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Old Dec 15, 2006, 02:41 PM   #1
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Check out my new 24" LCD

look what I got for my birthday

BenQ FP241W 24" HDMI

its so nice... if only I had some HD movies or an xbox360 which I could hook up to it with the HDMI cable. Might get one next year.

(yes I know bad pictures but it will have to do)
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man your desktop is a mess
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Old Dec 15, 2006, 03:59 PM   #3
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looks nice .

now, would you have gotten one by Logitech if they made a 24in. monitor w/the same specs?
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looks nice .

now, would you have gotten one by Logitech if they made a 24in. monitor w/the same specs?
no best review and user reviews count.
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mmm congratulations man, very good.
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look what I got for my birthday

BenQ FP241W 24" HDMI

its so nice... if only I had some HD movies or an xbox360 which I could hook up to it with the HDMI cable. Might get one next year.

(yes I know bad pictures but it will have to do)
(yes I do have to much logitech stuff)
Nice....Whats HDMI cable?
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HDMI is the new HDTV standard in use.... it's a pure digital video/audio connection between whatever devices it'll work with.

Many new HDTVs have HDMI in.
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Cool monitor man.Ur desktop is a mess though.How much did u pay for it?
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I think his desk looks very clean and tidy.
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i love the adjustable height.... something the CHIMEIs should have implemented
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gotta love the High Def multi-functional monitors...mine doesn't do HDMI, but it's does do HDCP compliant DVI & component/composite...which is plenty good for me and my non-XBox 360/PS3/next-gen optical disc player self anyways...hell..my next-gen disc player will be internal SATA/IDE anyways
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I like the FP241W, was on my list but ended up getting the Dell 2407WFP because it does 1:1. It's cool that the BenQ has HDMI, but since i don't have anything that uses that, i chose the 1:1 feature of the Dell.
I have the XBox360 and the HD-DVD player through the VGA right now and if ever i get something that uses HDMI, i will hook it up to a DLP tv that i'm planning on getting in the new year.

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I like the FP241W, was on my list but ended up getting the Dell 2407WFP because it does 1:1. It's cool that the BenQ has HDMI, but since i don't have anything that uses that, i chose the 1:1 feature of the Dell.
I have the XBox360 and the HD-DVD player through the VGA right now and if ever i get something that uses HDMI, i will hook it up to a DLP tv that i'm planning on getting in the new year.

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benq has a new 1:1 firmware out if you buy your monitor in january. moreover has the dell banding issues which is mentioned in several reviews etc. It doesnt have a very good display quality and this is mentioned in several reviews. Find it out that for gaming you choose the dell instead of the benq since the benq is hailed by many as the first gaming and picture perfect 24" LCD
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benq has a new 1:1 firmware out if you buy your monitor in january. moreover has the dell banding issues which is mentioned in several reviews etc. It doesnt have a very good display quality and this is mentioned in several reviews. Find it out that for gaming you choose the dell instead of the benq since the benq is hailed by many as the first gaming and picture perfect 24" LCD
The banding issues have for the most part been fixed, and I haven't had any issues with quality at all. Never mind I bought mine for dirt cheap.
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24 inch monitors with component and HDMI input is the best thing to buy right now.Most of them can display 1080P content too.
Thats somethin 20 inch widescreens can't do.And thats why i'm holding out on getting a monitor.
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What is the 1:1 thing you are talking about?

Native resolution of an LCD, in my case is 1920x1200. If you play a game which has a max res of 1024x768 then the monitor will scale the image to 1920x1200. This can result in blurry or stretched images. So you have the option to run it in 1:1 where the 1024 will be displayed as 1024 and the remaning space filled with black.
Top picture is fill mode, buttom is 1:1





Using XBox360, the fill mode will stretch the image verticaly. If you look at the top pic you will see the radar in the bottom left is oval, instead of round in the bottom pic which is 1:1





How much this bothers you is, well, up to you. Text could look unsharp is another example. Purists will appreciate 1:1 modes but to each his own.
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benq has a new 1:1 firmware out if you buy your monitor in january. moreover has the dell banding issues which is mentioned in several reviews etc. It doesnt have a very good display quality and this is mentioned in several reviews. Find it out that for gaming you choose the dell instead of the benq since the benq is hailed by many as the first gaming and picture perfect 24" LCD
I might not have read every single review, but my 2407wfp is revision a03 and everything looks good. MaximumPC chose this model for their dream machine, gave it a 9+kickass and gave it best lcd of 2006. So for every bad review there is a good review. I'll go back and look at some reviews of the BenQ.

And what do you mean for gaming? Are we still talking about ghosting? Didn't that die in 2005? I have thrown many games at my dell and have never noticed any anomalies.

Like i said, the BenQ was at the top of my list too. In fact i was thinking of getting both the dell and benq and then deciding which one is better and keeping that one and selling the other. Or just keep both and have dual 24s . There was an open-box discounted at ncix, almost went for it.
I would love to try the BenQ. Have to see it with the new firmware. For now I'm enjoying my 24" and i'm sure you are too. Game on!
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I dont know how true it is but I have read lots of times that there are only 3 or 4 companies that make LCD's of every type.LG,Samsung, and I cant remember the other one.
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Native resolution of an LCD, in my case is 1920x1200. If you play a game which has a max res of 1024x768 then the monitor will scale the image to 1920x1200. This can result in blurry or stretched images. So you have the option to run it in 1:1 where the 1024 will be displayed as 1024 and the remaning space filled with black.
Top picture is fill mode, buttom is 1:1


Using XBox360, the fill mode will stretch the image verticaly. If you look at the top pic you will see the radar in the bottom left is oval, instead of round in the bottom pic which is 1:1


How much this bothers you is, well, up to you. Text could look unsharp is another example. Purists will appreciate 1:1 modes but to each his own.
ahh thats why you want 1:1 mode .... of course that would bother me in some games, especially BF2 which has no wide screen support. But 1:1 gaming etc. is no problem....


and I run everything of my PC (graphics card) so I didnt need the 1:1 on the monitor or I would have waited 1 month (now I need to send it in for an update)

I didnt even realize thats why people want a 1:1 option cause I always thought you just tick this setting in the drivers!?
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Just to clarify what HDMI is - it is not a High Definition standard like 720p or 1080i, but it is the connector and cable through which the digital information for video and audio are transmitted between devices.

Here's a nifty faq...

Nice display there germanjulian, and the desk reminds me of my own a couple of days after I clean it up - no, mine's much worse.

Gateway sells one similar too...
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Beautiful monitor and a happy belated birthday.

Isn't everyone missing the point or is it just me? The Xbox360 doesnt have HDMI. It outputs it's high definition through component leads. Microsoft at this point have no plans to include HDMI and even if they wanted to it would mean a hardware revision which would piss off those with the current model.
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and I run everything of my PC (graphics card) so I didnt need the 1:1 on the monitor or I would have waited 1 month (now I need to send it in for an update)

I didnt even realize thats why people want a 1:1 option cause I always thought you just tick this setting in the drivers!?

Yes, you can use the PC's drivers but that won't work for external devices, like gaming consoles.
Will you send it in for the update?

I just found something out. Anything over 1280x1024 disables 1:1. So much for that feature! Just when the 360 gets 1080 support, i can't display it in 1080, but will have to settle for it being scaled to 1200. Anyways, the monitor does a good job of scaling, so it's not the end of the world, i much rather have good picture quality, and i'm satisfied with the Dell even with the limitations of the LCD technolgy in general.

When i get a DLP, i'll have the 360 hooked to that, so the monitor will be strictly for the PC. Then i'll have the monitor'ss settings and the gpu drivers to make the Dell do what *I* want... [insert Shao Khan voice] Bow to me Dell... muhahaha...
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Old Dec 30, 2006, 06:44 PM   #27
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Nice monitor. Working on getting a Dell 2407wfp a3 rev. for half price through a joint purchase :P
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 06:42 PM   #28
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Hows that monitor working out Julian? u send it in for the update? are all the inputs and outputs functioning as should? ive read with a DVI connection some peeps lose the DVI signal if the monitor is switched off while CPU is on? any input, im juggling between this and a Dell 2407
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Old Feb 10, 2007, 08:32 PM   #29
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Hows that monitor working out Julian? u send it in for the update? are all the inputs and outputs functioning as should? ive read with a DVI connection some peeps lose the DVI signal if the monitor is switched off while CPU is on? any input, im juggling between this and a Dell 2407
Me too though to confuse thing even more everything i've read the samsung 244T is even better than both if a tiny bit more expensive. Oh the choices.
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mhh no problems... i havent sent it in for teh update yet just doing that now. if u buy one now u should get one with the 1:1

great monitor. especially for gaming
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