CD-writer sick, recommendations for new one??

Frodo301 · Mar 5, 2003, 04:39 AM

After many successful burns, my Philips 12x burner is beginning to show the wear and tear of just how many cds I've burned on it. It spits out coasters left and right these days, has problems loading some disks, and sometimes locks the whole OS by constantly trying to access a cd placed into it. I burn disks on this particular computer almost daily and need something I can count on as a replacement. I've been looking at several brands LG, TDK, Samsung & Lite On. Lite On looks like a winner in price and quality but the LG and Samsung brands look nice as well. I have a TDK burner in another computer at home and would prefer not to have to spend the $$$ on that name again as I'm pretty sure they sell repackaged Lite On drives anyway. Anyone have any recommendations for a decent burner?

Dom · Mar 5, 2003, 04:51 AM

Lite-On - LTR-48246S or LTR-52246S.

toddsmack2k · Mar 5, 2003, 04:54 AM

how much you wanting to spend?

Necrosis · Mar 5, 2003, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
Lite-On - LTR-48246S or LTR-52246S.

Ditto on this.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 5, 2003, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frodo301
After many successful burns, my Philips 12x burner is beginning to show the wear and tear of just how many cds I've burned on it. It spits out coasters left and right these days, has problems loading some disks, and sometimes locks the whole OS by constantly trying to access a cd placed into it. I burn disks on this particular computer almost daily and need something I can count on as a replacement. I've been looking at several brands LG, TDK, Samsung & Lite On. Lite On looks like a winner in price and quality but the LG and Samsung brands look nice as well. I have a TDK burner in another computer at home and would prefer not to have to spend the $$$ on that name again as I'm pretty sure they sell repackaged Lite On drives anyway. Anyone have any recommendations for a decent burner?

and have you tryed a cdrom drive cleaner disk? sounds like mabe you got gunk on the lenses...

merry · Mar 5, 2003, 08:05 AM

Just in case you missed it, try this thread

nieves · Mar 5, 2003, 12:55 PM

Philips aren't so great when it comes to CD-RW drives. I'd recommend a TEAC or Plextor. Especially TEAC (which I'm very fond of), very stable and long endurance... Works like a dream and it's particularly silent...

Don't buy Liteon, they're cheap, noisy and prone to fail. So I noticed.

merry · Mar 5, 2003, 02:05 PM

Yup, nieves, I am also a big fan of TEAC (andy happy owner of an older model). But it might be that we get low quality Liteons around here. For some reason nobody "else" (outside Romania) seems to be liking TEAC... Most of my friends have TEACs, and none ever complained, although they were bought "bulk" (not retail).

Could be that this company doesn't manufacture cheap low quality third world editions.

nieves · Mar 5, 2003, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by merry
Could be that this company doesn't manufacture cheap low quality third world editions.

LOL! I totally forgot I'm living in a third world country. How could I ever miss that?

WyreTheWolf · Mar 5, 2003, 03:09 PM

TDK is indeed a rebadged Lite-ON.

As far as some of the comments made about Lite-ON being cheap, and of poor quality...
I point you to the following reviews.

TweakTown

CDRlabs

CDfreaks

Cnet

Everyone pretty much had the same things to say... The drive is a high quality, high speed, inexpensive piece of kit that will last you for a long time.

Personal experiance:

I have been using a LiteON CD-RW for almost 2 years. The same LiteON that when I bought it was operating at 24x, with a flash of the firmware it is now running at 36x! I have worked for two different local computer companies. Over the course of that last three years, I have probably assembled over three hundred new computer systems. Nearly all of them had LiteON CD-RW drives in them. Personal experiance has shown me that the LiteON drives are of higher quality than the Sony, LG electronics, Recoh... I have had less failures with LiteON than any other drive. For me, there simply is not a better drive available.

Necrosis · Mar 5, 2003, 04:55 PM

I often hear it's more of a problem with Lite-On DVD Rom drives more than anything. I have yet to see any problems with their burners. Personal experience w/ six different computers running them 0% failture rate.

DaSnIpE · Mar 5, 2003, 05:51 PM

I love my LG 16x10x40x burner, never given me any probs, and was cheap, so no worries there

Dom · Mar 5, 2003, 07:42 PM

I never had a burning error with my old 32x Lite-On nor with my 52x.

ToshiroOC · Mar 5, 2003, 11:57 PM

I have a Lite-On DVD drive, and it works completely perfectly... very fast, though a mite loud. I'd vouch for the company

megatron · Mar 6, 2003, 01:24 AM

24102b Lite-On. After installing the MCP-2 IDE driver to replace the Nvidia one it works in my Epox 8RDA+. It is total quality, no problems at all. Although it seems I can't flash it any higher according toe the CD-Freaks forum (who should know their stuff). I can't imagine buying a 52* CD-RW when the 24* still works - what is an extra 5min? LOL.

EcPercy · Mar 6, 2003, 01:32 AM

probably using easy coaster creator software? i have heard from several people that Liteon is a very good brand. I have an old 4x4x32 teac in my server... still works like a charm and i have a Acer 12x8x32 in my pc and have had 0 problems

Necrosis · Mar 6, 2003, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EcPercy
probably using easy coaster creator software? i have heard from several people that Liteon is a very good brand. I have an old 4x4x32 teac in my server... still works like a charm and i have a Acer 12x8x32 in my pc and have had 0 problems

Ha,ha thats a good one Ed...Easy Coaster Creator...LOL!!! It's not that bad now after about 1 million updates. However, I still prefer Nero since it's still too sloppy.

Tosh. I wasn't really knocking their DVD Roms. I've installed a view of these and was just going off what I heard. I prefer Toshiba or Sony though for DVD Roms though. I would say Pioneer but I can't find a black slot loading DVD Rom from them.

merry · Mar 6, 2003, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WyreTheWolf
As far as some of the comments made about Lite-ON being cheap, and of poor quality...

That wasn't my point, just that maybe Lite-ons available *here* are cheap/low-quality. They aren't very popular, anyway.

Frodo301 · Mar 6, 2003, 12:24 PM

I've already tried the cd laser cleaner with no dice. This burner gets *heavy* daily use and I think it has worn out. I have about $120.00 to spend but considering how inexpensive the Lite-On and the reviews I've seen I'm really leaning towards them at the moment. I'll have to look up info on the Teac as well. I would like a silent burner, the Philips always sounded like it was gearing up for take off from an aircraft carrier.

ToshiroOC · Mar 6, 2003, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by Necrosis
Tosh. I wasn't really knocking their DVD Roms. I've installed a view of these and was just going off what I heard. I prefer Toshiba or Sony though for DVD Roms though. I would say Pioneer but I can't find a black slot loading DVD Rom from them.

Ya, but I figure it's always better to have one extra opinion in the mix

BWX · Mar 6, 2003, 01:50 PM

I have an extra 52 x 24 x 52 lite-on that I just bought. I made sure it works by installing it and burning 1 cd and doing the tests that came w/ the NeroBurning software.(the test said it would burn up to 58 times for some reason-maybe they do?) It is in Original packaging- I have been sitting on it to make sure company doesn't want it back- I called and bitched because it didn't come after a week so they must have given me a free-bee for the trouble. (I guess)
If they call and want it back after I sell this one, I will just have to pay the difference, I'll take my chances.

If nobody wants it it's going on E-bay.

Oh, I forgot to say, this thing is amazingly fast- It will burn a 800mb disc in about 2 nimutes. I really don't need 2 of them, although it would look kinda cool in my rig.

*edit-- forgot to say- retail boxed- Never sold anything on line in my life, so this may be easier than E-bay.
I would have put this in the Buy-Sell part of the forums, but I wasn't really planning on selling it just yet, but it looks like someone needs it.

Louie6666 · Mar 8, 2003, 11:56 PM

Are liteon still rebadging plextor running gear

lol I'm still using 5 year old panasonic 4 x CD-R, only get occasional coaster (not burners fault mine).....I use the burner as an excuse to have break while it burns away

I'm starting to get jealous of my friends burning stuff in under 3mins....would mind getting combo dvd/Cdrw anyone got much experience with em some input would be nice

WyreTheWolf · Mar 9, 2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Louie6666
Are liteon still rebadging plextor running gear lol I'm still using 5 year old panasonic 4 x CD-R, only get occasional coaster (not burners fault mine).....I use the burner as an excuse to have break while it burns away I'm starting to get jealous of my friends burning stuff in under 3mins....would mind getting combo dvd/Cdrw anyone got much experience with em some input would be nice

LiteON was never a rebadged Plextor... LiteON is a OEM manufacturer... Everyone else puts Their name on LiteON products, and call it Their own.

Some Sony drives, and TDK drives are actually just rebadged LiteON drives.

The 52X24X52 CD-RW drive manufactured by LiteON is one of the most advanced, and fasted drives available on the market. Excellent drive.

Have one myself

BWX · Mar 9, 2003, 03:20 AM

My 52x24x52x Lit-on can burn an 800 mb cd (music) in 2 min and 11 seconds-- In the test that Nero (the software that the drive comes with) does- it says my drive can record up to 58x speed- It's fast, really fast. And no clicks, pops, or other abnormal sounds on the recorded disc-- Very good drive at great price. I would recommend to my mom. I think they're great.

Louie6666 · Mar 9, 2003, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WyreTheWolf
LiteON was never a rebadged Plextor... LiteON is a OEM manufacturer... Everyone else puts Their name on LiteON products, and call it Their own.

Some Sony drives, and TDK drives are actually just rebadged LiteON drives.

The 52X24X52 CD-RW drive manufactured by LiteON is one of the most advanced, and fasted drives available on the market. Excellent drive.

Have one myself

Quote:

We have been unable to confirm rumours that Plextor's parent company, Shinano Kenshi of Japan, in fact manufactures the LTR-12101 model for Taiwan-based Lite-On Tech, Corp.) In any event, the Plextor and Lite-On drives have very close average writing speeds, and the Lite-On drives (particularly the new LTR-24102B model), achieve very respectable scores in benchmark tests.

http://pcbuyersguide.com/hardware/st...-JustLink.html

I had read a couple of articles, like this but on further inspection they are just what it say rumours

WyreTheWolf · Mar 9, 2003, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Louie6666
http://pcbuyersguide.com/hardware/st...-JustLink.html

I had read a couple of articles, like this but on further inspection they are just what it say rumours

Hmmm... I will have to check into this...

I have a Plextor, and a LiteON in the shop.

I will just have to take them apart and check the internals.

Let you know if there is any differences.

kinetic · Mar 15, 2003, 01:48 PM

I've got a TDK Cyclone. I know it's a rebadged LiteOn but I got a good deal on it and it hasn't let me down yet.

BWX · Mar 15, 2003, 02:02 PM

Well I wish someone would here would buy mine, I hate e-bay, I really don't want to sell it there---- I had someone who was gonna trade for a sound card here at DH- then someone else was going to buy it, I told him I was already trading for a soundcard with someone else, then the guy I was trading w/ said he's keeping his soundcard. Meanwhile the guy that was going to buy it went to newegg and bought one. Bummer- Now I have this bran new 52x24x52x sitting in this retail box, and I have a pci16 (pile of junk) sound card in my computer. You would think out of 15,000+ members someone here would want a good deal on an awsome CD-burner. Guess not.

WyreTheWolf · Mar 15, 2003, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WyreTheWolf
Hmmm... I will have to check into this...

I have a Plextor, and a LiteON in the shop.

I will just have to take them apart and check the internals.

Let you know if there is any differences.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but there wasnt a singles shared component between the two drives, they were of similar speed... and the only component that was the same between the two was the drive motor... which is a pretty common component.

Frodo301 · Mar 17, 2003, 04:09 AM

I ended up with the 52x24x52x that I purchased through Newegg. Got some decent 48x rated cd-rs today, hope by tommorow to be burning in the fast lane.

Mar 5, 2003, 04:39 AM	#1
Frodo301 Outraged Join Date: May 2002 Location: The mountains Posts: 584 Rep Power: 0	CD-writer sick, recommendations for new one?? After many successful burns, my Philips 12x burner is beginning to show the wear and tear of just how many cds I've burned on it. It spits out coasters left and right these days, has problems loading some disks, and sometimes locks the whole OS by constantly trying to access a cd placed into it. I burn disks on this particular computer almost daily and need something I can count on as a replacement. I've been looking at several brands LG, TDK, Samsung & Lite On. Lite On looks like a winner in price and quality but the LG and Samsung brands look nice as well. I have a TDK burner in another computer at home and would prefer not to have to spend the $$$ on that name again as I'm pretty sure they sell repackaged Lite On drives anyway. Anyone have any recommendations for a decent burner?

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Mar 5, 2003, 08:05 AM	#6
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Mar 5, 2003, 12:55 PM	#7
nieves personality tweaker Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Jormania Posts: 288 Rep Power: 0	Philips aren't so great when it comes to CD-RW drives. I'd recommend a TEAC or Plextor. Especially TEAC (which I'm very fond of), very stable and long endurance... Works like a dream and it's particularly silent... Don't buy Liteon, they're cheap, noisy and prone to fail. So I noticed. __________________

Mar 5, 2003, 02:05 PM	#8
merry gargouille Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Posts: 962 Rep Power: 0	Yup, nieves, I am also a big fan of TEAC (andy happy owner of an older model). But it might be that we get low quality Liteons around here. For some reason nobody "else" (outside Romania) seems to be liking TEAC... Most of my friends have TEACs, and none ever complained, although they were bought "bulk" (not retail). Could be that this company doesn't manufacture cheap low quality third world editions. __________________ There is a war between the ones who say there is a war and the ones who say there isn't. ~~Leonard Cohen

Mar 5, 2003, 04:51 AM	#2
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Lite-On - LTR-48246S or LTR-52246S.

Mar 5, 2003, 03:09 PM	#10
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	TDK is indeed a rebadged Lite-ON. As far as some of the comments made about Lite-ON being cheap, and of poor quality... I point you to the following reviews. TweakTown CDRlabs CDfreaks Cnet Everyone pretty much had the same things to say... The drive is a high quality, high speed, inexpensive piece of kit that will last you for a long time. Personal experiance: I have been using a LiteON CD-RW for almost 2 years. The same LiteON that when I bought it was operating at 24x, with a flash of the firmware it is now running at 36x! I have worked for two different local computer companies. Over the course of that last three years, I have probably assembled over three hundred new computer systems. Nearly all of them had LiteON CD-RW drives in them. Personal experiance has shown me that the LiteON drives are of higher quality than the Sony, LG electronics, Recoh... I have had less failures with LiteON than any other drive. For me, there simply is not a better drive available.

Mar 5, 2003, 04:55 PM	#11
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I often hear it's more of a problem with Lite-On DVD Rom drives more than anything. I have yet to see any problems with their burners. Personal experience w/ six different computers running them 0% failture rate.

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Mar 5, 2003, 07:42 PM	#13
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	I never had a burning error with my old 32x Lite-On nor with my 52x.

Mar 5, 2003, 11:57 PM	#14
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Mar 6, 2003, 01:24 AM	#15
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Mar 6, 2003, 01:32 AM	#16
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	probably using easy coaster creator software? i have heard from several people that Liteon is a very good brand. I have an old 4x4x32 teac in my server... still works like a charm and i have a Acer 12x8x32 in my pc and have had 0 problems

Mar 6, 2003, 12:24 PM	Thread Starter #19
Frodo301 Outraged Join Date: May 2002 Location: The mountains Posts: 584 Rep Power: 0	I've already tried the cd laser cleaner with no dice. This burner gets heavy daily use and I think it has worn out. I have about $120.00 to spend but considering how inexpensive the Lite-On and the reviews I've seen I'm really leaning towards them at the moment. I'll have to look up info on the Teac as well. I would like a silent burner, the Philips always sounded like it was gearing up for take off from an aircraft carrier.

Mar 6, 2003, 01:50 PM	#21
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I have an extra 52 x 24 x 52 lite-on that I just bought. I made sure it works by installing it and burning 1 cd and doing the tests that came w/ the NeroBurning software.(the test said it would burn up to 58 times for some reason-maybe they do?) It is in Original packaging- I have been sitting on it to make sure company doesn't want it back- I called and bitched because it didn't come after a week so they must have given me a free-bee for the trouble. (I guess) If they call and want it back after I sell this one, I will just have to pay the difference, I'll take my chances. If nobody wants it it's going on E-bay. Oh, I forgot to say, this thing is amazingly fast- It will burn a 800mb disc in about 2 nimutes. I really don't need 2 of them, although it would look kinda cool in my rig. edit-- forgot to say- retail boxed- Never sold anything on line in my life, so this may be easier than E-bay. I would have put this in the Buy-Sell part of the forums, but I wasn't really planning on selling it just yet, but it looks like someone needs it. __________________ Last edited by BWX; Mar 6, 2003 at 01:58 PM.*

Mar 8, 2003, 11:56 PM	#22
Louie6666 Just One Sick-Lizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Are liteon still rebadging plextor running gear lol I'm still using 5 year old panasonic 4 x CD-R, only get occasional coaster (not burners fault mine).....I use the burner as an excuse to have break while it burns away I'm starting to get jealous of my friends burning stuff in under 3mins....would mind getting combo dvd/Cdrw anyone got much experience with em some input would be nice __________________

Mar 9, 2003, 03:20 AM	#24
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	My 52x24x52x Lit-on can burn an 800 mb cd (music) in 2 min and 11 seconds-- In the test that Nero (the software that the drive comes with) does- it says my drive can record up to 58x speed- It's fast, really fast. And no clicks, pops, or other abnormal sounds on the recorded disc-- Very good drive at great price. I would recommend to my mom. I think they're great. __________________

Mar 15, 2003, 01:48 PM	#27
kinetic DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester England Posts: 2,559 Rep Power: 0	I've got a TDK Cyclone. I know it's a rebadged LiteOn but I got a good deal on it and it hasn't let me down yet.

Mar 15, 2003, 02:02 PM	#28
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Well I wish someone would here would buy mine, I hate e-bay, I really don't want to sell it there---- I had someone who was gonna trade for a sound card here at DH- then someone else was going to buy it, I told him I was already trading for a soundcard with someone else, then the guy I was trading w/ said he's keeping his soundcard. Meanwhile the guy that was going to buy it went to newegg and bought one. Bummer- Now I have this bran new 52x24x52x sitting in this retail box, and I have a pci16 (pile of junk) sound card in my computer. You would think out of 15,000+ members someone here would want a good deal on an awsome CD-burner. Guess not. __________________

Mar 17, 2003, 04:09 AM	Thread Starter #30
Frodo301 Outraged Join Date: May 2002 Location: The mountains Posts: 584 Rep Power: 0	I ended up with the 52x24x52x that I purchased through Newegg. Got some decent 48x rated cd-rs today, hope by tommorow to be burning in the fast lane.