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**kris23** · Jun 10, 2007, 07:06 AM

cool...... so are they worth the extra couple bucks?

Lowfat · Jun 10, 2007, 03:15 PM

if its not much, i would say so.

Necrosis · Jun 10, 2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowfat

same thing. Stock is limited to a single 7900GTX or a single 1950XTX. Anything better goes up to Pro Stock.

But a x1950xtx can some times be faster than a 2900? Wouldn't it be the same then? Hmm maybe I'll be nice & leave Chaos alone. Broke down & bought a Q6600 which should be here next week sometime. Anyone want an E6700 on the cheap?

**kris23** · Jun 10, 2007, 10:17 PM

to Chaos and Lowfat i am returning my armor case as i found out the case is somewhat deformed(the add in cards dont align properly with the back) , and getting the Stacker 832 case.

is the fan cage tooless? id rather use screws so i can install the silenX 38mm thick fans.

ChaosMinionX · Jun 11, 2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Necrosis

Fine then I'll buy a 2900.

If I really wanted to crush the prostock. I could pull 4.2ghz on air

and further feed volts into the X1900, but I havent. I wont be having the title for long because I will be going crossfire or SLI of the next gen cards coming out, and using penryn.

@kris yes the xeons imo are worth the extra cash.

**kris23** · Jun 11, 2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

If I really wanted to crush the prostock. I could pull 4.2ghz on air

and further feed volts into the X1900.

@kris yes the xeons imo are worth the extra cash.

my god man.............. 4.2GHZ!?!?!?!?!

4.2 freaken GHz....... ok im definitely sold on the Xeons.

the Xeon 3060 is 20 or so dollars above the e6600 and the quadcore is 50 or so......... now thats good info.

whats your cooler? i wanted to get the thermalright ultra extreme but its a little big so i may just get the swiftech cooling kit

but is the fan side panel capable of handling the thicker 38mm fans? or am i stuck with the standard size?

ChaosMinionX · Jun 11, 2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

my god man.............. 4.2GHZ!?!?!?!?!

4.2 freaken GHz....... ok im definitely sold on the Xeons.

the Xeon 3060 is 20 or so dollars above the e6600 and the quadcore is 50 or so......... now thats good info.

whats your cooler? i wanted to get the thermalright ultra extreme but its a little big so i may just get the swiftech cooling kit

but is the fan side panel capable of handling the thicker 38mm fans? or am i stuck with the standard size?

Takes about 1.6-1.65v volts for 4.2ghz with an Enzotech Ultra-X though its only bench stable. And no I dont think it will fit 38mm fans, only 25mm

ChaosMinionX · Jun 11, 2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

okay then.

btw, just for my record purposes. could you please tell me the existing system config ?
all of these info only if they are available by your system monitoring software and it's okay if thay are not acurated enough.

CPU FSB: 500
CPU multiplier: 7x
Memory multiplier: 1:1
Memory timings: 4-4-4-12 twr-6 trfc-30 twtr-9 trrd-6 trtp-6

OverVoltage settings for...
CPU - 1.4125v (voltage damper enabled)
MCH - 1.4v
FSB - 1.4v
PCI-E no PCIE voltage setting, however its set to 120mhz
RAM - 2.3v

System's temperature...
CPU: 38C idle
CPU: 51-52C with Orthos or Everest Stability test
Chipsets: Not a clue, I would have to get a temp probe for it.
Motherboard: 35C
Room Temp - 30C

and PSU's 12V, 3.3V and 5V lines (while in idle, and while in ORTHOS's system stress test)- Not a clue without looking at it further.

PangingJr · Jun 11, 2007, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

CPU FSB: 500
CPU multiplier: 7x
Memory multiplier: 1:1
Memory timings: 4-4-4-12 twr-6 trfc-30 twtr-9 trrd-6 trtp-6

OverVoltage settings for...
CPU - 1.4125v (voltage damper enabled)
MCH - 1.4v
FSB - 1.4v
PCI-E no PCIE voltage setting, however its set to 120mhz
RAM - 2.3v

System's temperature...
CPU: 38C idle
CPU: 51-52C with Orthos or Everest Stability test
Chipsets: Not a clue, I would have to get a temp probe for it.
Motherboard: 35C
Room Temp - 30C

and PSU's 12V, 3.3V and 5V lines (while in idle, and while in ORTHOS's system stress test)- Not a clue without looking at it further.

Thanks, ChaosMinionX.

ChaosMinionX · Jun 11, 2007, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

Thanks, ChaosMinionX.

Not a problem.....

I also found out where the hell the errors were coming from....one of my sticks was born retarded and it errors like crazy by itself. The other are memtesting right now flawlessly, this one took me 6hrs of individual testing between P5B Deluxe and P5K Deluxe with loops of memtest, 1 each for all 10 tests. This freakin stick wont even pass the adress itself test right

But the current settings I listed pang are quite liberal I think, I will tighten em down with these other 3 sticks and see how it performs. But just so you know those settings are fine with the functioning ram

EDIT: To clarify

Memory timings: 4-4-4-12 twr-4 trfc-25 twtr-9 trrd-4 trtp-6

Runs rock solid with my working sticks at 2.15v

They will boot 2.10v at DDR2 1000 4-4-4-12 but wont pass memtest.... on the other hand with increased voltage the main timings dont respond any better, 4-4-4-10 isnt stable at all, I will try tweaking one of the 3 latencies at 4 down a bit maybe 3, with exception of CAS because cas 3 DDR2 1000 takes 2.45 to boot on this board. Will report more memory findings.

PangingJr · Jun 11, 2007, 07:57 AM

GeIL Unleashed team has the Intel BadAxe2 with GeIL Ultra Plus DDR2 800 CAS3 2X1GB @ 507MHz (Frequency) FSB : DRAM 2:3 and 4-4-4-4 with only 2.12V and Prime95 (don't mention for how long). i'm confuse what is the DDR2 speed? -- http://www.geilunleashed.com/review.php?id=2

ChaosMinionX · Jun 11, 2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

GeIL Unleashed team has the Intel BadAxe2 with GeIL Ultra Plus DDR2 800 CAS3 2X1GB @ 507MHz (Frequency) FSB : DRAM 2:3 and 4-4-4-4 with only 2.12V and Prime95 (don't mention for how long). i'm confuse what is the DDR2 speed? -- http://www.geilunleashed.com/review.php?id=2

@420Mhz 3-4-3-4 2.2V Everest Prime95
@435Mhz 3-4-3-4 2.32V Everest Prime95
@447Mhz 3-4-3-4 2.4V Everest Prime95
@507Mhz 4-4-4-4 2.12V Everest Prime95

At 507MHZ that ram is DDR2 1014 at 4-4-4-4

**kris23** · Jun 11, 2007, 07:14 PM

you got some pretty decent timings there

PangingJr · Jun 12, 2007, 08:21 PM

ChaosMinionX, i think, if you like to play with both the DIMM timings and its voltage and try to make it for the better or best, you certainly need to run memtest on each and every time after you made the change to the settings in BIOS and before attempting to load Windows.

i would leave a memtest boot media in its drive and have BIOS boot from this drive first, and then after you change the DIMM's setting, save and exit BIOS setup, then upon next boot up, run a short test to verify your settings, may be just run the test #5 of the memtest86+ 1.65/1.70 for about 5 passes or so (to get the memtest86+ to start the test #5 quick... once the system boots into the memtest... press following keys... C --> 1 --> 3 --> 5 --> Enter --> 0).

then if error is found by the memtest, or you like to try a different DIMM voltage or settings, restart the system into BIOS setup... redo a short memtest.
and then you can run a more complete and long test at later time.

ChaosMinionX · Jun 13, 2007, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

ChaosMinionX, i think, if you like to play with both the DIMM timings and its voltage and try to make it for the better or best, you certainly need to run memtest on each and every time after you made the change to the settings in BIOS and before attempting to load Windows.

i would leave a memtest boot media in its drive and have BIOS boot from this drive first, and then after you change the DIMM's setting, save and exit BIOS setup, then upon next boot up, run a short test to verify your settings, may be just run the test #5 of the memtest86+ 1.65/1.70 for about 5 passes or so (to get the memtest86+ to start the test #5 quick... once the system boots into the memtest... press following keys... C --> 1 --> 3 --> 5 --> Enter --> 0).

then if error is found by the memtest, or you like to try a different DIMM voltage or settings, restart the system into BIOS setup... redo a short memtest.
and then you can run a more complete and long test at later time.

Im in the process of doing so atm actually. I need to get 1 of my 6400C3DF replaced, its dead and erroring like mad. The other 3 are running rock solid.

ChaosMinionX · Jun 25, 2007, 09:00 PM

Heres finished product, still have some cable management to do and sleeving, but heres the early stages. Have some other things to add on as well.

EDIT: Took a Dremel to the middle of the front 3 mesh/alu faces in front of the HDD Cage 120mm. Installed a temp C/F probe for inside the case.

**kris23** · Jun 25, 2007, 11:14 PM

so so sexy....... I WANT MY CASE NOW!!!!

i miss my old machine

ChaosMinionX · Jun 26, 2007, 12:20 AM

I have to say that the Stacker is probably the best case I have ever used

, I will probably never change again, this is all the case I could ever need

The possibilities are endless

**kris23** · Jun 26, 2007, 01:11 AM

especially if you know how to mod..... i mean the 4x side vents are suitablee for any dual processor or quad processor system that would come out! i mean as long as it stays within the ATX-EATX range this is the ultimate case!!! you can probably make air ducts for each individual component from the 4 huge 120mm fans

you can probably mod the bottom to use 2 120mm fans as well..... just need a drill or dremel and you are set!

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kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	to Chaos and Lowfat i am returning my armor case as i found out the case is somewhat deformed(the add in cards dont align properly with the back) , and getting the Stacker 832 case. is the fan cage tooless? id rather use screws so i can install the silenX 38mm thick fans. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

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PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	GeIL Unleashed team has the Intel BadAxe2 with GeIL Ultra Plus DDR2 800 CAS3 2X1GB @ 507MHz (Frequency) FSB : DRAM 2:3 and 4-4-4-4 with only 2.12V and Prime95 (don't mention for how long). i'm confuse what is the DDR2 speed? -- http://www.geilunleashed.com/review.php?id=2 Last edited by PangingJr; Jun 11, 2007 at 08:02 AM.

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kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	you got some pretty decent timings there __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jun 12, 2007, 08:21 PM	#74
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	ChaosMinionX, i think, if you like to play with both the DIMM timings and its voltage and try to make it for the better or best, you certainly need to run memtest on each and every time after you made the change to the settings in BIOS and before attempting to load Windows. i would leave a memtest boot media in its drive and have BIOS boot from this drive first, and then after you change the DIMM's setting, save and exit BIOS setup, then upon next boot up, run a short test to verify your settings, may be just run the test #5 of the memtest86+ 1.65/1.70 for about 5 passes or so (to get the memtest86+ to start the test #5 quick... once the system boots into the memtest... press following keys... C --> 1 --> 3 --> 5 --> Enter --> 0). then if error is found by the memtest, or you like to try a different DIMM voltage or settings, restart the system into BIOS setup... redo a short memtest. and then you can run a more complete and long test at later time.

Jun 25, 2007, 09:00 PM	Thread Starter #76
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	Shes up and Runnin! Heres finished product, still have some cable management to do and sleeving, but heres the early stages. Have some other things to add on as well. EDIT: Took a Dremel to the middle of the front 3 mesh/alu faces in front of the HDD Cage 120mm. Installed a temp C/F probe for inside the case. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg! Last edited by ChaosMinionX; Jun 25, 2007 at 10:11 PM.

Jun 25, 2007, 11:14 PM	#77
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	so so sexy....... I WANT MY CASE NOW!!!! i miss my old machine __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jun 26, 2007, 12:20 AM	Thread Starter #78
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	I have to say that the Stacker is probably the best case I have ever used , I will probably never change again, this is all the case I could ever need The possibilities are endless __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Jun 26, 2007, 01:11 AM	#79
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	especially if you know how to mod..... i mean the 4x side vents are suitablee for any dual processor or quad processor system that would come out! i mean as long as it stays within the ATX-EATX range this is the ultimate case!!! you can probably make air ducts for each individual component from the 4 huge 120mm fans you can probably mod the bottom to use 2 120mm fans as well..... just need a drill or dremel and you are set! __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!