What is your favorite Web Browser?

WyreTheWolf · Mar 22, 2003, 02:16 AM

This is something that a lot of people dont actually know about. I have asked this of customers... I 9 out of 10 times just get a blank stare.

I am surprised that so many people dont know that there is more out there than Internet Explorer.

So, please vote for your favorite, and then list the reasons why you use that browser.

Have fun

WyreTheWolf · Mar 22, 2003, 02:21 AM

My personal favorite is Phoenix Browser,

you can get a copy here.

I like it because it is fast, supports tab browsing, and it is free.

Vampyromaniac · Mar 22, 2003, 02:23 AM

Phoenix still not quite good enough for me, I'm with Mozilla

WyreTheWolf · Mar 22, 2003, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by Vampyromaniac
Phoenix still not quite good enough for me, I'm with Mozilla

What build?

As far as Phoenix, there is a new build available in the nightly builds... MOST excellent.

Vampyromaniac · Mar 22, 2003, 02:49 AM

I have Mozilla 1.1, haven't gotten around to intalling 1.3 yet
Actually, even though Mozilla is my fave, I'm using Phoenix pretty much full-time, the regular 0.5.

I know there's new builds everyday, but even the newest is still too quirky, I just stick with 0.5 instead of installing everyday.

Necrosis · Mar 22, 2003, 03:02 AM

Mozilla 1.3...just wish it has the google search menu like Phoenix.

Dom · Mar 22, 2003, 03:09 AM

IE6 SP1.

Starscream · Mar 22, 2003, 04:22 AM

Opera 7.03

~~Crash Override~~ · Mar 22, 2003, 08:10 AM

I had to put other simply due to the fact that for different sites I use different browsers.

For me ie6 seems to have issues with sites like pricewatch that use a database.

for driverheaven ie6 also has issues with the initial site access that other browsers dont seem to have

so for me its mostly opera and ie6 unless im in an artsy mood then its onto mozilla and netscape

Zardon · Mar 22, 2003, 10:05 AM

since the upgrades I havent had any problems on DH with IE

~~Crash Override~~ · Mar 22, 2003, 11:19 AM

actually i just discovered something rather odd.

for some reason if i use the ip for DH then its not a problem whatsoever in ie6 (was doin some trace routes to see if it could have been something between here and the server) but if I use www.hardwareheaven.com or driverheaven.net or any variation thereof rather than the actual ip it does....not sure why the hell it would make a difference but then again that is microsoft for ya eh?

Erroneus · Mar 22, 2003, 11:27 AM

opera 7.03 great browser, way faster then IE and more stable and easy to use then phoenix IMO

Impulse · Mar 22, 2003, 12:04 PM

I choose Opera. I always use the latest version of it, w/o JAVA...

Zardon · Mar 22, 2003, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crash Override
actually i just discovered something rather odd.

for some reason if i use the ip for DH then its not a problem whatsoever in ie6 (was doin some trace routes to see if it could have been something between here and the server) but if I use www.hardwareheaven.com or driverheaven.net or any variation thereof rather than the actual ip it does....not sure why the hell it would make a difference but then again that is microsoft for ya eh?

try flushing your dns in cmd.

Impulse · Mar 22, 2003, 01:58 PM

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opera 7.03 great browser, way faster then IE and more stable

Not to mention IE's security flaws, and alot of patches and fixes to keep track on. I mean both IE and Opera has their shares of security exploits, but I've seen less issues with Opera, than IE; in terms of security...

Aspect · Mar 22, 2003, 03:19 PM

Phoenix is definately my fave browser

~~Crash Override~~ · Mar 22, 2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zardon
try flushing your dns in cmd.

that seems to have worked

UberLord · Mar 23, 2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by Impulse
Not to mention IE's security flaws, and alot of patches and fixes to keep track on. I mean both IE and Opera has their shares of security exploits, but I've seen less issues with Opera, than IE; in terms of security...

Apples and Oranges comparison really.

IE has the most security holes because around 95% of the internet community uses it so more crackers target it for weaknesses

Mozilla has the best security because
1) It's not as popular so you don't get as many crackers trying to exploit it
2) It's open source and there's more people auditing the code since it hit version 1 than there are people writing new code for it.
3) It has loads of privacy settings like not allowing popups or malicious portions of javascript.

Opera is a strange best. For such a small userbase (in comparison to IE) and for a closed source product it's security (in terms of needing a patch) has been pretty good. I'd actually say that the programmers for Opera are pretty damn good seeing as only 2 major holes have been found in opera since the launch of version 7.

Also there's the security patch turnaround time.
Mozilla normally gets security patches out the same day as the exploit is found.
Opera noramlly gets it's patches out the next working day or two.
IE still has 14 exploitable holes of with 6 are over 6 months old.

Now you know why I insist my parents use either Mozilla or Opera. My dad prefers mozilla and my mum prefers Opera. I prefer Mozilla myself. I've even submitted a few bug reports and *gasp* a patch! Didn't get accepted though as someone else wrote a better one. Ah well

BWX · Mar 23, 2003, 12:06 AM

IE 6 SP1, because I have never tried anything else. I'm just used to it I guess- It's plenty fast (instant) for me. So I see no need to change.

NaumoJR · Mar 23, 2003, 01:04 AM

I'm torn between Opera 7.02 and IE 6 sp1.

I use IE a lot, but I tend to use Opera evey now and then. So IE wins by a hair.

~~Asuka~~ · Mar 24, 2003, 09:53 PM

I use IE6 all the time (now with SP1) - it works the best with all the sites I regularly visit. If you disable JavaScript (which you should *always* do, not only on IE) and also disable the sh!tty Java VM, you'll have nothing to worry about any leaks. Only enable it for pages which are definitely 100% thrustworthy!
The only decent alternative (until now) is Opera, but it still has some problems displaying some pages properly.
Other than that... Netscape has more bugs than a dog got fleas, and pitiful stability as well - I wouldn't touch it with a 10 inch pole. Mozilla, who is based on it, isn't that much better yet... only Phoenix (which is also Mozilla-based) could be a nice alternative someday, perhaps.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 24, 2003, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WyreTheWolf

So, please vote for your favorite, and then list the reasons why you use that browser.

Have fun

IE 6 Well becouse it does what I need it to....

(used to run IE 5 and as a backup netscape becouse some sites woulnt work right)

toddsmack2k · Mar 25, 2003, 01:54 PM

I use IE 6, It has given me really no problems at all and does just fine for me.

dai · Mar 25, 2003, 05:21 PM

opera 7.03

HsuGotaQ · Mar 25, 2003, 06:07 PM

Opera 7.03. Usefull, fast, efficient and beautifull too. The runner up would be Phoenix and IE 6.0SP1. Mozilla is dead last in my mind cuz it's too slow and has really too much build into it (bloatware).

Mar 22, 2003, 02:16 AM	#1
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	What is your favorite Web Browser? This is something that a lot of people dont actually know about. I have asked this of customers... I 9 out of 10 times just get a blank stare. I am surprised that so many people dont know that there is more out there than Internet Explorer. So, please vote for your favorite, and then list the reasons why you use that browser. Have fun

Mar 22, 2003, 02:23 AM	#3
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Phoenix still not quite good enough for me, I'm with Mozilla __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Mar 22, 2003, 02:49 AM	#5
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I have Mozilla 1.1, haven't gotten around to intalling 1.3 yet Actually, even though Mozilla is my fave, I'm using Phoenix pretty much full-time, the regular 0.5. I know there's new builds everyday, but even the newest is still too quirky, I just stick with 0.5 instead of installing everyday. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Mar 22, 2003, 04:22 AM	#8
Starscream King of the Decepticons! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cybertron Posts: 117 Rep Power: 0	Opera 7.03 __________________ Over and outie...

Mar 22, 2003, 11:27 AM	#12
Erroneus Get off my lawn! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 13,417 Rep Power: 119 System Specs	opera opera 7.03 great browser, way faster then IE and more stable and easy to use then phoenix IMO __________________

Mar 22, 2003, 02:21 AM	Thread Starter #2
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	My personal favorite is Phoenix Browser, you can get a copy here. I like it because it is fast, supports tab browsing, and it is free.

Mar 22, 2003, 03:02 AM	#6
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Mozilla 1.3...just wish it has the google search menu like Phoenix.

Mar 22, 2003, 03:09 AM	#7
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	IE6 SP1.

Mar 22, 2003, 08:10 AM	#9
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	I had to put other simply due to the fact that for different sites I use different browsers. For me ie6 seems to have issues with sites like pricewatch that use a database. for driverheaven ie6 also has issues with the initial site access that other browsers dont seem to have so for me its mostly opera and ie6 unless im in an artsy mood then its onto mozilla and netscape

Mar 22, 2003, 10:05 AM	#10
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	since the upgrades I havent had any problems on DH with IE

Mar 22, 2003, 11:19 AM	#11
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	actually i just discovered something rather odd. for some reason if i use the ip for DH then its not a problem whatsoever in ie6 (was doin some trace routes to see if it could have been something between here and the server) but if I use www.hardwareheaven.com or driverheaven.net or any variation thereof rather than the actual ip it does....not sure why the hell it would make a difference but then again that is microsoft for ya eh?

Mar 22, 2003, 12:04 PM	#13
Impulse l33t Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 0	I choose Opera. I always use the latest version of it, w/o JAVA...

Mar 22, 2003, 03:19 PM	#16
Aspect "Amusing Comment Here" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 232 Rep Power: 0	Phoenix is definately my fave browser __________________

Mar 23, 2003, 12:06 AM	#19
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	IE 6 SP1, because I have never tried anything else. I'm just used to it I guess- It's plenty fast (instant) for me. So I see no need to change. __________________

Mar 23, 2003, 01:04 AM	#20
NaumoJR Paranoid Android Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Planet Telex Posts: 1,029 Rep Power: 0	I'm torn between Opera 7.02 and IE 6 sp1. I use IE a lot, but I tend to use Opera evey now and then. So IE wins by a hair.

Mar 24, 2003, 09:53 PM	#21
~~Asuka~~ BANNED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	I use IE6 all the time (now with SP1) - it works the best with all the sites I regularly visit. If you disable JavaScript (which you should always do, not only on IE) and also disable the sh!tty Java VM, you'll have nothing to worry about any leaks. Only enable it for pages which are definitely 100% thrustworthy! The only decent alternative (until now) is Opera, but it still has some problems displaying some pages properly. Other than that... Netscape has more bugs than a dog got fleas, and pitiful stability as well - I wouldn't touch it with a 10 inch pole. Mozilla, who is based on it, isn't that much better yet... only Phoenix (which is also Mozilla-based) could be a nice alternative someday, perhaps.

Mar 25, 2003, 01:54 PM	#23
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	I use IE 6, It has given me really no problems at all and does just fine for me. __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Mar 25, 2003, 05:21 PM	#24
dai DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 126 Rep Power: 0	opera 7.03

Mar 25, 2003, 06:07 PM	#25
HsuGotaQ Hydrogenated Dumbass Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canuckland Posts: 755 Rep Power: 0	Opera 7.03. Usefull, fast, efficient and beautifull too. The runner up would be Phoenix and IE 6.0SP1. Mozilla is dead last in my mind cuz it's too slow and has really too much build into it (bloatware).