Harddrive problem

dirtyp · Dec 6, 2006, 09:24 AM

Just built a new pc, Took the drives out of my other one and when I fire up windows it tells me thats there no drives installed. Is there a bios setting or something im missing?
They were both working earlier in the day, the specs are below the drives I put in my other machine are working. The newer board uses raid,and sata and other stuff im not familiar with im not sure if im supposed to disable something or what, It came with a single ide I pulled the double wire out the old machine.
asrock 775 dual vista mobo
p4 2.8
1 gb ddr2 ram
100 gb ide and 40 gb ide
m-audio mobile pre
16xdvd burner

**temeteus82** · Dec 6, 2006, 10:07 AM

Hi There!
I assume that the drives are PATA drives. So make sure that they are connected. For 2 PATA drives you need cable that has three connectors, one for the motherboard and two for the drives. And make sure that the drives jumpers are set correctly. That the drive you have Windows installed is master and the other is slave. Hope this helps.

dirtyp · Dec 6, 2006, 07:50 PM

its the same config as my old pc, 100g master 40 gig slave.
I thought there ide same connector as my dvd,cd rom but the mobo says ata.
I used the old connector from my other machine, since it has the double side for hdd, but since the mobo came with a single is it possible it doesnt support 3-4 ide connections it says it does. here a pic
http://www.supergooddeal.com/PhotoGa...2D775D%2DVISTA

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 6, 2006, 07:52 PM

IDE controllers support 2 drives each.

If you have 1 IDE port it will support 1 master and 1 slave device.

If you have 2 it will support 2 master and 2 slave devices.

You have 1 IDE port meaning 1 IDE controller, meaning 2 drives.

dirtyp · Dec 6, 2006, 08:13 PM

i was saying it came with a single wire so is it possible it only supports two total drives,
it does have two ports it has them labeled master and slave but only the slave dvd,cd was reading correct. thats why i posted the pic.

**temeteus82** · Dec 6, 2006, 08:27 PM

you have 2 x ata connectors. so you can have max 2x master and 2x slave drives. put your hard drives to the blue connector and dvd to the black.

PangingJr · Dec 6, 2006, 09:12 PM

775Dual-VSTA's product page...
http://www.asrock.com/product/775Dual-VSTA.htm

Quote:

Connector
- 2 x Serial ATA 1.5 Gb/s connectors, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, and JBOD) and Hot Plug functions
- 2 x ATA133 IDE connectors (support 4 x IDE devices)
- 1 x Floppy connector

775Dual-VSTA's manual....
http://www.asrock.com/manual/775Dual-VSTA.pdf

Quote:

BIOS SETUP UTILITY

Advanced Screen -> IDE Configuration

OnBoard IDE Controller

Use this item to enable or disable the onboard IDE controller.

SATA Operation Mode

Use this item to adjust SATA Operation Mode. The default value of this option is [RAID]. If you don’t want to operate RAID function on SATA HDDs, please select [non-RAID].

IDE Device Configuration

You may set the IDE configuration for the device that you specify. We will use the “Primary IDE Master” as the example in the following instruction, which can be applied to the configurations of “Primary IDE Slave”, “Secondary IDE Master”, and “Secondary IDE Slave” as well.

TYPE

Use this item to configure the type of the IDE device that you specify.

Configuration options: [Not Installed], [Auto], [CD/DVD], and [ARMD].

[Not Installed]: Select [Not Installed] to disable the use of IDE device.

[Auto]: Select [Auto] to automatically detect the hard disk drive.

After selecting the hard disk information into BIOS, use a disk utility, such as FDISK, to partition and format the new IDE hard disk drives. This is necessary so that you can write or read data from the hard disk. Make sure to set the partition of the Primary IDE hard disk drives to active.

[CD/DVD]: This is used for IDE CD/DVD drives.

[ARMD]: This is used for IDE ARMD (ATAPI Removable Media Device), such as MO.

LBA/Large Mode
Use this item to select the LBA/Large mode for a hard disk > 512 MB under DOS and Windows; for Netware and UNIX user, select [Disabled] to disable the LBA/Large mode.

Block (Multi-Sector Transfer)
The default value of this item is [Auto]. If this feature is enabled, it will enhance hard disk performance by reading or writing more data during each transfer.

PIO Mode
Use this item to set the PIO mode to enhance hard disk performance by optimizing the hard disk timing.

DMA Mode
DMA capability allows the improved transfer-speed and data-integrity for compatible IDE devices.

S.M.A.R.T.
Use this item to enable or disable the S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology) feature. Configuration options: [Disabled], [Auto], [Enabled].

32-Bit Data Transfer
Use this item to enable 32-bit access to maximize the IDE hard disk data transfer rate.

PangingJr · Dec 6, 2006, 11:20 PM

sorry i can't edit above post due to my browsers/proxo settings for linux's are not quite ready yet.

read your motherboard manual and check the following...

- Master and Slave jumpers settings on hard drive's and CD/DVD drives
- 80-wire IDE cables. and how you connect these cables to your IDE devices and the IDE connectors on the motherboard.
- BIOS settings under both the "Advanced" screen/IDE Configuration and "Boot" screen.

Quote:

775Dual-VSTA's manual....
http://www.asrock.com/manual/775Dual-VSTA.pdf

BIOS SETUP UTILITY

Boot Screen

In this section, it will display the available devices on your system for you to configure the boot settings and the boot priority.

dirtyp · Dec 7, 2006, 02:29 AM

I found the problem it was the power supply only one of the connectors was working so it only powered my dvd burner and cd rom, I switched the power wire and it detected my hard drives and not my roms.So i have to try to return the power supply hopefully its not a hassle and they dont want me to send the whole tower.Thanks for trying to help.

Dyre Straits · Dec 7, 2006, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtyp

I found the problem it was the power supply only one of the connectors was working so it only powered my dvd burner and cd rom, I switched the power wire and it detected my hard drives and not my roms.So i have to try to return the power supply hopefully its not a hassle and they dont want me to send the whole tower.Thanks for trying to help.

That's a real shame on the PSU. Is it new, too?

In the meantime, you could possibly use some Y splitters to get power to everything.

PangingJr · Dec 7, 2006, 06:05 AM

hah, you had pay attention to what yourself said about "They were both working earlier in the day" then.
now i think it would be better off for you and your computer in the long run if you could buy a separate power supply.
i believe Enermax or some other well known brands have some good budget power supplies in 350W/400W range.

dirtyp · Dec 7, 2006, 11:00 AM

the drives were working in my other pc, yeah its a new power supply 450 watt.the main reason I bought the rig was I couldnt get a good price on a tower and psu, I found cheap cpu,mobos,ram,but they wanted $15 to ship the case.So I got the case,450 psu,mobo,2.8 p4 800fsb for 150 shipped.The mobo is upgradable to conroes so I can get a fast pc step by step, I got 1gb ddr2 ram for 85. And was about to buy a 512mb x1600 pro for 99 but I hesitated remebering low benchmarks and the sale is over. Anyways I sent the company I bought this from a email around 7.p.m. waiting for them to get back to me, if they make me ship the whole case to them ill flip... Im sopposed to have a 1yr warranty but you know how that goes if they give me a hassle Ill just return it since I bought it a few days ago.Where would I get the y splitters from radio shack? I could use just common ones or do i need a pc version.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 7, 2006, 05:50 PM

As long as the connector for the Y connector fits the way you want use any version you want

Dec 6, 2006, 09:24 AM	#1
dirtyp DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Harddrive problem Just built a new pc, Took the drives out of my other one and when I fire up windows it tells me thats there no drives installed. Is there a bios setting or something im missing? They were both working earlier in the day, the specs are below the drives I put in my other machine are working. The newer board uses raid,and sata and other stuff im not familiar with im not sure if im supposed to disable something or what, It came with a single ide I pulled the double wire out the old machine. asrock 775 dual vista mobo p4 2.8 1 gb ddr2 ram 100 gb ide and 40 gb ide m-audio mobile pre 16xdvd burner __________________ www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsproductions www.soundclick.com/faithrose www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsclick www.soundclick.com/dirtypstaxbrix www.myspace.com/staxbrix www.myspace.com/dirtypocketsproductions

Dec 6, 2006, 07:50 PM	Thread Starter #3
dirtyp DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	its the same config as my old pc, 100g master 40 gig slave. I thought there ide same connector as my dvd,cd rom but the mobo says ata. I used the old connector from my other machine, since it has the double side for hdd, but since the mobo came with a single is it possible it doesnt support 3-4 ide connections it says it does. here a pic http://www.supergooddeal.com/PhotoGa...2D775D%2DVISTA __________________ www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsproductions www.soundclick.com/faithrose www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsclick www.soundclick.com/dirtypstaxbrix www.myspace.com/staxbrix www.myspace.com/dirtypocketsproductions Last edited by dirtyp; Dec 6, 2006 at 07:58 PM.

Dec 6, 2006, 08:13 PM	Thread Starter #5
dirtyp DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	i was saying it came with a single wire so is it possible it only supports two total drives, it does have two ports it has them labeled master and slave but only the slave dvd,cd was reading correct. thats why i posted the pic. __________________ www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsproductions www.soundclick.com/faithrose www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsclick www.soundclick.com/dirtypstaxbrix www.myspace.com/staxbrix www.myspace.com/dirtypocketsproductions

Dec 7, 2006, 02:29 AM	Thread Starter #9
dirtyp DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	I found the problem it was the power supply only one of the connectors was working so it only powered my dvd burner and cd rom, I switched the power wire and it detected my hard drives and not my roms.So i have to try to return the power supply hopefully its not a hassle and they dont want me to send the whole tower.Thanks for trying to help. __________________ www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsproductions www.soundclick.com/faithrose www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsclick www.soundclick.com/dirtypstaxbrix www.myspace.com/staxbrix www.myspace.com/dirtypocketsproductions

Dec 7, 2006, 11:00 AM	Thread Starter #12
dirtyp DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	the drives were working in my other pc, yeah its a new power supply 450 watt.the main reason I bought the rig was I couldnt get a good price on a tower and psu, I found cheap cpu,mobos,ram,but they wanted $15 to ship the case.So I got the case,450 psu,mobo,2.8 p4 800fsb for 150 shipped.The mobo is upgradable to conroes so I can get a fast pc step by step, I got 1gb ddr2 ram for 85. And was about to buy a 512mb x1600 pro for 99 but I hesitated remebering low benchmarks and the sale is over. Anyways I sent the company I bought this from a email around 7.p.m. waiting for them to get back to me, if they make me ship the whole case to them ill flip... Im sopposed to have a 1yr warranty but you know how that goes if they give me a hassle Ill just return it since I bought it a few days ago.Where would I get the y splitters from radio shack? I could use just common ones or do i need a pc version. __________________ www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsproductions www.soundclick.com/faithrose www.soundclick.com/dirtypocketsclick www.soundclick.com/dirtypstaxbrix www.myspace.com/staxbrix www.myspace.com/dirtypocketsproductions Last edited by dirtyp; Dec 7, 2006 at 11:06 AM.

Dec 6, 2006, 07:52 PM	#4
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	IDE controllers support 2 drives each. If you have 1 IDE port it will support 1 master and 1 slave device. If you have 2 it will support 2 master and 2 slave devices. You have 1 IDE port meaning 1 IDE controller, meaning 2 drives.

Dec 7, 2006, 06:05 AM	#11
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	hah, you had pay attention to what yourself said about "They were both working earlier in the day" then. now i think it would be better off for you and your computer in the long run if you could buy a separate power supply. i believe Enermax or some other well known brands have some good budget power supplies in 350W/400W range.

Dec 7, 2006, 05:50 PM	#13
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	As long as the connector for the Y connector fits the way you want use any version you want