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Old Apr 3, 2007, 05:04 AM   #1
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Ya know, I swear my computer finally hates me...(keeps shutting off)

Hello! Got another problem that I need reasurrance on.

Just built the computer in my....name? sig? Anyway the point is, the computer decides to just shut down. I don't know why. All power management settings are turned off. I have the AMD Optimizer installed in XP SP2. Windows reports no errors whatsoever.

Here are my voltages:

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type ITE IT8716F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type National LM63 (ATI-I2C 4Ch)
Chassis Intrusion Detected No


CPU 37 °C (99 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 28 °C (82 °F)
Aux 25 °C (77 °F)
GPU 48 °C (118 °F)
GPU Ambient 43 °C (109 °F)
Maxtor 6L200M0 44 °C (111 °F)
WDC WD1600YS-01SHB0 30 °C (86 °F)
WDC WD800JD-00HKA0 46 °C (115 °F)


CPU 2015 RPM


CPU Core 1.18 V
+2.5 V 2.00 V
+3.3 V 3.34 V
+5 V 4.78 V
+12 V 12.16 V
+5 V Standby 4.84 V
VBAT Battery 3.09 V

Is the motherboard dying (oh god...hope Newegg takes it back after having it for a month...had to build my computer a week at a time) or is it the PSU....or do I need a more powerful PSU (Corsair HS520W PSU)...
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Old Apr 3, 2007, 05:50 AM   #2
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toss out some more info about wats goin on, but specifically when it happens, everytime you do a certain something, or completly Random. Does it turn itself completly off or reboot? Maybe try it out with only one stick of RAM and see what happens?
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Old Apr 3, 2007, 06:20 AM   #3
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Hello! Got another problem that I need reasurrance on.

Just built the computer in my....name? sig? Anyway the point is, the computer decides to just shut down. I don't know why. All power management settings are turned off. I have the AMD Optimizer installed in XP SP2. Windows reports no errors whatsoever.

Here are my voltages:

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type ITE IT8716F (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type National LM63 (ATI-I2C 4Ch)
Chassis Intrusion Detected No


CPU 37 °C (99 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 28 °C (82 °F)
Aux 25 °C (77 °F)
GPU 48 °C (118 °F)
GPU Ambient 43 °C (109 °F)
Maxtor 6L200M0 44 °C (111 °F)
WDC WD1600YS-01SHB0 30 °C (86 °F)
WDC WD800JD-00HKA0 46 °C (115 °F)


CPU 2015 RPM


CPU Core 1.18 V
+2.5 V 2.00 V
+3.3 V 3.34 V
+5 V 4.78 V
+12 V 12.16 V
+5 V Standby 4.84 V
VBAT Battery 3.09 V

Is the motherboard dying (oh god...hope Newegg takes it back after having it for a month...had to build my computer a week at a time) or is it the PSU....or do I need a more powerful PSU (Corsair HS520W PSU)...
How long ago did you build this if its recent, it sounds like your ram isnt volted right. It would reset your computer, as well as reset if your cpu voltage isnt right. More info on what specifically happens would help. Also download some sort of stress test program and run it if it resets, if it does it gives alot more information to people to help you
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It is very hard to determine when it happens as it is random. The system doesn't reboot, it just plain turns off. Ram would make sense: Someone at Corsair's forums told me to set it to 2v (its really supposed to be 2.1v but I think the gigabyte board wont really let me do +.3 volts...I'll have to check). I guess I could run 3DMark's stress test (or do you recommend another stress test). This system is basically brand new. Only had it up for about a week tops.

I posted this in another form and someone said that my +5v rail is a little...low.....

EDIT:
Just ran a cpu and memory stress test in Everst. Went for a walk and to take out the trash. Came back, computer off. Sigh...Also noticed Everest says Real Clock 368mhz ....... not 400mhz...

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Old Apr 3, 2007, 05:31 PM   #5
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It is very hard to determine when it happens as it is random. The system doesn't reboot, it just plain turns off. Ram would make sense: Someone at Corsair's forums told me to set it to 2v (its really supposed to be 2.1v but I think the gigabyte board wont really let me do +.3 volts...I'll have to check). I guess I could run 3DMark's stress test (or do you recommend another stress test). This system is basically brand new. Only had it up for about a week tops.

I posted this in another form and someone said that my +5v rail is a little...low.....

EDIT:
Just ran a cpu and memory stress test in Everst. Went for a walk and to take out the trash. Came back, computer off. Sigh...Also noticed Everest says Real Clock 368mhz ....... not 400mhz...
That makes more sense, your ram or your cpu isnt getting enough voltage if stress makes it unstable that it turns off, get to your system properties through control panel or right clicking my computer.

then goto Advanced and pick Startup and Recovery, under that goto system failure and you will see 3 check boxes and 2 drop down menus. Uncheck Automatically Restart so you can at least get a bsod.

But try checking the voltages on your Cpu and ram, even any other voltage setting you can possibly set.
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Old Apr 3, 2007, 05:54 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #6
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I ALWAYS set it to show me a BSOD

All voltages are set to normal. Should I try to set memory to 2.1v (+.3 from 1.8...even though the +.3 is in the red.....and goin to like +.4 shows an even darker red)? I flashed the BIOS as well to F8 (now latest version) as well.
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Old Apr 3, 2007, 08:00 PM   #7
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I ALWAYS set it to show me a BSOD

All voltages are set to normal. Should I try to set memory to 2.1v (+.3 from 1.8...even though the +.3 is in the red.....and goin to like +.4 shows an even darker red)? I flashed the BIOS as well to F8 (now latest version) as well.
Actually thats your problem that 6400C4 is meant to be set at 2.1v not 1.8 your undervolting it, which would explain your instability.

At 4-4-4-12 timings you need 2.1v to be inline with assigned specs of the ram. Up that voltage to 2.1 or 2.12 or whatever interval that board allows you to do and your problem should be fixed.

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...048-6400C4.pdf
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Old Apr 4, 2007, 12:51 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #8
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Thanks, I went ahead and pushed it to 2.1v and set the timings to 4-4-4-12. I did a stress test again and it didn't shut down. Did one again a few hours later and didn't shut down. Now I will randomly do it just to make sure. Now if only it would say DDR2-800....says DDR-767...
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Old Apr 4, 2007, 01:28 AM   #9
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Thanks, I went ahead and pushed it to 2.1v and set the timings to 4-4-4-12. I did a stress test again and it didn't shut down. Did one again a few hours later and didn't shut down. Now I will randomly do it just to make sure. Now if only it would say DDR2-800....says DDR-767...
If you wanna make sure, run Prime95 or something maybe Orthos for 9-12hrs should give you a good idea. Probably Orthos since your running dual core.....


http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm

there is the link, download that and run it at Priority 9 for about 12hrs is a good benchmark of stability, I usually do 24hrs on my system but each person has their own definition of stability.
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Old Apr 5, 2007, 03:24 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #10
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Sweet. Got it downloaded. Will run it tonight (hehe get to annoy my brother with my freakishly bright blue led on the case...thats what he gets for snoring!) Right now I'm trying to see why in the hell it still says Memory Frequency 368mhz...and not 400...
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Sweet. Got it downloaded. Will run it tonight (hehe get to annoy my brother with my freakishly bright blue led on the case...thats what he gets for snoring!) Right now I'm trying to see why in the hell it still says Memory Frequency 368mhz...and not 400...
You would have to ask someone that knows AMD chips and overclocking....Im an Intel guy myself haha
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Ran it for almost 11 hours, no problems. Never shut off when I was asleep

And ...................... curse you Intel guys I was going to do an Intel system since I've done AMD systems for ages but still got lost in what chipset/memory/motherboard to get. And the prices (at the time).

Thanks Chaos! I believe most of my problems are solved (Save the frikkin memory bus).
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Ran it for almost 11 hours, no problems. Never shut off when I was asleep

And ...................... curse you Intel guys I was going to do an Intel system since I've done AMD systems for ages but still got lost in what chipset/memory/motherboard to get. And the prices (at the time).

Thanks Chaos! I believe most of my problems are solved (Save the frikkin memory bus).
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