I bought one of these:

Just Learnin' · Jun 16, 2007, 06:07 PM

http://xfxforce.com:80/web/product/l...tionId=1118128

PV-T80U-SHD9
GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB DDR3 RoHS Dual DVI XXX
Game Bundle GRAWClock rate 675 MHzDual Link DVI - Supporting digital output up to 2560x1600 DualMemory Clock 2.3 GHzChipset GeForce 8800 UltraMemory 768 MBBus Type PCI-EMemory Type DDR3Memory Bus 384 bitHighlighted FeaturesHDCP Ready , RoHS , SLI ready , HDTV ready , Dual DVI Out , Vista
Memory Interface384 bitMemory Bandwidth103.7 GB/secFill Rate39.2 billion/secChipsetGeForce™ 8800 UltraRAMDACs400 MHzShader Clock1500 MHzStream Processors128
[COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR]
[COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=blue]And I was wondering if one of these would do it justice?[/COLOR] http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/m...Specifications[/COLOR]

SyncMaster 275T-Black (27" Wide Monitor)

The Samsung SyncMaster 275T is a 27-inch wide TFT-LCD monitor delivering an ultra-fast response time of 6ms (GTG), DC 3000:1 contrast ratio, 0.303mm pixel pitch, 1920 x 1200 maximum resolution, scanning frequency of 30-81 kHz horizontal and 56-75 Hz vertical, and horizontal/vertical viewing angle of 178°/178°. The SyncMaster 275T has USB 2.0 (1 up x 4 down), MagicColor, MagicBright3, Optional speaker.

[COLOR=blue]If not what would you suggest?[/COLOR]

Judas · Jun 16, 2007, 06:15 PM

enjoy

only thing better would be the jump to a dell or apple or HP 30" 2560x1600 monitor.... which has a very crazy pixel pitch.... very dense and sharp

Just Learnin' · Jun 16, 2007, 06:23 PM

I take it that is a vote in favor of that monitor? It is on sale at FutureShop for $999.00 CDN, anything comparable in that price range?

CDsDontBurn · Jun 16, 2007, 07:23 PM

alot of the early 8800 cards had an issue w/apple displays. the issue was that you couldn't see anything, but you could hear everything. plug in another monitor, and it worked just fine.

if you're going the apple monitor route, you might want to double check if that's been fixed.

BlueMak · Jun 16, 2007, 08:44 PM

It has been fixed. I remember seeing a fix for it, though not where.

Enjoy your new hardware!

As for the Samsun monitor, what panel does it use?

I can't suggest any other monitor at 27", but my new 24" is freaking cool.
LG L245WPM-BN. I highly recommend it.

GutterPunk · Jun 16, 2007, 09:11 PM

Looks nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jealousy

Just Learnin' · Jun 16, 2007, 10:49 PM

I grabbed the Samsung. The panel is made by Samsung according to the letter "S" by the model number on the back of the monitor. Or so it says in the review on this site: http://www.overclockersonline.net/in...um=1061&pnum=3 Mine has the same letter "S" on it.

**kris23** · Jun 16, 2007, 11:09 PM

the samsung has high response time (6ms) so its better than the other guys, color however i dont know

Lowfat · Jun 17, 2007, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

the samsung has high response time (6ms) so its better than the other guys, color however i dont know

6ms isn't high. I bet 90% of people couldn't even notice 'ghosting' on a 16ms panel or even a 25ms panel. Response time really means nothing. I have a 5ms screen now, and notice no different from my old 25ms panel.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 17, 2007, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

6ms isn't high. I bet 90% of people couldn't even notice 'ghosting' on a 16ms panel or even a 25ms panel. Response time really means nothing. I have a 5ms screen now, and notice no different from my old 25ms panel.

i could tell.

back when i used to work at the shop, i would compare some of the older 25ms monitors to the newer 15/16ms monitors of the time, and the newer monitors of the time would look much clearer when gaming. of course, at the time, the CRTs were still the best.

NAZ2222 · Jun 17, 2007, 05:09 AM

That card and monitor combination is just amazing! great buy indeed

Just Learnin' · Jun 17, 2007, 06:43 AM

I will know early next week as the card was shipped Friday.

Lowfat · Jun 17, 2007, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

i could tell.

back when i used to work at the shop, i would compare some of the older 25ms monitors to the newer 15/16ms monitors of the time, and the newer monitors of the time would look much clearer when gaming. of course, at the time, the CRTs were still the best.

were both quality displays? I use the 25ms still, and side by side even when gaming I dont notice a thing.

zaim · Jun 17, 2007, 08:44 AM

benchies!!!!!! i wanna see results

CDsDontBurn · Jun 17, 2007, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowfat

were both quality displays? I use the 25ms still, and side by side even when gaming I dont notice a thing.

yes they were. one was a View Sonic, the other was a Samsnung. i forget the models of each display, but both were 17in. sized models.

The View Sonic monitor had the 25ms response time and when looking around (we had UT2K4 installed on both machines) i could definately see the ghosting effect on that monitor. On the Samsung monitor, 16ms response time, i could still see the ghosting, but it wasn't anywhere nearly as bad. Then the "el cheapo" store brand 17in. CRT looked clear as day. no ghosting what-so-ever.

mind you, this was back in the day....coming up on 2yrs. since then. LCDs now have improved so much, i would actually compare them to a CRT

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Judas · Jun 18, 2007, 06:29 AM

While lowfat may not notice a difference between a 6ms and 25ms (depending on how they measured the responce time as different companies seem to spit up different responce time results, usually trying to outpromote the other, sometimes a 6ms responce is in actuality closer to say 12ms for the full test not thier cheaper ripoff method)

Swimtech would be probably better suited to explain that stuff.

However, Different people are more prone to SEEING things like this, i can definitely tell the difference between a 4ms and 8ms screen, course it really depends on the movements or suden changes that are taking affect.

My dell 3007wfp with a 14ms responce, i can REALLY notice ghosting.... but i usually ignore it because it's not a huge amount of ghosting let alone anything to be really concerned about (it's not like i get a blurry messed up ugly looking image, but there is definitely a noticeable delay occasionally)

Just Learnin' · Jun 18, 2007, 08:56 PM

Can't play yet, have to go to work.

**kris23** · Jun 18, 2007, 09:22 PM

is this a shrine to the almighty 8800 ultra?

i bow to it

Necrosis · Jun 18, 2007, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

While lowfat may not notice a difference between a 6ms and 25ms (depending on how they measured the responce time as different companies seem to spit up different responce time results, usually trying to outpromote the other, sometimes a 6ms responce is in actuality closer to say 12ms for the full test not thier cheaper ripoff method)

Swimtech would be probably better suited to explain that stuff.

However, Different people are more prone to SEEING things like this, i can definitely tell the difference between a 4ms and 8ms screen, course it really depends on the movements or suden changes that are taking affect.

My dell 3007wfp with a 14ms responce, i can REALLY notice ghosting.... but i usually ignore it because it's not a huge amount of ghosting let alone anything to be really concerned about (it's not like i get a blurry messed up ugly looking image, but there is definitely a noticeable delay occasionally)

Judas can you see Ultraviolet light? Does your middle name happen to be Prot???

Judas · Jun 19, 2007, 04:21 AM

See utlraviolet?

WEll maybe, shortly before my retnas burn out and or something else happens.....

and i've 2 middle names....

Just Learnin' · Jun 19, 2007, 03:59 PM

Any suggestions for which software to use to overclock this card?

E6600 @ 3.7GHZ, no overclock on the card:

**kris23** · Jun 20, 2007, 11:04 PM

first question, do u even need to? you have THEE most powerful GPU on the planet.... if so, I guess ATiTool should have nvidia support despite the name.

dunno about others though...

Just Learnin' · Jun 21, 2007, 04:08 PM

RivaTuner works best it seems, if you had the card wouldn't you want to see what it actually can do?

Necrosis · Jun 21, 2007, 05:40 PM

Hey Learnin' how many sticks of that ram are you running?

Just Learnin' · Jun 21, 2007, 07:26 PM

All 4 sticks.

procupine14 · Jun 23, 2007, 02:15 AM

My shuttle monitor is the older version (@ 16ms) and i can't notice a thing. My general rule when looking at monitors (from personal experience) is if its under 20ms then I can't tell and therefore I don't care. But I like my shuttle. As for the monitor in question...nice purchase.

Just Learnin' · Jun 23, 2007, 06:06 AM

A little better, E6600@3843MHz - Geforce 8800 Ultra @ 689/1150:

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 4, 2007, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

Judas can you see Ultraviolet light? Does your middle name happen to be Prot???

ROFLMAO

Jun 16, 2007, 06:07 PM	#1
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	I bought one of these: http://xfxforce.com:80/web/product/l...tionId=1118128 PV-T80U-SHD9 GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB DDR3 RoHS Dual DVI XXX Game Bundle GRAWClock rate 675 MHzDual Link DVI - Supporting digital output up to 2560x1600 DualMemory Clock 2.3 GHzChipset GeForce 8800 UltraMemory 768 MBBus Type PCI-EMemory Type DDR3Memory Bus 384 bitHighlighted FeaturesHDCP Ready , RoHS , SLI ready , HDTV ready , Dual DVI Out , Vista Memory Interface384 bitMemory Bandwidth103.7 GB/secFill Rate39.2 billion/secChipsetGeForce™ 8800 UltraRAMDACs400 MHzShader Clock1500 MHzStream Processors128 [COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=darkorange][COLOR=blue]And I was wondering if one of these would do it justice?[/COLOR] http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/m...Specifications[/COLOR] SyncMaster 275T-Black (27" Wide Monitor)The Samsung SyncMaster 275T is a 27-inch wide TFT-LCD monitor delivering an ultra-fast response time of 6ms (GTG), DC 3000:1 contrast ratio, 0.303mm pixel pitch, 1920 x 1200 maximum resolution, scanning frequency of 30-81 kHz horizontal and 56-75 Hz vertical, and horizontal/vertical viewing angle of 178°/178°. The SyncMaster 275T has USB 2.0 (1 up x 4 down), MagicColor, MagicBright3, Optional speaker. [COLOR=blue]If not what would you suggest?[/COLOR] Last edited by Just Learnin'; Jun 16, 2007 at 06:16 PM.

Jun 16, 2007, 06:23 PM	Thread Starter #3
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	I take it that is a vote in favor of that monitor? It is on sale at FutureShop for $999.00 CDN, anything comparable in that price range? Last edited by Just Learnin'; Jun 16, 2007 at 06:23 PM. Reason: spelling

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Jun 16, 2007, 10:49 PM	Thread Starter #7
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	I grabbed the Samsung. The panel is made by Samsung according to the letter "S" by the model number on the back of the monitor. Or so it says in the review on this site: http://www.overclockersonline.net/in...um=1061&pnum=3 Mine has the same letter "S" on it.

Jun 16, 2007, 11:09 PM	#8
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Jun 17, 2007, 06:43 AM	Thread Starter #12
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	I will know early next week as the card was shipped Friday.

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Jun 18, 2007, 08:56 PM	Thread Starter #17
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Can't play yet, have to go to work.

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Jun 19, 2007, 03:59 PM	Thread Starter #21
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Any suggestions for which software to use to overclock this card? E6600 @ 3.7GHZ, no overclock on the card: Last edited by Just Learnin'; Jun 19, 2007 at 04:05 PM. Reason: add question

Jun 20, 2007, 11:04 PM	#22
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	first question, do u even need to? you have THEE most powerful GPU on the planet.... if so, I guess ATiTool should have nvidia support despite the name. dunno about others though... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jun 21, 2007, 04:08 PM	Thread Starter #23
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	RivaTuner works best it seems, if you had the card wouldn't you want to see what it actually can do?

Jun 21, 2007, 05:40 PM	#24
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hey Learnin' how many sticks of that ram are you running?

Jun 21, 2007, 07:26 PM	Thread Starter #25
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	All 4 sticks.

Jun 23, 2007, 02:15 AM	#26
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	My shuttle monitor is the older version (@ 16ms) and i can't notice a thing. My general rule when looking at monitors (from personal experience) is if its under 20ms then I can't tell and therefore I don't care. But I like my shuttle. As for the monitor in question...nice purchase.

Jun 23, 2007, 06:06 AM	Thread Starter #27
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	A little better, E6600@3843MHz - Geforce 8800 Ultra @ 689/1150: