how much your willing to spend.
I myself have 939 and it works fine for me. I'm considering upgrading to an Opteron 165 (lowest priced dual core opteron) when I can afford it.

Good luck with that though.

Edit: It also depends on how far into the future you plan on upgrading again. With computer technology you need to take into account the next time you will need to upgrade again into account.

Geminiwave · Sep 27, 2006, 06:58 AM

are the dual core opteron guys faster? like for games?

SFOSOK · Sep 27, 2006, 07:09 AM

I know they can go a lot faster than X2's, especially for the price. They are very good overclockers I hear and very stable with low volts. Hopefully a dual core Opteron user on here can give you more info on it.

Geminiwave · Sep 27, 2006, 07:20 AM

Hmmm, maybe I DO need to send something down to the tech section...

Sandok · Sep 27, 2006, 07:49 AM

Personally, I dunno but a Core 2 Duo CPU will be most probably cheaper and faster... But as for 939 or AM2, you want futurproofing?

AM2

Geminiwave · Sep 27, 2006, 08:01 AM

well thats my problem though..."futureproofing"??? no such thing. How is it futureproof? They both have PCIe. they both have dual core. I understand that AM2 may have some ramped up clock speeds but how many people upgrade their cpus? Not very many. I know I had plans to upgrade my athlon XP system but I never did. Now I'm looking at a dying agp card and wondering if paying 50% more for an AGP version of a card is worthwhile (especially since my processor is pretty weak).

Hmm i just dont know.

The other thing is that I already have the RAM on hand. if I get an AM2 I'll have to spend over $100 on ram. It saves me a bundle sticking with my DDR instead of using DDR2.

But again, I don't know what to do.

And sadly I found out that I have a limited timeframe since (as I said) I have a dying agp card.

Sandok · Sep 27, 2006, 08:11 AM

Well then you got two choices mate:

You wanna save a BIT of money: 939. You still get killer boards, great coolers, you already GOT the ram and its still a safe bet.

If you wanna spend a bit and be more free in your future upgrades (like you wanna switch to Intel or something), since the ram is DDR2, you'll be a bit futureproof. At least MORE than with the 939 socket.

But honeslty, see how much money you first save up. I dunno, I'm an intel man myself (especially with their latest CPUs) but as for AMD, price diff is unkown to me.

SFOSOK · Sep 27, 2006, 08:12 AM

I aggree, no such thing as future proofing.

Sandok · Sep 27, 2006, 08:45 AM

Not entirly but there is something called partial futureproofing and completely NO futurproofing.

If a guy was today to buy a AGP 478 Intel platform, he was obviously not futurproofing an inch. However, if he buys the LG775 platform SLI, he is futureproofing as much as technically possible.

Tipstaff · Sep 27, 2006, 08:47 AM

God damn I hate that term: futureproofing. I curse the twit that invented that word (is it even a word?). But your right, Sandok, it's all about thinking ahead to what you may do with the system, and not buying something that is "technically" obsolete, and has very little potential upgrade possibilty.. at least CPU wise.

Anyways, Gemini, look at it this way: the next time you want to upgrade, which will be around down the road? AM2. Remember, there are no more new processors being made for the 939. If you buy the 939 setup, and then want to upgrade your CPU or RAM down the line you will have to upgrade the mobo to get that faster CPU. Plus when you consider that SDRAM can cost up to 2 times more than DDR, what do you think DDR will cost now that DDR2 is the standard? Within a year or two DDR will be right where SDRAM is in comparison to DDR price wise.

Think of it more like this: you are spending an extra $100 now which would potentially save you 3x or more than that down the road if, or rather when you do decide to upgrade.

LHC · Sep 27, 2006, 01:03 PM

Personally, I'd say go AM2. It really isn't that expensive at all, and the extra pin on the processor is nice. You could always sell the old RAM you have maybe and get some money for new RAM. On Newegg you could find a DDR667 2 GB set for about $140 after rebates.

On Newegg there's also a nice 4200+ dual core for about $185

Just my $.02 *shrug*

Zelig · Sep 27, 2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminiwave

I understand that AM2 may have some ramped up clock speeds but how many people upgrade their cpus? Not very many.

You're correct there. I'm actually thinking of upgrading my cpu for the first time ever in one of my computers. I got a top of the line S939 mobo (DFI), and an Athlon 64 3000+ (good for 2.2 GHz). As it stands, I can upgrade to a dual-core (3800+, good for 2.6 GHz) cpu for less than I paid for my 3000+ originally, and probably sell off the 3000+ for a bit of cash.

I don't worry too much about what I'm going to do in the future with my hardware. I just make sure I have people to sell my old stuff to when I decide to upgrade.

Flexkill · Sep 27, 2006, 03:37 PM

go 939!!! AM2 only offers DDR2 and to me thats a joke at the moment! My 939 system still beats most AM2 systems out there....and it's plenty fast.

Matth · Sep 27, 2006, 03:38 PM

Building for now, it doesn't matter...

How much higher a CPU would it require to be worth upgrading?

The main issue now, is the RAM, since with AM2 and Intel both using DDR2, DDR has been declared obsolescent.

Mind you, unless you have a frequent upgrade schedule, the current DDR2 could end up giving way to something else by the time an upgrade is required.

Future proof? by the time an upgrade is needed, unless it's to a component that was "temporary" to start with, things are often not as future proof as you thought.

technonerd · Sep 27, 2006, 04:40 PM

The benchmark for AM2 and 929 is hardly noticable

I hate the word when people says "Futureproof" because there's no suchs thing. I heard the AMD is going to release a new cpu to X2 6000+ . My problem is, if I buy a latest AM2 motherboard that can handle the top end cpu right now, will this motherboard use the X2 6000+ ? IF not, then it is not furtureproof.

I basically would say that buying AM2 now would be a waste of money. Save your money and buy 939, cheap as possible because you already have the ram. Then use up rest of your money to buy me a beer

Even I tought about buying AM2 but I did turned away and brought the 939, I'm happy with it. I did that because I want to buy a new system later, thinking of Conroe.

Geminiwave · Sep 27, 2006, 10:07 PM

Well we'll put it this way:

I built my system 3 years ago. Its finally showing its age. I could breathe life into it by buying a 7600 GS. Then I'd be solid. I'd also probably try to get an AEGIA board since I want to play Cell Factor. But anyway I figure that'll give me what? Another year maybe? On the other hand if I get a nice dualcore right now with a decent graphics card then I wont have to update for another 2 or 3 years and by then I might be in much better shape financially (or I might not, I dont know)

the trouble is that I think my entire computer may be having problems. I know the graphics card is dying. But recently there are times when I'll turn on the computer and the bios will say "Failed Checksum". It just takes a quick restart but thats NOT inspiring confidence.

So anyway I havent been up on things lately. Is nforce4 the way to go or should I get nforce5? Or is ATI even an option for mobos?

and as far as core duo (since I may go that route if I have to buy DDR2) which chipset do I use? I understand nvidia is rather lackluster for intel boards (someone told me that anyway) so I'd want to stick with an intel chipset. Is that right?

Asmoday · Sep 27, 2006, 10:22 PM

Well if you decide to go the DDR2 route do not bother with AMD, just go straight ahead to Intel without passing go. The core 2 Duos kills anything AMD has to offer at the moment...especially if you plan to overclock any. (my cheap 6400 do 3.2 like nothing and my E6600 can do 3.5 with only a minor voltage bump)
But if you just want to breed some life into your current set up go ahead and pick up a nice and cheap X2 or Opteron, they are more than fast enough for most things you throw at it.

Judas · Sep 28, 2006, 12:42 AM

imo, i've suggested many to just stick with the 939 setup as the AM3 socket is saposed to "replace" the AM2 socket quite shortly.

Plus the Dollar saved on the 939 setup is worth spending more on other major components in which can be transfered and used on the next machine or perhaps after replacing the cpu/ram/mobo.

I don't know about you guys, but the AM2 variant of my system (problem being lack of decent AM2 board still not really available, and i mean ATI chipset variant), performance difference isn't worth the dollar spent. Alot of people are dumping there 939's and going intel or AM2, 939 is dirt cheap now.

pr0digal jenius · Sep 28, 2006, 01:28 AM

go conroe or go home

niceguyrichy · Sep 28, 2006, 02:08 AM

you strike me as not that bothered with competing with the benchmarkers, so I'd be inclined to say (only cos you mentioned money(otherwise I'd shout conroe) ) stick with 939 and buy yourself a nice cheap opteron

Geminiwave · Sep 28, 2006, 07:01 AM

For sure on the opteron? No X2 then?

Zelig · Sep 28, 2006, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminiwave

For sure on the opteron? No X2 then?

I'm getting an X2 for my S939 upgrade. The extra cache on an opteron would be nice, but the extra performance doesn't justify the cost. Opterons might have a better chance of higher overclocking potential, but it's a game of chance either way.

Flexkill · Sep 28, 2006, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelig

the extra performance doesn't justify the cost. Opterons might have a better chance of higher overclocking potential, but it's a game of chance either way.

Exactly!

Sandok · Sep 28, 2006, 02:53 PM

Honestly mate, I can only advise Core 2 Duo myself. The E6400 (for example that neon is selling or has sold, dunno) is as fast as a FX62 from AMD and it's only 210$!!! You can't beat that performance and if you DO wanna save money, than Intel is the way to go.

Add to that that the OC on the Core 2 Duo is just nuts.

And if you do go down that path, take the 965 Chipset that now has Crossfire and you are all set

Intel and ATI still together

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 28, 2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminiwave

For sure on the opteron? No X2 then?

Opterons aren't inherently faster due to any design decision or technical advantage... they're usually just produced with 'better' yields that tend to overclock on average higher... wouldn't bother for the premium unless you plan on OCing.

I agree with everyone saying C2D though.... the value there is insane overclocking or not.

Robert McClelland · Sep 29, 2006, 03:24 AM

Gemini I would wait next spring before upgrading

Vista be out by then. My Pc 3 1/2 years old allready almost pushing 4 years in Feb

I think. For me I'm waiting next spring/summer get my next PC because if you build now you be screwed and kicking your self like I said I should waited long ago. For me when I brought my pc I didn't know hyperthreading was comming out month after I brought my pc I was kinda piss. So I don't want get screwed again lol thats why I'm waiting right now trying resave up my money for pc right now. You should always look around before building a pc some of them comes with water cooling stuff already like at Ibuypower and cyperpower pc inc. Well anyway thats why I'm waiting because I want get right stuff for up comming vista when comes out who know what radeon card be comming out next year

Geminiwave · Sep 29, 2006, 09:50 AM

oo somebody moved this..I gues it did turn into a technical discussion.

uhh well see the problem Robert is that my graphics card is about to toast so I need to buy a new one. Its going to cost me an annoying amount of money soo I dunno...I kinda just wanted to upgrade.

why whould waiting for vista be advantageous? Its not really changing the standards. no dx10 yet or anything.

Sandok · Sep 29, 2006, 10:04 AM

I moved it

It was getting a bit well... Too technical

***Veridian3*** · Sep 29, 2006, 01:34 PM

My opinion is to go S939 AMD for cost reasons. Get the best CPU you can afford. Then decide which way you want to go, sli or crossfire. If you are going CF, get DFI's board. If you are going SLI, go with Asus. Then buy a single gfx card which matches your mobo and you have the option to add a second at a later date if needed.

Waiting until next year in my opinion is completely pointless because regardless of how long you wait there is always something newer and better just round the corner.

On the futureproofing front, it doesnt sound like this is really a concern because you are building to last about 3 years and by then even AM2 will be old hat (and prob 775 also).

Sep 27, 2006, 06:51 AM	#1
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	I want some opinions on new computer Id put this in the tech section but I want some general opinions instead of really detailed technical debates. I'm thinking of building a new computer and I'd like to go with AMD X2 processors...now the tough part. AM2 or 939? I know AM2 is newer but ...939 is gunna be a WHOLE lot cheaper. opinions? __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 06:56 AM	#2
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I'd say go for cheaper. While its good to hav ethe latest and greatest, it never lasts as long as u want it to. If u get hooked into that trend you find yourself throwing away money instead of looking for smart buys and focusing on what you actually need and will use it for. Its all personal preference and how much your willing to spend. I myself have 939 and it works fine for me. I'm considering upgrading to an Opteron 165 (lowest priced dual core opteron) when I can afford it. Good luck with that though. Edit: It also depends on how far into the future you plan on upgrading again. With computer technology you need to take into account the next time you will need to upgrade again into account. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 27, 2006, 06:58 AM	Thread Starter #3
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	are the dual core opteron guys faster? like for games? __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 07:09 AM	#4
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I know they can go a lot faster than X2's, especially for the price. They are very good overclockers I hear and very stable with low volts. Hopefully a dual core Opteron user on here can give you more info on it. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 27, 2006, 07:20 AM	Thread Starter #5
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	Hmmm, maybe I DO need to send something down to the tech section... __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 07:49 AM	#6
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Personally, I dunno but a Core 2 Duo CPU will be most probably cheaper and faster... But as for 939 or AM2, you want futurproofing? AM2

Sep 27, 2006, 08:01 AM	Thread Starter #7
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	well thats my problem though..."futureproofing"??? no such thing. How is it futureproof? They both have PCIe. they both have dual core. I understand that AM2 may have some ramped up clock speeds but how many people upgrade their cpus? Not very many. I know I had plans to upgrade my athlon XP system but I never did. Now I'm looking at a dying agp card and wondering if paying 50% more for an AGP version of a card is worthwhile (especially since my processor is pretty weak). Hmm i just dont know. The other thing is that I already have the RAM on hand. if I get an AM2 I'll have to spend over $100 on ram. It saves me a bundle sticking with my DDR instead of using DDR2. But again, I don't know what to do. And sadly I found out that I have a limited timeframe since (as I said) I have a dying agp card. __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 08:11 AM	#8
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Well then you got two choices mate: You wanna save a BIT of money: 939. You still get killer boards, great coolers, you already GOT the ram and its still a safe bet. If you wanna spend a bit and be more free in your future upgrades (like you wanna switch to Intel or something), since the ram is DDR2, you'll be a bit futureproof. At least MORE than with the 939 socket. But honeslty, see how much money you first save up. I dunno, I'm an intel man myself (especially with their latest CPUs) but as for AMD, price diff is unkown to me.

Sep 27, 2006, 08:12 AM	#9
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I aggree, no such thing as future proofing. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 27, 2006, 08:45 AM	#10
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Not entirly but there is something called partial futureproofing and completely NO futurproofing. If a guy was today to buy a AGP 478 Intel platform, he was obviously not futurproofing an inch. However, if he buys the LG775 platform SLI, he is futureproofing as much as technically possible.

Sep 27, 2006, 08:47 AM	#11
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	God damn I hate that term: futureproofing. I curse the twit that invented that word (is it even a word?). But your right, Sandok, it's all about thinking ahead to what you may do with the system, and not buying something that is "technically" obsolete, and has very little potential upgrade possibilty.. at least CPU wise. Anyways, Gemini, look at it this way: the next time you want to upgrade, which will be around down the road? AM2. Remember, there are no more new processors being made for the 939. If you buy the 939 setup, and then want to upgrade your CPU or RAM down the line you will have to upgrade the mobo to get that faster CPU. Plus when you consider that SDRAM can cost up to 2 times more than DDR, what do you think DDR will cost now that DDR2 is the standard? Within a year or two DDR will be right where SDRAM is in comparison to DDR price wise. Think of it more like this: you are spending an extra $100 now which would potentially save you 3x or more than that down the road if, or rather when you do decide to upgrade. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Sep 27, 2006, 01:03 PM	#12
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Personally, I'd say go AM2. It really isn't that expensive at all, and the extra pin on the processor is nice. You could always sell the old RAM you have maybe and get some money for new RAM. On Newegg you could find a DDR667 2 GB set for about $140 after rebates. On Newegg there's also a nice 4200+ dual core for about $185 Just my $.02 shrug __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 03:37 PM	#14
Flexkill DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville, TN. Music City USA Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	go 939!!! AM2 only offers DDR2 and to me thats a joke at the moment! My 939 system still beats most AM2 systems out there....and it's plenty fast. __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 03:38 PM	#15
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Building for now, it doesn't matter... How much higher a CPU would it require to be worth upgrading? The main issue now, is the RAM, since with AM2 and Intel both using DDR2, DDR has been declared obsolescent. Mind you, unless you have a frequent upgrade schedule, the current DDR2 could end up giving way to something else by the time an upgrade is required. Future proof? by the time an upgrade is needed, unless it's to a component that was "temporary" to start with, things are often not as future proof as you thought. __________________ Mary had a little lamb, Her father shot it dead Now Mary takes her lamb to school, Between two crusts of bread

Sep 27, 2006, 04:40 PM	#16
technonerd DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 594 Rep Power: 0	The benchmark for AM2 and 929 is hardly noticable I hate the word when people says "Futureproof" because there's no suchs thing. I heard the AMD is going to release a new cpu to X2 6000+ . My problem is, if I buy a latest AM2 motherboard that can handle the top end cpu right now, will this motherboard use the X2 6000+ ? IF not, then it is not furtureproof. I basically would say that buying AM2 now would be a waste of money. Save your money and buy 939, cheap as possible because you already have the ram. Then use up rest of your money to buy me a beer Even I tought about buying AM2 but I did turned away and brought the 939, I'm happy with it. I did that because I want to buy a new system later, thinking of Conroe.

Sep 27, 2006, 10:07 PM	Thread Starter #17
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	Well we'll put it this way: I built my system 3 years ago. Its finally showing its age. I could breathe life into it by buying a 7600 GS. Then I'd be solid. I'd also probably try to get an AEGIA board since I want to play Cell Factor. But anyway I figure that'll give me what? Another year maybe? On the other hand if I get a nice dualcore right now with a decent graphics card then I wont have to update for another 2 or 3 years and by then I might be in much better shape financially (or I might not, I dont know) the trouble is that I think my entire computer may be having problems. I know the graphics card is dying. But recently there are times when I'll turn on the computer and the bios will say "Failed Checksum". It just takes a quick restart but thats NOT inspiring confidence. So anyway I havent been up on things lately. Is nforce4 the way to go or should I get nforce5? Or is ATI even an option for mobos? and as far as core duo (since I may go that route if I have to buy DDR2) which chipset do I use? I understand nvidia is rather lackluster for intel boards (someone told me that anyway) so I'd want to stick with an intel chipset. Is that right? __________________

Sep 27, 2006, 10:22 PM	#18
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Well if you decide to go the DDR2 route do not bother with AMD, just go straight ahead to Intel without passing go. The core 2 Duos kills anything AMD has to offer at the moment...especially if you plan to overclock any. (my cheap 6400 do 3.2 like nothing and my E6600 can do 3.5 with only a minor voltage bump) But if you just want to breed some life into your current set up go ahead and pick up a nice and cheap X2 or Opteron, they are more than fast enough for most things you throw at it. __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Sep 28, 2006, 01:28 AM	#20
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	go conroe or go home

Sep 28, 2006, 07:01 AM	Thread Starter #22
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	For sure on the opteron? No X2 then? __________________

Sep 28, 2006, 02:53 PM	#25
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Honestly mate, I can only advise Core 2 Duo myself. The E6400 (for example that neon is selling or has sold, dunno) is as fast as a FX62 from AMD and it's only 210$!!! You can't beat that performance and if you DO wanna save money, than Intel is the way to go. Add to that that the OC on the Core 2 Duo is just nuts. And if you do go down that path, take the 965 Chipset that now has Crossfire and you are all set Intel and ATI still together

Sep 29, 2006, 03:24 AM	#27
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,647 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	Gemini I would wait next spring before upgrading Vista be out by then. My Pc 3 1/2 years old allready almost pushing 4 years in Feb I think. For me I'm waiting next spring/summer get my next PC because if you build now you be screwed and kicking your self like I said I should waited long ago. For me when I brought my pc I didn't know hyperthreading was comming out month after I brought my pc I was kinda piss. So I don't want get screwed again lol thats why I'm waiting right now trying resave up my money for pc right now. You should always look around before building a pc some of them comes with water cooling stuff already like at Ibuypower and cyperpower pc inc. Well anyway thats why I'm waiting because I want get right stuff for up comming vista when comes out who know what radeon card be comming out next year __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Sep 29, 2006, 09:50 AM	Thread Starter #28
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	oo somebody moved this..I gues it did turn into a technical discussion. uhh well see the problem Robert is that my graphics card is about to toast so I need to buy a new one. Its going to cost me an annoying amount of money soo I dunno...I kinda just wanted to upgrade. why whould waiting for vista be advantageous? Its not really changing the standards. no dx10 yet or anything. __________________

Sep 29, 2006, 10:04 AM	#29
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	I moved it It was getting a bit well... Too technical

Sep 29, 2006, 01:34 PM	#30
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,027 Rep Power: 181	My opinion is to go S939 AMD for cost reasons. Get the best CPU you can afford. Then decide which way you want to go, sli or crossfire. If you are going CF, get DFI's board. If you are going SLI, go with Asus. Then buy a single gfx card which matches your mobo and you have the option to add a second at a later date if needed. Waiting until next year in my opinion is completely pointless because regardless of how long you wait there is always something newer and better just round the corner. On the futureproofing front, it doesnt sound like this is really a concern because you are building to last about 3 years and by then even AM2 will be old hat (and prob 775 also).