HD2900XT 1GB with Thermalright HR-03 R600....

ChaosMinionX · Sep 22, 2007, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaosophy

ChaosMinionX, quick question if it's ok.

I've just fitted one of these and I'm a bit worried about something, wondered if you could check it on yours. Or if you or anyone else can shed some light on my issues.

Basically I want to know what the 'VDDC slave temps' are that ATi Tool can monitor?

Reason I ask is that prior to fitting the cooler these temps sat in the low/mid 90s when under stress before but now in fitting the HR-03 they shot up over 100 before I bottled it and stopped the test.

The only thing I can think is that I need to completely flood the square frame around the CPU chip with TIM as the old gunky stock stuff seemed to fill this space. At the moment I only put TIM on the top of the chip and the matching square on the heat sink.

thanks.

DO NOT fill the space around the chip with thermal paste lol.... that wont help one bit, however VDDC slave temps I havent a clue, it refers to something on the board, probably the voltage regs which I dont know their operating temp (but they usually run very hot), also make sure you have the heatsink installed properly, put hand pressure on it and tighten down the nuts some more. It could also be that ATI Tool is reading it wrong, if everything is running fine I wouldnt worry about it...

Chaosophy · Sep 23, 2007, 01:12 AM

Thanks for the answer but out of interest, if you use ATi Tool what temps do yours show? It's just that before they where in the 90s under load , now under the same load I've had them up to nearly 130

and the only thing that has change is the cooler. That's what's bugging me about it.

Card 'seems' to be working but I'm just a bit worried about just ignoring it and having it burn out on me. Annoyingly I've had to fit the cooler under the card so I think the hot air is getting trapped under the card at the moment and over heating something.

Taking the PCI blanking plates off of my spare slots has helped a bit but they're still a lot higher than before.

I'll leave the TIM as is for now but don't think it'd be too much of a problem filing the area around the chip as the stock gunk did, can still see the dents in it !

Other than that it definitely seems fitted ok, looks nice and flush and the core temp has definitely dropped. Ram sinks are fitted ok as well, so all I can think is these temp readings are coming from something that had decent air flow over them with the old cooler as looking at it I can't see what else it was touching, either with the back plate or heat sink.

It's weird thought that I can't find any info on these temps, found plenty of forums with threads where people have fitted water blocks etc but no mention of these temps. And loads of people use ATi Tool. Maybe it's not an issue as I guess people would have come across it by now.

Sorry to be a pain but you can hopefully understand me not wanting to burn out my new £250 card, especially now I've voided the warranty.

Ah well, off to do some stress runs and hope it doesn't melt.

Kazeko · Sep 28, 2007, 07:04 AM

Chaosminion!

Well, you were right, for the most part, it fits, but the fan doesn't.

It sorta hangs off, and I can't actually secure the fan at all, because of how far off the Heat sink it sits.

Still pretty pleased with the performance though, didn't think it'd be that good, from aluminum sink. 58C loaded with 27C Ambient Temps. Compared to the 61C idle and 71C loaded temps. I'll take 13 degrees.

I let it run passively cooled, and the natural airflow (and convection) in this case held it at 67C loaded. (Funny thing is, with, or without the fan on it, putting the side of the case on drops the temps by almost 4C. Smooth airflow and good convection ftw.)

Kinda disappointed at how cluttered that end of the rig is though. There's a whole lot of heatsinks smashed in a really small space. Convection ftw though, it's all flowing directly up.

ChaosMinionX · Sep 28, 2007, 07:08 PM

Glad it worked, even though the fan doesnt fit on all the way leave it their, it will still cool enough to make it alot better than passive.

lethialle · Sep 29, 2007, 07:23 PM

sorry to be a bother, but I just installed this HS on my R600 1GB, but my idle temp is around 47-50oC

Ambient temp according to Rivatuner is 43oC. Did I install the thing poorly? I am used to adding 3rd party HSF to CPU or GPUs, but the setup of the HR-03 is a bit worrisome for me, since I have no idea how to make sure all the 4 bolts are as tight as possible (since it is not possible to reach in and secure the two bolts that are covered by the massive Heatsink

)

Also, how did you get such a great OC on your GPU? Before the HSF replacement, the CCC overdrive would recommend the core to be set to 845mhz, but if I set the core to that, the DX10 bench for Call of Juarez would artifact like mad

)

thanks for reading, and helping

**kris23** · Sep 29, 2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethialle

sorry to be a bother, but I just installed this HS on my R600 1GB, but my idle temp is around 47-50oC

Ambient temp according to Rivatuner is 43oC. Did I install the thing poorly? I am used to adding 3rd party HSF to CPU or GPUs, but the setup of the HR-03 is a bit worrisome for me, since I have no idea how to make sure all the 4 bolts are as tight as possible (since it is not possible to reach in and secure the two bolts that are covered by the massive Heatsink

)

Also, how did you get such a great OC on your GPU? Before the HSF replacement, the CCC overdrive would recommend the core to be set to 845mhz, but if I set the core to that, the DX10 bench for Call of Juarez would artifact like mad

)

thanks for reading, and helping

dont worry dude, you are not a bother. first of all, heatsinks cannot cool below ambient temperature, it just goes against the laws of nature!

if you can get a thermometer into your case, use it to measure your internal temp.

things cooled by heatsinks are usually a few degrees C above ambient.

what thermal paste are you using? Arctic Silver 5 is recommended, but Arctic Cooling MX-2 compound is the safest and best to use. (safe for the hardware so do not eat)

if you cant do that, at least give us the name of your case, that way we can do research on the normal internal temp.

just so you know, ChaosMinionX uses a maxed out CoolerMaster Stacker 830 case in black, one of the best air cooled cases on the market if not THE best

lastly, can you check the heatpipes? look for physical damage and feel them for proper heat transfer, all of them should be hot. if one is cooler than the rest, you may have a defective product. Thermalright has a history of serious quality control issues.

good luck man, i hope you figure out how to get ur max OC

lethialle · Sep 29, 2007, 08:29 PM

Thanks for the reply, re-reading my last post, I felt kinda stupid. I knew that ambient temp is the lowest I can hope, sigh... I am turning senile at a young age

I actually used AC MX-2, since I have misplaced my AS-5 somehow

. I also got a nifty IR thermometer to get the temps.

My room is at a cool 23oC, but my Antec Solo case doesn't seem to want to drop the internal temp down below 45oC

I guess this is what I get for trying to build a quiet PC. To think I even replaced all the fans with the Sharkoon golfballs

Thanks for letting me know that Chaos actually has a Stacker 830, I was just about to ask how the heck can you get the internal temp that low!

As for the OC, it seems that DX10 apps kills the OC-ability. So I am wonder what is the max OC that you folks got for your R600 when running Dx10 games?

thanks

**kris23** · Sep 29, 2007, 09:41 PM

wow so you ACTUALLY have MX-2 compound? dont worry about AS-5 man! MX-2 is years ahead of AS-5 in performance and versatility, its just better! it BEAT Arctic Silver 5

not to mention be impossible to find

now about that case, you either need a new case, or get some high pumping fans in there, remember, silence and overclocking generally dont mix. 45C isnt that good for internal temps....

i highly suggest getting a new case if you are seriously considering OCing

the Stacker is sexy nice so if you get that, you are set but theres also the coolermaster 690 case thats only 60 dollars and uses up to 7 fans!

EDIT: looking at the solo case..... i can understand why its called "Solo" wow i would never stick my hardware into something like that..... a SOLO fan..... its like some kind of computer torture chamber...

please, for the sake of your hard drive, motherboard, CPU, memory, and very, very expensive 2900XT upgrade your case! everything must be like 60C....

please consider this: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

swimtech · Sep 29, 2007, 10:12 PM

ChaosMinionX - Gorgeous!

lethialle · Sep 30, 2007, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

wow so you ACTUALLY have MX-2 compound? dont worry about AS-5 man! MX-2 is years ahead of AS-5 in performance and versatility, its just better! it BEAT Arctic Silver 5

not to mention be impossible to find

now about that case, you either need a new case, or get some high pumping fans in there, remember, silence and overclocking generally dont mix. 45C isnt that good for internal temps....

i highly suggest getting a new case if you are seriously considering OCing

the Stacker is sexy nice so if you get that, you are set but theres also the coolermaster 690 case thats only 60 dollars and uses up to 7 fans!

EDIT: looking at the solo case..... i can understand why its called "Solo" wow i would never stick my hardware into something like that..... a SOLO fan..... its like some kind of computer torture chamber...

please, for the sake of your hard drive, motherboard, CPU, memory, and very, very expensive 2900XT upgrade your case! everything must be like 60C....

please consider this: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Thanks for the help!

Yeah I originally got the solo because 1) it was like 30 bucks

2) it has great silent PC features and good wire management features. 3) I wanted a small case (having worked on it now, I will never go for a small case again, everytime I work on it I get a new cut on my finger

) At the time Antec P182 isn't out yet

But since then, I have picked up a P182 and it is just sitting there... Now that I think about it, maybe it was karma that my mobo just died on me today.... Couldn't post no beep, nothing... Even w/o anything connected. (Tried another PSU too)

At any rate, I guess it is the higher power telling me to use my P182 case...

Speaking of MX-2, I discovered this online store: Petra's Tech Shopwhile browsing on slickdeals, it has great price and great selection of PC modding stuff, and great service. But yeah please don't buy all the MX-2s leave some for me please

Now, back to moaning the passing of my asus mobo

**kris23** · Sep 30, 2007, 12:48 AM

something tells me that the solo case was the entire reason why your P5K Deluxe died...

comparing it to the rest of your system, that was by far the worst purchase you made....

the P182 isnt the best design case, it limits PSU size greatly, circulation by the mobo could have been better... but its still good, alot better than your last one..

Necrosis · Sep 30, 2007, 04:18 AM

Lethialle if you need any pointers on using that P182 just let me know. The swap over can be kinda tedious, and you might need a cable extender. Also if you install the fan on the front it greatly improves air flow around your MB. On my board it dropped the temps down to around the 32-38 area. I see you have the corsair PSU so you shouldn't have any problems w/ fitting that PSU in.

Just remember to have a lot of nice big zip ties ready.

Still can't believe you had all that hardware stuffed in such a small case.

**kris23** · Sep 30, 2007, 04:31 AM

yup, Necrosis owns this case and knows personally what can go and what can't.

Necrosis · Sep 30, 2007, 04:37 AM

Asmoday helped me out quite a bit too when I switched. Great case but because of the design don't expect to just pop your stuff in.

ChaosMinionX · Sep 30, 2007, 09:26 AM

Like to add to that this is a HD2900XT 1GB from ExtremePC all handpicked cards and custom bios

So it tends to do better than a standard card would.

And I mounted the HR03 R600 with Liquid Metal Pro (Which I highly dont recommend you do if you have no experience with Liquid Metal, or have the cash to replace if you fry your card. Its pure metal, it is very conductive)

lethialle · Sep 30, 2007, 10:59 AM

Thanks Kris, necro and Chaos!

Gosh, now I really feel like a nub. The thing is when I started my PC build I "was" gonna just gonna go for something cheap. But the Overclocker in me got the best of me and I started to look for quality parts.
I would have gotten the 8800GTX if it weren't for the small size of the case too (that and I thought the R600 technology is worth supporting).

I should have posted more here!

I have lurked for years, but just recently signed up. You guys are great!

Fitting everything in the small case was a pain, and it took me hours to get all the wires organized. Yeah like I said, I have learnt my lesson

I just thought that I might actually be able to build a good PC that is kinda mobile

Back to the HD 2900 XT: what do you normally run the card at for games Chaos? I assume that you only use the extreme clocks for benching right?

I wish I have some hand picked parts, now if you get a crossfire setup going with two of those hand picked parts, man...

I am curious about this liquid metal thing, if it is what I think it is how can it even work? doesn't it turn your HS into a giant conductor with a direct connection to the core of the GPU? (scary thought)

**kris23** · Sep 30, 2007, 04:42 PM

basically, thats what liquidmetal does... Arctic Cooling MX-2 is just as good apparently so i suggest that over liquidmetal

ChaosMinionX · Sep 30, 2007, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

basically, thats what liquidmetal does... Arctic Cooling MX-2 is just as good apparently so i suggest that over liquidmetal

MX2 is only a slight improvement to AS5... Liquid Metal is still the best you can get (Liquid Metal Ultra T.B.A) in any of my testing, as well as others and reviewers testing Liquid Metal Pro beats AS5 and old MX1 by an average of 3C... I have had results as good as 5C (required lapping the chip, and the HSF to a perfectly flat interface at 800 or 1000grit)

But for safety sake, and ease of use I suppose MX2 would be the way to go, Liquid Metal isnt used by many because its very hard to use, and is much more dangerous to powered devices

My normal gaming clocks are 875/1100

EDIT: Couple reviews

Coollaboratory Liquid (Metal) Pro vs Arctic Silver 5 - EXTREME Overclocking Forums

Hardware-Mag - Artikel - Test: Coollaboratory Liquid MetalPad im Test (german review, so I got you the graphs)

Plenty more out there as well, I can post if youd like to see... on a side note the Liquid Metal Pads by CoolLaboratory work quite well too, however in my testing they have been 1C or so worse than using the actual liquid.

lethialle · Oct 1, 2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

My normal gaming clocks are 875/1100

if only...

Now about the Hr-03, do you guys think the heatsink on the memory that came with it would be enough? It seem that the stock cooler has better cooling for the memory at least.

Also, I wanna be sure about this: how much paste do you put on the GPUs? I use as much as I would for my CPU, since I don't want paste everywhere, but should I put more (like as much as the stock cooler uses?)

thanks

ChaosMinionX · Oct 1, 2007, 12:49 AM

HR03 R600 + Cool Laboratory Liquid Metal Pads for ATI/NVIDIA GPU's.... will work the best

EDIT: Mind you I paid $600 for my HD2900

Will probably replacing it with HD2950XTX if its released.

lethialle · Oct 1, 2007, 01:26 AM

lol, forgot that you use the uber stuff

The HD2950XTX? I haven't heard anything about it, care to shed some light on it please?

**kris23** · Oct 1, 2007, 02:05 AM

basically its the unofficial name for the upcoming ATi/AMD refresh to the R600 core its R670 or something like that....

lethialle · Oct 1, 2007, 02:38 AM

I thought that was dub'ed 2950XT? Is the XTX version the one with longer board?

ChaosMinionX · Oct 1, 2007, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethialle

I thought that was dub'ed 2950XT? Is the XTX version the one with longer board?

No concrete evidence of a 2950 XT or XTX but they gotta revive the XTX at some point.

lethialle · Oct 5, 2007, 10:52 PM

Time to report back... So it turns out that my gfx is the culprit, it somehow died.... I have booted up and played game with the R600 after the HR-03 installation, I even checked the temp, which looked fine during 3d game play...

sigh, I don't know why the card won't even boot up... Do I have to connect the fan to the onboard fan controller or something?

All indication points to that my card got fried though

Is there any way to tell for sure?

thanks

Edit: Okay, so apparently my system still boots up to windows.... WTF! I thought that a bad VGA would stop the system from booting up!? I am so confused... Please help.

**kris23** · Oct 6, 2007, 12:02 AM

was your thermal paste applied properly? were the memory chips and regulators cooled properly?

lethialle · Oct 6, 2007, 12:09 AM

yeah I follow the instructions on the Hr-03. As always, I grounded my self with a wrist wrap while I was working with the computer... The only thing I can think that might have gone wrong was how tight the HS was attached to the card, but I checked the bolts and the gap between the GPU-sim and the HS, and they all looked even.

I have no idea what's going on...

On another note, are all Antec cases speaker less? I need to find a system speaker somewhere... Is there anyway to get the post beep to be played via the sound card?

ChaosMinionX · Oct 6, 2007, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethialle

yeah I follow the instructions on the Hr-03. As always, I grounded my self with a wrist wrap while I was working with the computer... The only thing I can think that might have gone wrong was how tight the HS was attached to the card, but I checked the bolts and the gap between the GPU-sim and the HS, and they all looked even.

I have no idea what's going on...

On another note, are all Antec cases speaker less? I need to find a system speaker somewhere... Is there anyway to get the post beep to be played via the sound card?

Yeah, cause P5K DLX doesnt have onboard speaker for error codes

However post beep isnt going to tell you anything about VGA problems, only whether or not its being initialized.

lethialle · Oct 6, 2007, 03:18 AM

oh I have a Blitz formular now

And it doesn't have an onboard speaker. And unless I am misunderstanding ya, I don't believe P5k have onboard speaker either, am I wrong about that?

TBH, I haven't heard a post beep in weeks now, mostly because of all the problems that I am having, so i can't tell you for sure if there is beep or not for the P5K

All I know is that when I had everything running on the P5K, there was no beep when I couldn't post...

Also, according to the LCD POSTER, CPU init passed, so is it safe to assume that the cpu is not the problem? I mean I can boot into windows, I just don't have any video

Is there a way to flash the VGA bios? The LCD poster sometimes show that the boot gets stopped at loading the VGA BIOS phase... I am just trying everything I can to prevent another purchase of a gfx card so soon, I wanted to wait for the next gen to come out first

Sep 28, 2007, 07:04 AM	#33
Kazeko DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 174 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Chaosminion! Well, you were right, for the most part, it fits, but the fan doesn't. It sorta hangs off, and I can't actually secure the fan at all, because of how far off the Heat sink it sits. Still pretty pleased with the performance though, didn't think it'd be that good, from aluminum sink. 58C loaded with 27C Ambient Temps. Compared to the 61C idle and 71C loaded temps. I'll take 13 degrees. I let it run passively cooled, and the natural airflow (and convection) in this case held it at 67C loaded. (Funny thing is, with, or without the fan on it, putting the side of the case on drops the temps by almost 4C. Smooth airflow and good convection ftw.) Kinda disappointed at how cluttered that end of the rig is though. There's a whole lot of heatsinks smashed in a really small space. Convection ftw though, it's all flowing directly up. Last edited by Kazeko; Sep 28, 2007 at 07:09 AM.

Sep 28, 2007, 07:08 PM	Thread Starter #34
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	Glad it worked, even though the fan doesnt fit on all the way leave it their, it will still cool enough to make it alot better than passive. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Sep 29, 2007, 09:41 PM	#38
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	wow so you ACTUALLY have MX-2 compound? dont worry about AS-5 man! MX-2 is years ahead of AS-5 in performance and versatility, its just better! it BEAT Arctic Silver 5 not to mention be impossible to find now about that case, you either need a new case, or get some high pumping fans in there, remember, silence and overclocking generally dont mix. 45C isnt that good for internal temps.... i highly suggest getting a new case if you are seriously considering OCing the Stacker is sexy nice so if you get that, you are set but theres also the coolermaster 690 case thats only 60 dollars and uses up to 7 fans! EDIT: looking at the solo case..... i can understand why its called "Solo" wow i would never stick my hardware into something like that..... a SOLO fan..... its like some kind of computer torture chamber... please, for the sake of your hard drive, motherboard, CPU, memory, and very, very expensive 2900XT upgrade your case! everything must be like 60C.... please consider this: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums! Last edited by kris23; Sep 29, 2007 at 09:54 PM.

Sep 29, 2007, 10:12 PM	#39
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	ChaosMinionX - Gorgeous! __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Sep 30, 2007, 12:48 AM	#41
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	something tells me that the solo case was the entire reason why your P5K Deluxe died... comparing it to the rest of your system, that was by far the worst purchase you made.... the P182 isnt the best design case, it limits PSU size greatly, circulation by the mobo could have been better... but its still good, alot better than your last one.. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 23, 2007, 01:12 AM	#32
Chaosophy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: London, England Posts: 41 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the answer but out of interest, if you use ATi Tool what temps do yours show? It's just that before they where in the 90s under load , now under the same load I've had them up to nearly 130 and the only thing that has change is the cooler. That's what's bugging me about it. Card 'seems' to be working but I'm just a bit worried about just ignoring it and having it burn out on me. Annoyingly I've had to fit the cooler under the card so I think the hot air is getting trapped under the card at the moment and over heating something. Taking the PCI blanking plates off of my spare slots has helped a bit but they're still a lot higher than before. I'll leave the TIM as is for now but don't think it'd be too much of a problem filing the area around the chip as the stock gunk did, can still see the dents in it ! Other than that it definitely seems fitted ok, looks nice and flush and the core temp has definitely dropped. Ram sinks are fitted ok as well, so all I can think is these temp readings are coming from something that had decent air flow over them with the old cooler as looking at it I can't see what else it was touching, either with the back plate or heat sink. It's weird thought that I can't find any info on these temps, found plenty of forums with threads where people have fitted water blocks etc but no mention of these temps. And loads of people use ATi Tool. Maybe it's not an issue as I guess people would have come across it by now. Sorry to be a pain but you can hopefully understand me not wanting to burn out my new £250 card, especially now I've voided the warranty. Ah well, off to do some stress runs and hope it doesn't melt.

Sep 29, 2007, 07:23 PM	#35
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	sorry to be a bother, but I just installed this HS on my R600 1GB, but my idle temp is around 47-50oC Ambient temp according to Rivatuner is 43oC. Did I install the thing poorly? I am used to adding 3rd party HSF to CPU or GPUs, but the setup of the HR-03 is a bit worrisome for me, since I have no idea how to make sure all the 4 bolts are as tight as possible (since it is not possible to reach in and secure the two bolts that are covered by the massive Heatsink ) Also, how did you get such a great OC on your GPU? Before the HSF replacement, the CCC overdrive would recommend the core to be set to 845mhz, but if I set the core to that, the DX10 bench for Call of Juarez would artifact like mad ) thanks for reading, and helping

Sep 29, 2007, 08:29 PM	#37
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the reply, re-reading my last post, I felt kinda stupid. I knew that ambient temp is the lowest I can hope, sigh... I am turning senile at a young age I actually used AC MX-2, since I have misplaced my AS-5 somehow . I also got a nifty IR thermometer to get the temps. My room is at a cool 23oC, but my Antec Solo case doesn't seem to want to drop the internal temp down below 45oC I guess this is what I get for trying to build a quiet PC. To think I even replaced all the fans with the Sharkoon golfballs Thanks for letting me know that Chaos actually has a Stacker 830, I was just about to ask how the heck can you get the internal temp that low! As for the OC, it seems that DX10 apps kills the OC-ability. So I am wonder what is the max OC that you folks got for your R600 when running Dx10 games? thanks

Sep 30, 2007, 04:18 AM	#42
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Lethialle if you need any pointers on using that P182 just let me know. The swap over can be kinda tedious, and you might need a cable extender. Also if you install the fan on the front it greatly improves air flow around your MB. On my board it dropped the temps down to around the 32-38 area. I see you have the corsair PSU so you shouldn't have any problems w/ fitting that PSU in. Just remember to have a lot of nice big zip ties ready. Still can't believe you had all that hardware stuffed in such a small case.

Sep 30, 2007, 04:31 AM	#43
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	yup, Necrosis owns this case and knows personally what can go and what can't. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 30, 2007, 04:37 AM	#44
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Asmoday helped me out quite a bit too when I switched. Great case but because of the design don't expect to just pop your stuff in.

Sep 30, 2007, 09:26 AM	Thread Starter #45
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	Like to add to that this is a HD2900XT 1GB from ExtremePC all handpicked cards and custom bios So it tends to do better than a standard card would. And I mounted the HR03 R600 with Liquid Metal Pro (Which I highly dont recommend you do if you have no experience with Liquid Metal, or have the cash to replace if you fry your card. Its pure metal, it is very conductive) __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Sep 30, 2007, 10:59 AM	#46
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Kris, necro and Chaos! Gosh, now I really feel like a nub. The thing is when I started my PC build I "was" gonna just gonna go for something cheap. But the Overclocker in me got the best of me and I started to look for quality parts. I would have gotten the 8800GTX if it weren't for the small size of the case too (that and I thought the R600 technology is worth supporting). I should have posted more here! I have lurked for years, but just recently signed up. You guys are great! Fitting everything in the small case was a pain, and it took me hours to get all the wires organized. Yeah like I said, I have learnt my lesson I just thought that I might actually be able to build a good PC that is kinda mobile Back to the HD 2900 XT: what do you normally run the card at for games Chaos? I assume that you only use the extreme clocks for benching right? I wish I have some hand picked parts, now if you get a crossfire setup going with two of those hand picked parts, man... I am curious about this liquid metal thing, if it is what I think it is how can it even work? doesn't it turn your HS into a giant conductor with a direct connection to the core of the GPU? (scary thought) __________________ Momento Mori

Sep 30, 2007, 04:42 PM	#47
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	basically, thats what liquidmetal does... Arctic Cooling MX-2 is just as good apparently so i suggest that over liquidmetal __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 1, 2007, 12:49 AM	Thread Starter #50
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	HR03 R600 + Cool Laboratory Liquid Metal Pads for ATI/NVIDIA GPU's.... will work the best EDIT: Mind you I paid $600 for my HD2900 Will probably replacing it with HD2950XTX if its released. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Oct 1, 2007, 01:26 AM	#51
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	lol, forgot that you use the uber stuff The HD2950XTX? I haven't heard anything about it, care to shed some light on it please? __________________ Momento Mori

Oct 1, 2007, 02:05 AM	#52
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	basically its the unofficial name for the upcoming ATi/AMD refresh to the R600 core its R670 or something like that.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 1, 2007, 02:38 AM	#53
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I thought that was dub'ed 2950XT? Is the XTX version the one with longer board? __________________ Momento Mori

Oct 5, 2007, 10:52 PM	#55
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Time to report back... So it turns out that my gfx is the culprit, it somehow died.... I have booted up and played game with the R600 after the HR-03 installation, I even checked the temp, which looked fine during 3d game play... sigh, I don't know why the card won't even boot up... Do I have to connect the fan to the onboard fan controller or something? All indication points to that my card got fried though Is there any way to tell for sure? thanks Edit: Okay, so apparently my system still boots up to windows.... WTF! I thought that a bad VGA would stop the system from booting up!? I am so confused... Please help. __________________ Momento Mori Last edited by lethialle; Oct 5, 2007 at 11:08 PM. Reason: Err my system still boots up...

Oct 6, 2007, 12:02 AM	#56
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	was your thermal paste applied properly? were the memory chips and regulators cooled properly? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Oct 6, 2007, 12:09 AM	#57
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	yeah I follow the instructions on the Hr-03. As always, I grounded my self with a wrist wrap while I was working with the computer... The only thing I can think that might have gone wrong was how tight the HS was attached to the card, but I checked the bolts and the gap between the GPU-sim and the HS, and they all looked even. I have no idea what's going on... On another note, are all Antec cases speaker less? I need to find a system speaker somewhere... Is there anyway to get the post beep to be played via the sound card? __________________ Momento Mori

Oct 6, 2007, 03:18 AM	#59
lethialle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wish I know for sure Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	oh I have a Blitz formular now And it doesn't have an onboard speaker. And unless I am misunderstanding ya, I don't believe P5k have onboard speaker either, am I wrong about that? TBH, I haven't heard a post beep in weeks now, mostly because of all the problems that I am having, so i can't tell you for sure if there is beep or not for the P5K All I know is that when I had everything running on the P5K, there was no beep when I couldn't post... Also, according to the LCD POSTER, CPU init passed, so is it safe to assume that the cpu is not the problem? I mean I can boot into windows, I just don't have any video Is there a way to flash the VGA bios? The LCD poster sometimes show that the boot gets stopped at loading the VGA BIOS phase... I am just trying everything I can to prevent another purchase of a gfx card so soon, I wanted to wait for the next gen to come out first __________________ Momento Mori