My New System " unless you object " Help!

>GSXR<mrbusa · Apr 30, 2007, 12:30 AM

I am going to order these parts on Monday.
I am open to suggestions as long as the total stays at or below 1,200.00 and is SLI capable. I would really like a 680i board but there just aren't any I like. I have been researching for a week solid and my brain is fried and everything looks the same now. I sure wish that Newegg filtered out the fake ass reviewers and people giving a bad review because of user error.
My previous opinion on upgrading this soon still stand. The cash for this venture is new found and is expendable, so what the hell.
As soon as I get these, or maybe something suggested combined with my good choices, parts snapped together and tested them my rig per my sig will be parted. Only my components that I am replacing will be sold.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130071

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145043

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003

http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16817139002

http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16813131142

Total: 1,206.97 + shipping - 90.00 worth of MIR's - 10.00 combo

Necrosis · Apr 30, 2007, 01:10 AM

Nice but isn't the 640MB GTS getting harder to find since they stopped making them???

**kris23** · Apr 30, 2007, 03:18 AM

wow lol the GTS 320 is a better choice unless you game at 1920x1200 or something then a 640 or GTX would be better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341002
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227191
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118020

there ya go, better memory, (i hear it uses Micron D9 instead of the garbage corsair snuck into their lower Dominators) cheaper CPU, 680i board and a bigger PSU

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 1, 2007, 03:38 AM

Wow lol?

The system is ordered. I even took your word for it other than I went with the 6600 and not the 6320 and I didn't need a cooler. It's almost like you are building a new rig also. I am going to name it " Wow LOL kris23 ".

All my current parts that I am replacing are going on CL wed. If anybody wants anything then post here or PM me your offers.

**kris23** · May 1, 2007, 05:43 AM

hahahaha k

so what parts did you order again? the ones i showed except for the e6320 and cooler?

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 7, 2007, 10:12 PM

My final decision on hardware is as follows. All parts just came by UPS this morning. I talked myself out of the 680i board because there are just to many people having issues and it costs way to much. I talked myself out of the reaper ram because some epp profiles on the same chips and some fancy spreaders are not worth a hundred bones.

-Asus p5n32-e sli plus
-e6600 L649 B2 - I was hoping to get a chip from the Philippines but you all know how that goes.
-G-Skill F2-6400PHU2 2gigs Micron D9GMH chips and many people are reaching 1150+
-OCZ Gamexstream 700w
-EVGA 8800GTS 320 AR - I thought I got away with one when I first opened the shipping box. The outside of the EVGA box is labeled in big bold letters 640mb. It wasn't until I looked at the UPC that I saw it was indeed only a 320mb board. Companies get away with so much shit it isn't funny anymore. It is hard to believe they save a bunch of money by only having one box for both cards. They could at least put a 320mb sticker over the 640mb lettering on the box.

980+15 for shipping

I will set it up later after I do some final backup on my current rig a creation of driver disks and reading of the mobo manual for the new rig.

Dyre Straits · May 8, 2007, 12:02 AM

Do let us know how it goes. Eager to hear from you.

**kris23** · May 8, 2007, 12:15 AM

most of the issues with the 680i chipset have been solved on EVGA's A1 and T1 boards(no other boards that i know of have resolved the issues) , quadcores OC fine, soundcards work, and pretty much everything else is just defects.

i dont really know about the 650i Plus board as it is a hybrid chip but seems to be the same as the 680i minus some OCing capibilities, and it does have solid state capacitors. but for me, id steer clear of asus because im afraid of running into those stupid little issues that happen with some board models

well the memory is good but i was kinda wondering about the quality of the memory chips as they are usually better binned on G.Skills higher models.

but anyways your buy seems pretty good, hope it gives you the performace you're looking for...... and if that board works great with your equipment, let me know as i could cut corners on my own plans

Lelisevis · May 8, 2007, 01:11 AM

Try the Gamestream 700W out of the case before wasting your time installing it. For me personally it's the noisiest PSU I've ever came across. Puts out some nice solid figures and runs my 8800GTS SLi system with no probs but it's by far the noisiest component in my case which would otherwise be whisper quiet.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 9, 2007, 05:13 AM

The system is alive and well.

The PSU is not even close to being loud.

I am not going to post much because I didn't realize how much I am out of touch with the newer hardware. I feel like such a nub in my bios or in rivatuner. I am going to read up on some things before I try overclocking or benching.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 11:26 AM

After a few days of burnin and checking stability and finding out some of the advanced values I decided it was time to OC the ram. My main goal for this modest OC was to keep stock timings and keep it as close to stock voltage as possible. The only hardware I am overclocking right now is the RAM. This makes it easier to determine max linked OC after I find all max OC's for each individual piece of hardware.
stock timings 4-4-4-12 2t
stock voltage 2.1 - 2.2
stock speed 800Mhz
cost 153.00 2gig

These were all tested with three runs of memtest86+ 1.70 and one run of 3dmark06. Because of the amount of small increments in the voltage settings there are most likely many more things I can do to achieve a better result. Memtest takes so long to complete 2gigs of RAM that I didn't want to test every possible variation. When I start in on the rest of the hardware I will get more precise with all the settings. I only know about half of the stock values as of right now.

lowest volts and tightest timings and highest clocks@
3-3-4-10 1t
2.0v
840 MHz

OC1@-
4-4-4-10 1t
2.1v
930 MHz

OC2@
4-4-4-10 2t
2.125v
960 MHz

OC3@- This is what I am running at right now. I have a few hours of gaming, two runs of 3dmark06, three runs of memtest. Stable as can be.
4-4-4-12 2t
2.250v
1000 MHz

ChaosMinionX · May 12, 2007, 09:11 PM

Those are some good voltages for DDR2 1000, do you have any active cooling on them? If not, get some might make your ram happier

Lowfat · May 12, 2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

Nice but isn't the 640MB GTS getting harder to find since they stopped making them???

they stopped making them?!?!?! Since when???

Lelisevis · May 12, 2007, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

they stopped making them?!?!?! Since when???

Well rumours were floating round about 2 months ago and most online retailers don't stock the plain GTS 640mb anymore.. You'll find one or two factory overclocked variants floating around though. Just as an example recently I couldnt find a stock BFG 8800GTS 640mb anywhere and in the end had to flash my launch GTS with a BFG GTS OC version bios just so I could pair it up in SLi

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I'm actually considering flashing both of mine with the BFG GTS OC2 bios as they can comfortably handle the clocks. Only thing stopping me is i've found my current rig is actually being held back by my processor which is no slouch.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Those are some good voltages for DDR2 1000, do you have any active cooling on them? If not, get some might make your ram happier

I was keeping track of temps by touch and at this speed the modules are barely hotter than me. I have to think about it to be able to tell if they are even warm. I would say they are running idle at about 100f and loaded about 115f to 120f.
The design of these Cm atcs201 cases are some of the best ever. I think it is the quality and thickness of the aluminum they use. Along with that and the countless hours of trial and error on my fan placement and keeping my system ultra clean helps allot on my temps. Up until I got this 8800gts I have never seen temps on any component even close to 60c and most hardware stayed in the 40's at full load. This gts really warms up my system. I think when I get some time I am going to mount this slim zalman fan on the bottom of my case right under the intake of the card. That should help ambient temps in my case.

Lowfat · May 12, 2007, 10:21 PM

Those are sure good timings for 1000MHz and that low voltage. You have a very good set of memory there.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lelisevis

Well rumours were floating round about 2 months ago and most online retailers don't stock the plain GTS 640mb anymore.. You'll find one or two factory overclocked variants floating around though. Just as an example recently I couldnt find a stock BFG 8800GTS 640mb anywhere and in the end had to flash my launch GTS with a BFG GTS OC version bios just so I could pair it up in SLi

.
I'm actually considering flashing both of mine with the BFG GTS OC2 bios as they can comfortably handle the clocks. Only thing stopping me is i've found my current rig is actually being held back by my processor which is no slouch.

I was thinking of flashing my card with a personally modded bios so I can boot at a lower 2d clocks and lock the shader clocks and overclock the card. Did you use separate clock profiles and change the shader clocks when you flashed your card? If you did then have you had any issues switching between 2d and 3d modes?

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

Those are sure good timings for 1000MHz and that low voltage. You have a very good set of memory there.

Thx,
kris23 talked me into the micron d9 chips. I didn't get the third party brand he suggested because these are the same chips minus the fancy cooler for a 100.00 less. I was on a tight budget this build. This ram is great and now they are 125.00 on Newegg. I am going to run 2x1024 when I need 4gigs in a year or so, otherwise I would pick up another set.

Lowfat · May 12, 2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

I was thinking of flashing my card with a personally modded bios so I can boot at a lower 2d clocks and lock the shader clocks and overclock the card. Did you use separate clock profiles and change the shader clocks when you flashed your card? If you did then have you had any issues switching between 2d and 3d modes?

Is this a BIOS you were going to mod yourself? If you ever do, let me know. I'd sure like one for my 8800GTS 320 also.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

Is this a BIOS you were going to mod yourself? If you ever do, let me know. I'd sure like one for my 8800GTS 320 also.

I just looked at your sig. How are you running at 4-4-4-4? I have never seen any ddr2 at 500MHz be able to run at 4 tRAS.

Anything that I would do to my cards BIOS would have already been done to yours because you have the supercocked version. I doubt I will separate the 2d/3d clock speeds because people are saying the card has problems switching between them and will crash sometimes. I guess that is why they did not ship with different 2d and 3d clocks.

Lelisevis · May 12, 2007, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

I was thinking of flashing my card with a personally modded bios so I can boot at a lower 2d clocks and lock the shader clocks and overclock the card. Did you use separate clock profiles and change the shader clocks when you flashed your card? If you did then have you had any issues switching between 2d and 3d modes?

All I did was ran the clocks at 590 core and 1800mhz Ram for 4 months using software. I then used the http://www.mvktech.net/ site and found the BFG OC bios and flashed it with NVflash.
My only reason for wanting to use the OC2 bios is the OC bios doesnt touch the ram clocks. Bizzarely the OC bios does raise the shader clock by 100mhz, just not the RAM.
I've had no issues at all with switching from 2d to 3d, do you have a link to the problem? I must have missed that one and i'm curious as to what people are encountering.
I've also found it hard to find people running 2xGTS in SLi, i'd love to have a score to compare mine too, just to make sure everythings running fine. I know my system seems heavily CPU bound but with 3dmark 06 im getting 11500-12000. I may download 3dmark 05 tonight which I believe bases the score more on the GPU?

ChaosMinionX · May 12, 2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

I just looked at your sig. How are you running at 4-4-4-4? I have never seen any ddr2 at 500MHz be able to run at 4 tRAS.

Anything that I would do to my cards BIOS would have already been done to yours because you have the supercocked version. I doubt I will separate the 2d/3d clock speeds because people are saying the card has problems switching between them and will crash sometimes. I guess that is why they did not ship with different 2d and 3d clocks.

My ram will do 400mhz 3-3-3-3...and Cas3 DDR2 1000 2.45v

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

My ram will do 400mhz 3-3-3-3...and Cas3 DDR2 1000 2.45v

Stable?
That is some badass ram!

I don't think this G-Skill will do that but I didn't expect it to for the cost. That sure is allot of power. This is my first set of DDR2 modules. Once everything is burned in then I will start cranking up the volts and pushing it.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 12, 2007, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lelisevis

All I did was ran the clocks at 590 core and 1800mhz Ram for 4 months using software. I then used the http://www.mvktech.net/ site and found the BFG OC bios and flashed it with NVflash.
My only reason for wanting to use the OC2 bios is the OC bios doesnt touch the ram clocks. Bizzarely the OC bios does raise the shader clock by 100mhz, just not the RAM.
I've had no issues at all with switching from 2d to 3d, do you have a link to the problem? I must have missed that one and i'm curious as to what people are encountering.
I've also found it hard to find people running 2xGTS in SLi, i'd love to have a score to compare mine too, just to make sure everythings running fine. I know my system seems heavily CPU bound but with 3dmark 06 im getting 11500-12000. I may download 3dmark 05 tonight which I believe bases the score more on the GPU?

Here is a link of one of the people stating it is best to not have separate 2d/3d clocks. There are others that I seen but they are buried in threads.
http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...4014/catid,13/

Lelisevis · May 12, 2007, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

Here is a link of one of the people stating it is best to not have separate 2d/3d clocks. There are others that I seen but they are buried in threads.
http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...4014/catid,13/

LOL I can be an idiot at times. I'd never looked into 2d/3d clocks. I made the stupid error of assuming the clocks read in the 3dmark 06 details were the card mode switching. I never considered the thought that 06 was just randomly putting numbers in. I wondered why all the clocks seemed low in the database. That answers my pondering on why idle temps seemed excessive for my assumed 2d clocks.

Lowfat · May 13, 2007, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

My ram will do 400mhz 3-3-3-3...and Cas3 DDR2 1000 2.45v

400MHZ 3-3-3-3 is easy

I believe mine will even do 3-3-2-3. Although CAS3 @ 500MHz is too tough for mine.

and >GSXR<mrbusa, i bet if you tried you could get your timings to 4-4-4-4 no problem, likely without any voltage incrase.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 13, 2007, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

400MHZ 3-3-3-3 is easy

I believe mine will even do 3-3-2-3. Although CAS3 @ 500MHz is too tough for mine.

and >GSXR<mrbusa, i bet if you tried you could get your timings to 4-4-4-4 no problem, likely without any voltage incrase.

I am done for today. Tomorrow I will mess with it more and see how low I can get the latency. I do not think the bin of my d9's are at the top of the food chain. I am going to take my time and not destroy anything in the process.

I did however decide to flash my 8800 with a bios I modded to run lower 2d and slightly overclocked 3d clocks. I haven't pushed this card at all and this was just a test to see if it flashed OK. So far so good.

2d- 450/1100/684
3d- 540/1242/837

ChaosMinionX · May 13, 2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

400MHZ 3-3-3-3 is easy

I believe mine will even do 3-3-2-3. Although CAS3 @ 500MHz is too tough for mine.

and >GSXR<mrbusa, i bet if you tried you could get your timings to 4-4-4-4 no problem, likely without any voltage incrase.

And actually my ram runs faster in gaming at 400mhz 3-3-3-6 than it does 500mhz 4-4-4-10... I think the SPD and everything is tuned for lower latencies.

>GSXR<mrbusa · May 13, 2007, 01:49 AM

I kinda understand now why they shipped these 8800gts cards with only one performance profile. Some how the fans duty cycle is intertwined with clocks. I couldn't modify anything in the BIOS that would give me a fan speed for 2d and a fan speed for 3d. I thought I would be able to overclock the card in the BIOS and use rivatuner to adjust fan speed at boot. It works, but , if I boot with a lower fan speed than 100% and have the card boot lower than 3d clocks then when the card kicks into 3d mode the fan speed will not increase. If I boot the card at 100% fan speed then the card will not boot at my lower 2d clocks, it boots at my overclocked 3d profile.
Rivatuner has the ability to modify the fans duty cycle table and it appears that is what I need to do. I go an look around the rivatuner forums and the maker of rivatuner even says not to mess with this feature on these cards.
If anybody has or does figure out how do do what I described then please post it here. thx

EDIT: The reason I do not want to just leave the fan speed on auto is that even at the lower 2d clocks with the fan on default 60% this card runs warmer than I like it to.

ChaosMinionX · May 13, 2007, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by >GSXR<mrbusa

EDIT: The reason I do not want to just leave the fan speed on auto is that even at the lower 2d clocks with the fan on default 60% this card runs warmer than I like it to.

Just leave it at full blast all the time

Thats how I run my cooler, then again its an accelero atm...

Apr 30, 2007, 12:30 AM	#1
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	My New System " unless you object " Help! I am going to order these parts on Monday. I am open to suggestions as long as the total stays at or below 1,200.00 and is SLI capable. I would really like a 680i board but there just aren't any I like. I have been researching for a week solid and my brain is fried and everything looks the same now. I sure wish that Newegg filtered out the fake ass reviewers and people giving a bad review because of user error. My previous opinion on upgrading this soon still stand. The cash for this venture is new found and is expendable, so what the hell. As soon as I get these, or maybe something suggested combined with my good choices, parts snapped together and tested them my rig per my sig will be parted. Only my components that I am replacing will be sold. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130071 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145043 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003 http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16817139002 http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16813131142 Total: 1,206.97 + shipping - 90.00 worth of MIR's - 10.00 combo Last edited by >GSXR<mrbusa; Apr 30, 2007 at 12:40 AM.

Apr 30, 2007, 03:18 AM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	wow lol the GTS 320 is a better choice unless you game at 1920x1200 or something then a 640 or GTX would be better http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130082 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341002 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227191 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188013 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115015 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118020 there ya go, better memory, (i hear it uses Micron D9 instead of the garbage corsair snuck into their lower Dominators) cheaper CPU, 680i board and a bigger PSU __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 1, 2007, 05:43 AM	#5
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	hahahaha k so what parts did you order again? the ones i showed except for the e6320 and cooler? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 8, 2007, 12:15 AM	#8
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	most of the issues with the 680i chipset have been solved on EVGA's A1 and T1 boards(no other boards that i know of have resolved the issues) , quadcores OC fine, soundcards work, and pretty much everything else is just defects. i dont really know about the 650i Plus board as it is a hybrid chip but seems to be the same as the 680i minus some OCing capibilities, and it does have solid state capacitors. but for me, id steer clear of asus because im afraid of running into those stupid little issues that happen with some board models well the memory is good but i was kinda wondering about the quality of the memory chips as they are usually better binned on G.Skills higher models. but anyways your buy seems pretty good, hope it gives you the performace you're looking for...... and if that board works great with your equipment, let me know as i could cut corners on my own plans __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

May 12, 2007, 09:11 PM	#12
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	Those are some good voltages for DDR2 1000, do you have any active cooling on them? If not, get some might make your ram happier __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Apr 30, 2007, 01:10 AM	#2
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Nice but isn't the 640MB GTS getting harder to find since they stopped making them???

May 1, 2007, 03:38 AM	Thread Starter #4
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Wow lol? The system is ordered. I even took your word for it other than I went with the 6600 and not the 6320 and I didn't need a cooler. It's almost like you are building a new rig also. I am going to name it " Wow LOL kris23 ". All my current parts that I am replacing are going on CL wed. If anybody wants anything then post here or PM me your offers.

May 7, 2007, 10:12 PM	Thread Starter #6
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	My final decision on hardware is as follows. All parts just came by UPS this morning. I talked myself out of the 680i board because there are just to many people having issues and it costs way to much. I talked myself out of the reaper ram because some epp profiles on the same chips and some fancy spreaders are not worth a hundred bones. -Asus p5n32-e sli plus -e6600 L649 B2 - I was hoping to get a chip from the Philippines but you all know how that goes. -G-Skill F2-6400PHU2 2gigs Micron D9GMH chips and many people are reaching 1150+ -OCZ Gamexstream 700w -EVGA 8800GTS 320 AR - I thought I got away with one when I first opened the shipping box. The outside of the EVGA box is labeled in big bold letters 640mb. It wasn't until I looked at the UPC that I saw it was indeed only a 320mb board. Companies get away with so much shit it isn't funny anymore. It is hard to believe they save a bunch of money by only having one box for both cards. They could at least put a 320mb sticker over the 640mb lettering on the box. 980+15 for shipping I will set it up later after I do some final backup on my current rig a creation of driver disks and reading of the mobo manual for the new rig.

May 8, 2007, 01:11 AM	#9
Lelisevis Howlin at the moon Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,663 Rep Power: 0	Try the Gamestream 700W out of the case before wasting your time installing it. For me personally it's the noisiest PSU I've ever came across. Puts out some nice solid figures and runs my 8800GTS SLi system with no probs but it's by far the noisiest component in my case which would otherwise be whisper quiet.

May 9, 2007, 05:13 AM	Thread Starter #10
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	The system is alive and well. The PSU is not even close to being loud. I am not going to post much because I didn't realize how much I am out of touch with the newer hardware. I feel like such a nub in my bios or in rivatuner. I am going to read up on some things before I try overclocking or benching.

May 12, 2007, 11:26 AM	Thread Starter #11
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	After a few days of burnin and checking stability and finding out some of the advanced values I decided it was time to OC the ram. My main goal for this modest OC was to keep stock timings and keep it as close to stock voltage as possible. The only hardware I am overclocking right now is the RAM. This makes it easier to determine max linked OC after I find all max OC's for each individual piece of hardware. stock timings 4-4-4-12 2t stock voltage 2.1 - 2.2 stock speed 800Mhz cost 153.00 2gig These were all tested with three runs of memtest86+ 1.70 and one run of 3dmark06. Because of the amount of small increments in the voltage settings there are most likely many more things I can do to achieve a better result. Memtest takes so long to complete 2gigs of RAM that I didn't want to test every possible variation. When I start in on the rest of the hardware I will get more precise with all the settings. I only know about half of the stock values as of right now. lowest volts and tightest timings and highest clocks@ 3-3-4-10 1t 2.0v 840 MHz OC1@- 4-4-4-10 1t 2.1v 930 MHz OC2@ 4-4-4-10 2t 2.125v 960 MHz OC3@- This is what I am running at right now. I have a few hours of gaming, two runs of 3dmark06, three runs of memtest. Stable as can be. 4-4-4-12 2t 2.250v 1000 MHz

May 12, 2007, 10:21 PM	#16
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	Those are sure good timings for 1000MHz and that low voltage. You have a very good set of memory there. __________________

May 13, 2007, 01:49 AM	Thread Starter #29
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I kinda understand now why they shipped these 8800gts cards with only one performance profile. Some how the fans duty cycle is intertwined with clocks. I couldn't modify anything in the BIOS that would give me a fan speed for 2d and a fan speed for 3d. I thought I would be able to overclock the card in the BIOS and use rivatuner to adjust fan speed at boot. It works, but , if I boot with a lower fan speed than 100% and have the card boot lower than 3d clocks then when the card kicks into 3d mode the fan speed will not increase. If I boot the card at 100% fan speed then the card will not boot at my lower 2d clocks, it boots at my overclocked 3d profile. Rivatuner has the ability to modify the fans duty cycle table and it appears that is what I need to do. I go an look around the rivatuner forums and the maker of rivatuner even says not to mess with this feature on these cards. If anybody has or does figure out how do do what I described then please post it here. thx EDIT: The reason I do not want to just leave the fan speed on auto is that even at the lower 2d clocks with the fan on default 60% this card runs warmer than I like it to.