JackHammer Chips?

The375Boy · Mar 4, 2003, 02:35 AM

When are the "Jackhammer" chips sopposed to be out, to my understanding they were sopposed to be out last summer but i havent heard anything about their release!

JavaFox · Mar 4, 2003, 03:01 AM

Clawhammer and Sledgehammer, perhaps?

Sledgehammer should be out this year.

The375Boy · Mar 4, 2003, 07:18 PM

Yeah that musta been them, their like 4 ghz chips right? ( if so thats them)

DaSnIpE · Mar 5, 2003, 01:55 AM

what? they won't hit 4 ghz fro a long time, they barely handle 2 ghz, they might release in 4000+ lol

The375Boy · Mar 5, 2003, 02:17 AM

Oh, well i guess my friend was jus talkin out his ass then, So if not 4 ghz, wuts gonna be so special about them???

ToshiroOC · Mar 5, 2003, 10:17 AM

64 bit computing + brand new core with 1MB cache = Very Very Fast. Also, memory controller is on the CPU instead of on the Northbridge, so the time it takes to get info from RAM is extremely reduced.

The375Boy · Mar 5, 2003, 11:54 AM

Damn, no wonder y everyone is waiting for em to come out, everything is gonna be madly priced down too! are they intel or AMD?

ToshiroOC · Mar 5, 2003, 11:58 AM

They are AMD chips. The more expensive and more powerful server variants of the chips are going to be called Opterons and are going to be released relatively soon... though the desktop chips are still somewhat far away...

WyreTheWolf · Mar 5, 2003, 04:21 PM

Athlon 64

[img]/wyre/Athlon64.jpg[/img]

Opteron

[img]/wyre/Opteron.jpg[/img]

Just to give you an idea of the complexity of the new processors.

The375Boy · Mar 5, 2003, 05:09 PM

Wow this kicks ass, i thought they were intel NICE, THANX!!

WyreTheWolf · Mar 5, 2003, 05:11 PM

Not a problem... Intel is not the end all, and be all of the processor world

Just keep that in mind

The375Boy · Mar 5, 2003, 05:30 PM

Oh trust me i know i hate intel

WyreTheWolf · Mar 5, 2003, 05:40 PM

LMFurryAO ! I know how you feel... I bought my Athlon XP 1600+ (AGOIA core) for 46 dollars shipped! and immediatly took it to a 166FSB. At that speed it takes a 2.53GHz P4 to keep up... not too bad for a processor that cost FAR less. I dont hate Intel, but I have been burned with the constant socket changes.

DaSnIpE · Mar 5, 2003, 05:50 PM

Whose models' are those? lol

WyreTheWolf · Mar 5, 2003, 05:58 PM

those images are available at www.amd.com

The375Boy · Mar 5, 2003, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by WyreTheWolf
LMFurryAO ! I know how you feel... I bought my Athlon XP 1600+ (AGOIA core) for 46 dollars shipped! and immediatly took it to a 166FSB. At that speed it takes a 2.53GHz P4 to keep up... not too bad for a processor that cost FAR less. I dont hate Intel, but I have been burned with the constant socket changes.

ok check this out, i have a xp2700 and the best thing about AMD's is u can overclock them ALOT, but with P4's they can only be overclocked 200 mhz more, heres the sad thing. i did a test amd without a heatsink, and then a pen the pen got into windows then shut down the amd only got to DOS

DaSnIpE · Mar 6, 2003, 02:53 AM

Intel's can be oc'ed way over 200mhz, but the mhz/performance ratio is higher in AMD's

WyreTheWolf · Mar 6, 2003, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The375Boy
ok check this out, i have a xp2700 and the best thing about AMD's is u can overclock them ALOT, but with P4's they can only be overclocked 200 mhz more, heres the sad thing. i did a test amd without a heatsink, and then a pen the pen got into windows then shut down the amd only got to DOS

If you pulled the heatsink off of your AMD Athlon, and powered it up... it would be dead in less than 3/10ths of a second.

BWX · Mar 6, 2003, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The375Boy
ok check this out, i have a xp2700 and the best thing about AMD's is u can overclock them ALOT, but with P4's they can only be overclocked 200 mhz more, heres the sad thing. i did a test amd without a heatsink, and then a pen the pen got into windows then shut down the amd only got to DOS

WTF? "and then a pen"? what are you talking about?

Why the hell would anyone do a so called "test" and turn on your PC without a heatsink attached to the CPU?

I gotta know what you are talking about man, I have a couple names for you in my head right now. I really want you to make them go away by telling us what you mean.

The375Boy · Mar 6, 2003, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX232
WTF? "and then a pen"? what are you talking about?

Why the hell would anyone do a so called "test" and turn on your PC without a heatsink attached to the CPU?

I gotta know what you are talking about man, I have a couple names for you in my head right now. I really want you to make them go away by telling us what you mean.

ok i build ALOT of computers and i have about 15 mother boards laying around ( mostly under 600 mhz) and alot of processors (again mostly under 600 mhz) so i just got 2 mobo's and threw an AMD processor in one and a pentium celeron in the other WITHOUT heatsinks it was just a simple test on wich one would come out on top now i didnt pay shit for all the parts and i have a hell of alot more and their not worth anything to anyone so f*ck it lol the AMD got into dos and turned off and was all black and chared, but the celeron booted win M.E. b4 it shut down, and when it did i put a heatsink on it and it worked ( not prefectly but eh, wut the hell) so that was my Stress test on AMD Vs. INTEL like i said they didnt cost me anything and their not worth anything to anyone

BWX · Mar 7, 2003, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The375Boy
ok i build ALOT of computers and i have about 15 mother boards laying around ( mostly under 600 mhz) and alot of processors (again mostly under 600 mhz) so i just got 2 mobo's and threw an AMD processor in one and a pentium celeron in the other WITHOUT heatsinks it was just a simple test on wich one would come out on top now i didnt pay shit for all the parts and i have a hell of alot more and their not worth anything to anyone so f*ck it lol the AMD got into dos and turned off and was all black and chared, but the celeron booted win M.E. b4 it shut down, and when it did i put a heatsink on it and it worked ( not prefectly but eh, wut the hell) so that was my Stress test on AMD Vs. INTEL like i said they didnt cost me anything and their not worth anything to anyone

Ohhh, I thought by reading your post you did that to a 2700+xp or something! I understand about the old cpu's that are basically worth nothing. Ya scared me there for a sec., I mean who in their right mind would fry a 2700xp on purpose? I got an old AMDk6-2 450mgz w/ motherboard in the closet, but wouldn't someone on e-bay want it for 10 dollars or so? For what reason I'm not sure, but I thought there were people who still wanted these old things.

The375Boy · Mar 8, 2003, 01:04 AM

yeah believe it or not i can get half-life running PREFECT on a 400 mhz inter or AMD, yeah bro lol i aint that rich to just blow up my 2700 lol thats my baby right there!!! ( i'm GOINNA DO IT I:M GONNA HIT 100 TONIGHT lol)

Mar 4, 2003, 02:35 AM	#1
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	JackHammer Chips? When are the "Jackhammer" chips sopposed to be out, to my understanding they were sopposed to be out last summer but i havent heard anything about their release!

Mar 4, 2003, 07:18 PM	Thread Starter #3
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	Hmmm Yeah that musta been them, their like 4 ghz chips right? ( if so thats them) __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 5, 2003, 01:55 AM	#4
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	what? they won't hit 4 ghz fro a long time, they barely handle 2 ghz, they might release in 4000+ lol __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Mar 5, 2003, 02:17 AM	Thread Starter #5
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	Oh, well i guess my friend was jus talkin out his ass then, So if not 4 ghz, wuts gonna be so special about them??? __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 5, 2003, 10:17 AM	#6
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	64 bit computing + brand new core with 1MB cache = Very Very Fast. Also, memory controller is on the CPU instead of on the Northbridge, so the time it takes to get info from RAM is extremely reduced. __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 4, 2003, 03:01 AM	#2
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Clawhammer and Sledgehammer, perhaps? Sledgehammer should be out this year.

Mar 5, 2003, 11:54 AM	Thread Starter #7
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	Damn, no wonder y everyone is waiting for em to come out, everything is gonna be madly priced down too! are they intel or AMD? __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 5, 2003, 11:58 AM	#8
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	They are AMD chips. The more expensive and more powerful server variants of the chips are going to be called Opterons and are going to be released relatively soon... though the desktop chips are still somewhat far away... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 5, 2003, 04:21 PM	#9
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	Athlon 64 [img]/wyre/Athlon64.jpg[/img] Opteron [img]/wyre/Opteron.jpg[/img] Just to give you an idea of the complexity of the new processors.

Mar 5, 2003, 05:09 PM	Thread Starter #10
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	Wow this kicks ass, i thought they were intel NICE, THANX!! __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 5, 2003, 05:11 PM	#11
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	Not a problem... Intel is not the end all, and be all of the processor world Just keep that in mind

Mar 5, 2003, 05:30 PM	Thread Starter #12
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	BAH! Oh trust me i know i hate intel __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 5, 2003, 05:40 PM	#13
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	LMFurryAO ! I know how you feel... I bought my Athlon XP 1600+ (AGOIA core) for 46 dollars shipped! and immediatly took it to a 166FSB. At that speed it takes a 2.53GHz P4 to keep up... not too bad for a processor that cost FAR less. I dont hate Intel, but I have been burned with the constant socket changes.

Mar 5, 2003, 05:50 PM	#14
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	Whose models' are those? lol __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Mar 5, 2003, 05:58 PM	#15
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	those images are available at www.amd.com

Mar 6, 2003, 02:53 AM	#17
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	Intel's can be oc'ed way over 200mhz, but the mhz/performance ratio is higher in AMD's __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Mar 8, 2003, 01:04 AM	Thread Starter #22
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	yeah believe it or not i can get half-life running PREFECT on a 400 mhz inter or AMD, yeah bro lol i aint that rich to just blow up my 2700 lol thats my baby right there!!! ( i'm GOINNA DO IT I:M GONNA HIT 100 TONIGHT lol) __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu