Attention All Who Have Bottomless Wallets

**kris23** · Sep 12, 2007, 12:53 AM

check out the BY FAR most expensive DDR3 on the market today!

Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

so.... any rich dudes gonna buy it? lol

ChaosMinionX · Sep 12, 2007, 02:13 AM

DDR3 is hardly worth it atm

**kris23** · Sep 12, 2007, 02:19 AM

lol it was a joke

whod pay 1000+ for this memory? 4Gb will probably be the norm in a few months

ChaosMinionX · Sep 12, 2007, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

lol it was a joke

whod pay 1000+ for this memory? 4Gb will probably be the norm in a few months

I paid over a grand for my memory at the date of purchase

4GB though

**kris23** · Sep 12, 2007, 03:34 AM

hey when you buy 2x2 sticks..... for you that be 4x2GB DDR3 when you jump

now a grand..... THAT will be worth it

CDsDontBurn · Sep 12, 2007, 05:25 AM

darn! it's outta stock! i was so going to buy that! too bad too because i found the same kit at my local shop for $100 more. oh well. at least i'll have the satisfaction of buying it and walking out with it as soon as i buy it

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Dyre Straits · Sep 12, 2007, 06:00 AM

I don't have a deep wallet. But, I DO have holes in my pockets. Does that count?

procupine14 · Sep 12, 2007, 06:15 AM

yeah i saw that kit today....damn...and to think i was going on there to buy $100 corsair XMS 2 GB kit lol

anyone else see timings on it? 7-7-7-20 thats funny to me

CDsDontBurn · Sep 12, 2007, 06:17 AM

yea, i saw those timings. atrochious!

however, it is made up for in the bus speed.

ChaosMinionX · Sep 12, 2007, 06:33 AM

DDR3 7-7-7- anything is pretty low latency

Theres shit with like 9-9-9-21 or something like that.... DDR3 around 1700-1800mhz cas 6 or 7 will be a milestone

and will surely dominate DDR2.

CDsDontBurn · Sep 12, 2007, 06:45 AM

i think i saw a kit out there that did something like 10-10-10-28

PangingJr · Sep 12, 2007, 02:13 PM

well you are lucky that you have to only pay yours that much i will probably have to pay more than 2 times or even 2.5-2.8 or so as much for the same.
still a lot of dough for a good DDR3 right now, and i imagine, in the real world, i would still only get a little compared to DDR2 which is very reasonable price to pay for a good ones as of today.

Judas · Sep 12, 2007, 05:46 PM

..... i want the 4gbx2 kit...

PangingJr · Sep 12, 2007, 08:32 PM

you wait for 8GB kit of 2000MHz DDR3, Judas?

DDR3 technology still has a long way to go, but it seems that this new technology moves fast, though. right now i just hope they are not too expensive.

Kington has a 2GB kit of 1375MHz CL5 (5-7-5-15) 1.8V for $800 (buy direct from Kingston), and this kit has the lowest CAS latencies so far.

Grace · Sep 12, 2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

DDR3 7-7-7- anything is pretty low latency

Theres shit with like 9-9-9-21 or something like that.... DDR3 around 1700-1800mhz cas 6 or 7 will be a milestone

and will surely dominate DDR2.

Actually DDR3 timings and DDR2 timings are not even comparable. DDR3 has an 8-bit prefetch buffer. And timings for DDR3 do little to affect its performance, save for the command rate (1T/2T).

There is a 7-7-7 1800MHz+ kit out...and it's pretty good too!

Judas · Sep 12, 2007, 09:25 PM

If i end up getting a x38 intel chip motherboard with DDR3.... i'll probably just stick some OCZ value stuff in it and run either 2 or 4gb....... Cause DDR3 is still imo, quite aways from full maturity, and theres no way in hell i'll buy ram for over 400 bucks.

ChaosMinionX · Sep 12, 2007, 09:36 PM

highend DDR2 will pound cheap-midrange DDR3..... Its not worth it, besides that X38 is coming in DDR2 flavors as well.

PangingJr · Sep 12, 2007, 10:17 PM

Judas, you mean some DDR3 1066?
i think of that the same way with you before, but i end up changing my mind and will keep using DDR2 motherboard, or might try DDR2/DDR3 board.
then when a better time comes i'm sure i will be using DDR3 only, but just not now, lol. anyways, if you feel you're right, just ignore the critics.

Judas · Sep 13, 2007, 12:36 AM

let me just say it this way....

When i decide to get in another set of cpu/motherboards.... and i have to choose DDR2/3, i'll do all the research i can and try and end up with the biggest bang for the buck. So if DDR2 is still a clear winner for the dollar, i'll stick with it.

ChaosMinionX · Sep 13, 2007, 02:55 AM

Currently, no real gains are seen on DDR3 platforms until you hit about 1600-1700mhz with low latencies, and currently the only things that are doing this are the Micron Z9 IC's and they are mega expensive....give no markup by the companies, the cheapest they could be produced and used in a module still put them somewhere around $500-600 because Micron knows they are sitting on a gold mine.

I only forsee DDR3 becoming as a Highend when they have it around 2000mhz+ which Intel is promising that is what X38/X48 will be capable of, was stated directly as 2.4ghz timings were not stated however. You would need such bandwidth to overcome the latencies and beat DDR2...

This best can be seen when comparing the GDDR3 vs GDDR4 GPU memory, depending on who makes it (Samsung BC06 .1ns 1600mhz GDDR4 is the best on the market but is also very pricey) anyways you will note in the HD2900XT 512MB vs 1GB the difference in memory speed is at least 300-400mhz (GDDR3 = 800mhz or so, GDDR4 = 1100mhz actual clocks will vary according to manufacturer specifications) yet they perform similarly... same thing happened with X1900 to X1950 they went from GDDR3 to GDDR4 and had massive increases in speed of the chips, but the latencies brought them in line with their GDDR3 counterparts, unless of course your like me and you overclock them like mad and you really start to see the difference between GDDR3 and GDDR4. But at current there is no real benefit especially when companies are using GDDR4 Samsung BC09 1100mhz .91ns because its cheaper, you might as well stick 1GB of GDDR3 on there.

But for another story, the reason the HD2900 seems to not perform like it does, certainly isnt the speed of the memory, it almost has too much memory bandwidth, but not as much on the core, you see the biggest gains on that card when you max out the core.

Sep 12, 2007, 12:53 AM	#1
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	Attention All Who Have Bottomless Wallets check out the BY FAR most expensive DDR3 on the market today! Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail so.... any rich dudes gonna buy it? lol __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

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Sep 12, 2007, 02:19 AM	Thread Starter #3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	lol it was a joke whod pay 1000+ for this memory? 4Gb will probably be the norm in a few months __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 12, 2007, 03:34 AM	Thread Starter #5
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	hey when you buy 2x2 sticks..... for you that be 4x2GB DDR3 when you jump now a grand..... THAT will be worth it __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Sep 12, 2007, 05:25 AM	#6
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	darn! it's outta stock! i was so going to buy that! too bad too because i found the same kit at my local shop for $100 more. oh well. at least i'll have the satisfaction of buying it and walking out with it as soon as i buy it . __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

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Sep 12, 2007, 06:17 AM	#9
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	yea, i saw those timings. atrochious! however, it is made up for in the bus speed. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 12, 2007, 06:33 AM	#10
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	DDR3 7-7-7- anything is pretty low latency Theres shit with like 9-9-9-21 or something like that.... DDR3 around 1700-1800mhz cas 6 or 7 will be a milestone and will surely dominate DDR2. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Sep 12, 2007, 06:45 AM	#11
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	i think i saw a kit out there that did something like 10-10-10-28 __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Sep 12, 2007, 02:13 PM	#12
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	well you are lucky that you have to only pay yours that much i will probably have to pay more than 2 times or even 2.5-2.8 or so as much for the same. still a lot of dough for a good DDR3 right now, and i imagine, in the real world, i would still only get a little compared to DDR2 which is very reasonable price to pay for a good ones as of today.

Sep 12, 2007, 08:32 PM	#14
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	you wait for 8GB kit of 2000MHz DDR3, Judas? DDR3 technology still has a long way to go, but it seems that this new technology moves fast, though. right now i just hope they are not too expensive. Kington has a 2GB kit of 1375MHz CL5 (5-7-5-15) 1.8V for $800 (buy direct from Kingston), and this kit has the lowest CAS latencies so far.

Sep 12, 2007, 09:36 PM	#17
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	highend DDR2 will pound cheap-midrange DDR3..... Its not worth it, besides that X38 is coming in DDR2 flavors as well. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Sep 12, 2007, 10:17 PM	#18
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 69	Judas, you mean some DDR3 1066? i think of that the same way with you before, but i end up changing my mind and will keep using DDR2 motherboard, or might try DDR2/DDR3 board. then when a better time comes i'm sure i will be using DDR3 only, but just not now, lol. anyways, if you feel you're right, just ignore the critics.

Sep 13, 2007, 02:55 AM	#20
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 45 System Specs	Currently, no real gains are seen on DDR3 platforms until you hit about 1600-1700mhz with low latencies, and currently the only things that are doing this are the Micron Z9 IC's and they are mega expensive....give no markup by the companies, the cheapest they could be produced and used in a module still put them somewhere around $500-600 because Micron knows they are sitting on a gold mine. I only forsee DDR3 becoming as a Highend when they have it around 2000mhz+ which Intel is promising that is what X38/X48 will be capable of, was stated directly as 2.4ghz timings were not stated however. You would need such bandwidth to overcome the latencies and beat DDR2... This best can be seen when comparing the GDDR3 vs GDDR4 GPU memory, depending on who makes it (Samsung BC06 .1ns 1600mhz GDDR4 is the best on the market but is also very pricey) anyways you will note in the HD2900XT 512MB vs 1GB the difference in memory speed is at least 300-400mhz (GDDR3 = 800mhz or so, GDDR4 = 1100mhz actual clocks will vary according to manufacturer specifications) yet they perform similarly... same thing happened with X1900 to X1950 they went from GDDR3 to GDDR4 and had massive increases in speed of the chips, but the latencies brought them in line with their GDDR3 counterparts, unless of course your like me and you overclock them like mad and you really start to see the difference between GDDR3 and GDDR4. But at current there is no real benefit especially when companies are using GDDR4 Samsung BC09 1100mhz .91ns because its cheaper, you might as well stick 1GB of GDDR3 on there. But for another story, the reason the HD2900 seems to not perform like it does, certainly isnt the speed of the memory, it almost has too much memory bandwidth, but not as much on the core, you see the biggest gains on that card when you max out the core. __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!