Wut do u think about TCPA?

The375Boy · Mar 12, 2003, 01:45 PM

http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html

EDIT by ToshiroOC: Merged your two threads and kept the more informative subject title.

The375Boy · Mar 12, 2003, 01:48 PM

whatt will you do when this comes into play (TCPA) dont know what it is? here: http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html

ToshiroOC · Mar 12, 2003, 01:53 PM

I will continue to use AMD chips, since AMD has so far said that it will not implement any technology in its hardware that will restrict it's user's usage. This sort of thing is directly anti-open-source, since the validation source for any Palladium-style authentication needs to be closed by definition, otherwise anything at all can validate... and thus defeating the purpose of TCPA tech

DuTcHBoYy420 · Mar 12, 2003, 04:20 PM

yeah but it said its going to come into everything Ei. Cd-roms, hard driver, motherboards, almost every piece of hardware u can think of for a PC

Tempmeyes · Mar 12, 2003, 04:37 PM

Then either bypass's will be made or a great deal of people will perform the "last upgrade"

dipstick · Mar 12, 2003, 07:07 PM

I guess I'll stop using PCs sometime in the near future if this goes through. These people seriously gotta get off the drugs

ToshiroOC · Mar 12, 2003, 10:33 PM

Well, at risk of being called alarmist, BUY NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

They'll lose too many sales if everyone starts putting in Palladium controls ala TCPA, and even if they still go ahead with it, there will be a way around it, even if it means simply not using any Palladium-enabled programs

The375Boy · Mar 12, 2003, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tempmeyes
Then either bypass's will be made or a great deal of people will perform the "last upgrade"

bypass... 2048 bit strong encryption, have fun

-={420}=- · Mar 13, 2003, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The375Boy
Wut do u think about TCPA?

Uh Uh! NO WAY!

Rayder · Mar 13, 2003, 08:53 AM

The best possible thing you could do in this case is to just NOT buy any PC products that contain that garbage. If it doesn't sell, they'll have to abandon the idea.

The375Boy · Mar 13, 2003, 07:38 PM

dude, their gonna be in every piece of hardware (no software)

DallasStar · Mar 13, 2003, 07:41 PM

i strongly doubt that this will be in every piece of software/hardware. I'm sure there are companies out there that will refuse to use this in their products. If not in the USA, then in Taiwan and Hong Kong!

The375Boy · Mar 13, 2003, 08:19 PM

no software, only hardware, but still this is against our rights!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 13, 2003, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ToshiroOC
Well, at risk of being called alarmist, BUY NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! They'll lose too many sales if everyone starts putting in Palladium controls ala TCPA, and even if they still go ahead with it, there will be a way around it, even if it means simply not using any Palladium-enabled programs

this is very old news.... it was belived the hardware industry would never ever let it pass ... becouse it aslo specifacly bans users from Upgradeing thier systems... there for all the compmanies selling hardware only customers would be system builders like hp or compaq etc... ant not sold to the public.

Mar 12, 2003, 01:45 PM	#1
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	Nooo, This Cant Happen!!!!!!! http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html EDIT by ToshiroOC: Merged your two threads and kept the more informative subject title. __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 12, 2003, 01:48 PM	Thread Starter #2
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	Wut do u think about TCPA? whatt will you do when this comes into play (TCPA) dont know what it is? here: http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 12, 2003, 01:53 PM	#3
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	I will continue to use AMD chips, since AMD has so far said that it will not implement any technology in its hardware that will restrict it's user's usage. This sort of thing is directly anti-open-source, since the validation source for any Palladium-style authentication needs to be closed by definition, otherwise anything at all can validate... and thus defeating the purpose of TCPA tech __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 12, 2003, 10:33 PM	#7
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, at risk of being called alarmist, BUY NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! They'll lose too many sales if everyone starts putting in Palladium controls ala TCPA, and even if they still go ahead with it, there will be a way around it, even if it means simply not using any Palladium-enabled programs __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 13, 2003, 07:38 PM	Thread Starter #11
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	dude, their gonna be in every piece of hardware (no software) __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu

Mar 12, 2003, 04:20 PM	#4
DuTcHBoYy420 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: CrImElaNd NJ Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	yeah but it said its going to come into everything Ei. Cd-roms, hard driver, motherboards, almost every piece of hardware u can think of for a PC

Mar 12, 2003, 04:37 PM	#5
Tempmeyes DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Then either bypass's will be made or a great deal of people will perform the "last upgrade"

Mar 12, 2003, 07:07 PM	#6
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	I guess I'll stop using PCs sometime in the near future if this goes through. These people seriously gotta get off the drugs

Mar 13, 2003, 08:53 AM	#10
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	The best possible thing you could do in this case is to just NOT buy any PC products that contain that garbage. If it doesn't sell, they'll have to abandon the idea.

Mar 13, 2003, 07:41 PM	#12
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	i strongly doubt that this will be in every piece of software/hardware. I'm sure there are companies out there that will refuse to use this in their products. If not in the USA, then in Taiwan and Hong Kong! __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Mar 13, 2003, 08:19 PM	Thread Starter #13
The375Boy LowRyder LifeStyle Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Vineland NJ Posts: 710 Rep Power: 0	no software, only hardware, but still this is against our rights! __________________ Antec SHOHO AMG plus view AMD64 3200+ FSB-133 asus K8v SE Deluxe PC2700 Maxtor 80gig ATA133 7200 RPM 8mb cache Maxtor 30 gig 5600RPM Creative 6.1 surround speakers ATI RADEON 9800 PRO + stage 1 OcSystems Microsoft Windows Xp Pro sp2 SB live 5.1 sound card Logitech cordless elite Duo 450 watt Psu