weird problem when ipod or zune is plugged in

Geminiwave · May 12, 2007, 07:08 PM

I dont know if you'll need my specs for this or not but I have a DFI Infinity SLI board with an Opteron 165 and 1gb of DDR ram. and some other stuff if you need it..

basically the issue is this: If at any time during the boot up process I have my zune or my ipod plugged in, the computer hangs.

Its WEIRD. My old computer occasionally did this too. So if the thing is plugged in when i turn it on, it'll show the ID for my processor but it wont make it to the ram test. It will just hang. Often times, unplugging the offending player will cause the boot sequence to continue. If however I wait until after the bios has booted but BEFORE windows has booted, it will hang to a black screen right after the loading bar finishes.

Does anyone know whats up with this? Its strange.

Yousaif · May 12, 2007, 08:55 PM

Just a stab in the dark here, but is your boot sequence set to boot from a USB device by any chance?

ChaosMinionX · May 12, 2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Yousaif

Just a stab in the dark here, but is your boot sequence set to boot from a USB device by any chance?

That or some Boards/BIOS's hang when there is an external USB device/storage plugged in. Ive had 2 boards do the same thing with external Audio cards, I fixed it by not using them anymore haha.

Geminiwave · May 13, 2007, 12:43 AM

thats a problem...I'm really not fond of that if thats the case.

I'll check the boot sequence, but i'm pretty sure that the USB thing isnt set there.

Zardon · May 15, 2007, 08:56 AM

did you ever sort this out? I know my mate had a similar problem and USB was set in the boot priority to the first device.

Dyre Straits · May 15, 2007, 09:19 AM

I was having a similar problem whenever I had a USB Flashdrive inserted. But, it wouldn't actually keep my system from booting. What I would get, though, is a message that my Boot Device had changed and I'd have to hit F1 to continue.

So, I'm thinking it's something to do with the Boot sequence getting affected. At least once I hit F1 I could continue into Windows without anymore problem. I just got used to making sure I didn't have that Flashcard inserted during the boot up.

Zardon · May 15, 2007, 09:30 AM

Dyre, did you try making the USB device the last in the boot chain via the bios? (or turning it off altogether if the mobo gives you the option).

I did it with the asus board im using on the quad core and it is fine, and I use a 2GB flash drive as a readyboost drive in vista so it needs to be in all the time.

Dyre Straits · May 15, 2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Dyre, did you try making the USB device the last in the boot chain via the bios? (or turning it off altogether if the mobo gives you the option).

I did it with the asus board im using on the quad core and it is fine, and I use a 2GB flash drive as a readyboost drive in vista so it needs to be in all the time.

I didn't make any changes in the BIOS at all. The Boot order was setup the same but having a Flashcard in the USB slot would somehow cause the above mentioned problem.

I could check further into this later tonight when I get home from work.

I just found the system would boot fine as long as I removed any Flashcard and that was simple enough for me.

PangingJr · May 15, 2007, 11:48 AM

i think it depends on the system's CMOS/BIOS features and its setup utility software, however, i find under my experiences on all of my Intel 925/945/955/965 chipset-based motherboards, on both the ones that i'm now using and ones that i used to used in the past few years, they all are/were having the Hard Disk Boot Priority sub-menus which i can use this option to select the priority for Hard disk drives startup.
and all system BIOS have been set as follow...

Hard Disk Boot Priority...
1) Main disk drive (or RAID volume) that holds Windows boot partition
2) Data drives (RAID array/volume) -->
4) Linux filesystem disk drive
5) USB mass storage/USB Flash drive (for some reason which i don't know the reason yet, but some of USB drives won't show up here)
6) Add-on cards

First / Second / Third Boot Device...
First = Floppy
Second = CDROM
Third = Hard Disk
and Boot Other Device [Enabled]

this way if i want to boot from a floppy disk or CD/DVD i just need to insert the boot media in to its drive, otherwise the system BIOS will boot the active partition that is exist on the main disk drive at the time of the booting.

on the Vista computer i also always have a USB flash drive installed on the system, i mean it's there at all time.
and in the case that the system also has Linux on one of its disk drives and the system's CMOS/BIOS have a <F12> Boot Menu, which is a quick-key access to select boot sequence for onboard devices, then recently, i occasionally plug in another USB flash drive that has GRUB installed on its MBR before i restart the computer into a Linux system, however, in order to boot into the Linux i need to access the Boot Menu via <F12> and then select USB-HDD as the first device to boot from, and then this causes system BIOS to detect the USB-HDD as HDD0 and if this disk is bootable, then system will boot from it, and then i can boot the Linux with GRUB. the reason that i want to do this because i don't want GRUB to be on boot sector of my RAID volumes, nor on the boot sector of my Vista installed.

a bit off topic, anyway, all of my system with that have USB flash drives installed on them and with the above BIOS setting are booting okay.

May 12, 2007, 07:08 PM	#1
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	weird problem when ipod or zune is plugged in I dont know if you'll need my specs for this or not but I have a DFI Infinity SLI board with an Opteron 165 and 1gb of DDR ram. and some other stuff if you need it.. basically the issue is this: If at any time during the boot up process I have my zune or my ipod plugged in, the computer hangs. Its WEIRD. My old computer occasionally did this too. So if the thing is plugged in when i turn it on, it'll show the ID for my processor but it wont make it to the ram test. It will just hang. Often times, unplugging the offending player will cause the boot sequence to continue. If however I wait until after the bios has booted but BEFORE windows has booted, it will hang to a black screen right after the loading bar finishes. Does anyone know whats up with this? Its strange. __________________

May 13, 2007, 12:43 AM	Thread Starter #4
Geminiwave I Have lovely Breasts Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In the closet... Posts: 5,395 Rep Power: 64	thats a problem...I'm really not fond of that if thats the case. I'll check the boot sequence, but i'm pretty sure that the USB thing isnt set there. __________________

May 15, 2007, 08:56 AM	#5
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	did you ever sort this out? I know my mate had a similar problem and USB was set in the boot priority to the first device.

May 15, 2007, 09:30 AM	#7
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Dyre, did you try making the USB device the last in the boot chain via the bios? (or turning it off altogether if the mobo gives you the option). I did it with the asus board im using on the quad core and it is fine, and I use a 2GB flash drive as a readyboost drive in vista so it needs to be in all the time.

May 15, 2007, 11:48 AM	#9
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i think it depends on the system's CMOS/BIOS features and its setup utility software, however, i find under my experiences on all of my Intel 925/945/955/965 chipset-based motherboards, on both the ones that i'm now using and ones that i used to used in the past few years, they all are/were having the Hard Disk Boot Priority sub-menus which i can use this option to select the priority for Hard disk drives startup. and all system BIOS have been set as follow... Hard Disk Boot Priority... 1) Main disk drive (or RAID volume) that holds Windows boot partition 2) Data drives (RAID array/volume) --> 4) Linux filesystem disk drive 5) USB mass storage/USB Flash drive (for some reason which i don't know the reason yet, but some of USB drives won't show up here) 6) Add-on cards First / Second / Third Boot Device... First = Floppy Second = CDROM Third = Hard Disk and Boot Other Device [Enabled] this way if i want to boot from a floppy disk or CD/DVD i just need to insert the boot media in to its drive, otherwise the system BIOS will boot the active partition that is exist on the main disk drive at the time of the booting. on the Vista computer i also always have a USB flash drive installed on the system, i mean it's there at all time. and in the case that the system also has Linux on one of its disk drives and the system's CMOS/BIOS have a <F12> Boot Menu, which is a quick-key access to select boot sequence for onboard devices, then recently, i occasionally plug in another USB flash drive that has GRUB installed on its MBR before i restart the computer into a Linux system, however, in order to boot into the Linux i need to access the Boot Menu via <F12> and then select USB-HDD as the first device to boot from, and then this causes system BIOS to detect the USB-HDD as HDD0 and if this disk is bootable, then system will boot from it, and then i can boot the Linux with GRUB. the reason that i want to do this because i don't want GRUB to be on boot sector of my RAID volumes, nor on the boot sector of my Vista installed. a bit off topic, anyway, all of my system with that have USB flash drives installed on them and with the above BIOS setting are booting okay.