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Old Sep 27, 2007, 01:38 AM   #1
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rolleyes ugh..some help?

soooo i suck when it comes to computers so bear with me here...sooo my computer was running slower than usual so my friend recommended that i reformat my computer so i did. So when i got everything installed again and i tried starting up Guildwars but i got some graphics error or something. So i went to check what was the problem and i found that my Graphics card thingy was set to VgaSave. I had some help building this computer so i have no idea what the name of the driver is. All i know is that its an Emachines computer. I tried to download the driver thing from the site but i didnt work. Sooo im run out of idea on what to do next. Some help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
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soooo i suck when it comes to computers so bear with me here...sooo my computer was running slower than usual so my friend recommended that i reformat my computer so i did. So when i got everything installed again and i tried starting up Guildwars but i got some graphics error or something. So i went to check what was the problem and i found that my Graphics card thingy was set to VgaSave. I had some help building this computer so i have no idea what the name of the driver is. All i know is that its an Emachines computer. I tried to download the driver thing from the site but i didnt work. Sooo im run out of idea on what to do next. Some help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
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First of all, when you do a complete format and new installation of Windows, you'll ALSO need to install and update the Motherboard Drivers. You should have a CD that came with the Motherboard and the drivers will be included on that. You should definitely check the Motherboard manufacturer's website for updated drivers and even a BIOS update for it as well.

Now, these Motherboard drivers will NOT automatically install the drivers for your graphics card. You need to know which card you have in the PC.

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Old Sep 27, 2007, 11:18 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
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Operating System System ModelWindows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) ECS 761GX-M754 1.0
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b1.60 gigahertz AMD Mobile Athlon XP-M
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
128 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Board: ECS 761GX-M754-964 1.0
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 080012 02/14/2006
Drives Memory Modules c,d80.02 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
55.99 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8161B [CD-ROM drive]
SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-248F [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

WDC WD800AB-00CBA1 [Hard drive] (80.02 GB) -- drive 0
480 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'DIMM0' has 512 MB (serial number SerNum0)
Slot 'DIMM1' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes c: (NTFS on drive 0)80.02 GB55.99 GB free Network Drives None detectedUsers (mouse over user name for details) Printerslocal user accountslast logon[IMG]file:///C:/Program%20Files/Belarc/Advisor/System/local/images/trans.gif[/IMG] Administrator8/24/2007 11:46:40 PM(admin)[IMG]file:///C:/Program%20Files/Belarc/Advisor/System/local/images/trans.gif[/IMG] Paul9/27/2007 6:00:22 AM(admin)local system accounts[IMG]file:///C:/Program%20Files/Belarc/Advisor/System/local/images/no.gif[/IMG] Guestnever[IMG]file:///C:/Program%20Files/Belarc/Advisor/System/local/images/no.gif[/IMG] HelpAssistantnever[IMG]file:///C:/Program%20Files/Belarc/Advisor/System/local/images/no.gif[/IMG] SUPPORT_388945a0never
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None detected Controllers DisplayStandard floppy disk controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller] (2x)
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] (2x)
SiS PCI IDE Controller
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
None detectedBus Adapters MultimediaSiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller (3x)
SiS PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller
Aureal Vortex 8820 Audio (WDM)
Aureal Vortex Game Port
Communications Other DevicesSiS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter[COLOR=green] primary [/COLOR] Auto IP Address: 71.72.218.94 / 22Gateway: 71.72.216.1Dhcp Server: 10.54.0.1Physical Address: 00:16:EC:45:A1:EANetworking Dns Servers: 65.24.7.3
65.24.7.6
USB Human Interface Device
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
HID-compliant mouse
Vortex Multifunction PCI Parent
USB Root Hub (4x)
Insignia Video Player
Virus Protection [[COLOR=#0000ff]Back to Top[/COLOR]] avast! antivirus 4.7.1043 [VPS 000777-1] Version 4.7.1043 Realtime File Scanning On Missing Microsoft Security Hotfixes [[COLOR=#0000ff]Back to Top[/COLOR]] These required security hotfixes (using the 09/11/2007 Microsoft Security Bulletin Summary) were not found installed. Note: CIS benchmarks require that Critical and Important severity security hotfixes must be installed. Q933579- Critical ([COLOR=#0000ff]details...[/COLOR])

well theres the info about my pc that you needed i think..
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It's not telling us what the card is (if there is a card) - if it's a fairly plain emachines, then it's quite likely using the onboard (monitor plugs inyo a socket on the motherboard backplate, rather than one of the slot plates)

Latest drivers direct from Sis would be:


SiS - Welcom to Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation. - SATA/Raid controller

SiS - Welcom to Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation. Graphics

The ECS site also lists the AGP driver, though this is PCI-E, and the MiniIDE driver, though XP SP2 is often able to do without chipset IDE drivers...
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well thanks for the help you guys but the download you gave me didnt work. I installed it them i tried playing a game and it crashed on me, and when it was booting up it said hardware error so i had to uninstall the driver. There was a driver when i first got it but after i reformat it the driver was set to Vga Save. Should i like open up my pc and check what kind it is or something?
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Since it doesn't show a separate video card installed, I'd have to assume that your system is using onboard video. As was mentioned above, the way to tell without opening the case is to note where the monitor plugs in. If it plugs in to the I/O cluster on the back, it's onboard video. If it plugs into one of the add-in slots, then it does have a separate video card installed. I think it doesn't though.

Now, you've got only 512 MB of RAM installed. Since the system is [likely] using onboard video, that means your video adapter is having to use some of the system RAM to function. This is NOT a good configuration for playing the latest/greatest games.

Two things to consider:

1. Separate add-in Video Card with at least 256 MB of VRAM on the card

2. Additional 512 MB of System RAM [2 GB total System RAM would be better....much better] if your system supports it.

It's still not clear from your response whether you have installed the motherboard drivers. Do you have a Recovery CD or something with that system?

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lol like i said i suck when it comes to computers sooo i have no idea what your talking about lol. Well i guess ill just get me a new computer. I needed a new one anyway. Thanks for all your help you guys, much appreciated
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if you are sticking around still, i can get together a list of components to build a new computer, if you are up to it just give me a price range and i will get to work. then if you are set, just buy and build it yourself or have a friend help.

here at driverheaven, we can help people with computer problems but a custom built system is just easier to work with and diagnose due to the wealth of information available for each part.

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lol like i said i suck when it comes to computers sooo i have no idea what your talking about lol. Well i guess ill just get me a new computer. I needed a new one anyway. Thanks for all your help you guys, much appreciated
Where does your monitor plug in to the PC? If it's within the metal framework area where the audio plugs into, then you've got onboard video.
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kris23- sorry i have no idea i just found the pic on the internet

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In this case, you definitely need to install the Motherboard and Device Drivers that are on a CD that came with the PC. You also should check the E-Machines website for updated drivers for that model.

Until you get the correct Graphics Adapter drivers installed, you won't be able to run any of the 3D games.

Some of these E-Machines use a motherboard that won't even let you install a separate video card. So, you'll need to open the case to see if there's even a slot to accept one.

Additionally, if you can swing it, you really do need more RAM. 512 MB using onboard video is really, really stressing things. The newer games work much better with 2 GB of RAM....and a separate video card.

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like stated earlier by Kris 23. Building your own custom computer really doesn't take that much know how in the long run and if something fails it is easier to replace and the system may last a bit longer than any of that prebuilt junk. I personally think that you can get a better bang for your buck if you play your cards right with a custom built system.

EDIT: and any of us are more than capable in giving you guidance on putting everything together and making it work

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hmmm yeah im pretty interested in building my own computer. I have about $950 to spend on building a computer. Some help on what/where to buy would be great. And it would be much appreciated if someone can help me get it together once i get all the parts needed
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hmmm yeah im pretty interested in building my own computer. I have about $950 to spend on building a computer. Some help on what/where to buy would be great. And it would be much appreciated if someone can help me get it together once i get all the parts needed
$950? GODDAMN YOU!!!
My rig was a custom build, and imo it's fairly powerful and it's on the borderline $225 (£120ish including recent memory upgrades).
If you want i can give you a list of parts and you can go e-tailer hunting?
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lol yeah that would be great thanks
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hey, $950 is a fine sum of cash, ill get right to work! ill build a machine with the emphasis on 3D games, but will you be needing a new monitor and keyboard and such?

also, what is your zip code? newegg's shipping charges and tax depend on this.
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thanks alot and yeah ill need a new keyboard and monitor (preferably a flatscreen) if you can. My zip is 45014
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another thing, are you left handed or right handed?
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wow...... this was the biggest stretch ive ever done man........ after about 2 hours of searching i finally done it.... fit alot of todays latest things into that 950 dollar price tag....

Newegg.com - LG Black 18X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 10X DVD+R DL 18X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache E-IDE/ATAPIDVD Burner - OEM
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
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Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - Hanns·G HW-173DBB Black 17" 8ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 500:1 - Retail
Newegg.com - MSI NX8500GT-TD256E GeForce 8500GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-550-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 550W Power Supply 110-115V/ 220-230V Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSM, FCC, CCC - Retail
Newegg.com - Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys 4 Function Keys USB Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Razer Krait 1600 dpi 3 button Gaming Mouse - Full Retail Multi Language - Retail
Newegg.com - Transcend AxeRAM 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Dual-Core E2140 Allendale 1.6GHz 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Home Basic for System Builders Single Pack CD - OEM

its a good computer.... but if you can give me a it more room, about 1000-1200 i can give you a machine that is on a totally different level of power than this one, one with more powerful graphics, a better monitor, faster memory, better keyboard and mouse and all that good stuff.

but if you cant, this computer still is far superior to the thing you have, it has to be at least 8x better in every standpoint
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thanks alot i owe you. ill order it tommorow. Im right handed by the way, And i might be able to get some extra cash because if the site accpets a voucher for $450 then you can pick out the better stuff
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ok no prob dude, if they accept that 450 dollar voucher, then that 1400 dollars would really help. tell me how it works out as i never knew an online store could accept them lol
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E2140 Allendale? A $74.99 CPU on a $104.99 motherboard?
I'd skimp on something else and go fot an E4300 (larger cache), or at least an E2160.

The keyboard & mouse, while great gaming pedigrees, are priced on their name.
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well..... heres the powerful machine that is simply more powerful and better

if there was anything to change, it would be the processor, but that could always be OCed to remove the bottleneck.

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E2140 Allendale? A $74.99 CPU on a $104.99 motherboard?
I'd skimp on something else and go fot an E4300 (larger cache), or at least an E2160.

The keyboard & mouse, while great gaming pedigrees, are priced on their name.
yea.... the processor was something i didnt really like but everything else was put to its bear minimum.... an 8500 wasn't something i wanted to go with.. and everything else just wasnt a choice

but still.... as long as you have a good motherboard, you can effectively double the performance of a low end processor such as the allendale cores and have them rival the speed of a higher conroe E6XXX series.

in time, im pretty sure this guy will need to upgrade the processor but that would be the only thing he would need to upgrade for a while compared to a system with everything at a "mid level"...

i gave him the Arctic Cooling MX-2 compound which is the best currently out so we could help him out in overclocking using stock cooling
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so AzNxHaVoX, do you like what you see? the difference between the $950 model and the $1400 is massive!

the motherboards are the same because the MSI has the best features for 119 bucks, it supports crossfire (a system of using multiple graphics cards to boost performance) so if you ever want another 2900PRO in like.... a few months, you can get it!

the motherboard has good RAID (a system of using multiple hard drives to boost speed)

and it has alot of expansion slots, 2 PCI slots (the white ones), 2 PCI-Express x1 slots (the small ones, successor to PCI slots) and 2 PCI-Express x16 slots (the longest one and the graphics card slots)


the 2900PRO graphics card is an underclocked version of ATi's flagship 2900XT, in other words, its fast, very fast. at least 8x faster than the 8500GT and you can add another in the future in the second slot of the motherboard

the memory for this board is designed by Crucial, the leading memory company currently and is equipped with their highest grade Micron D9s, some of the best for performance.

the harddrive is a seagate 320GB drive and i had a 400GB version, they are cheap, stable, and good performers, while not the best, its the biggest bang for buck.

the mouse is the Razer DeathAdder, the current most accurate, ergonomically designed mouse you can buy right here, right now, theres an upcoming Razer Lachesis but thats not for a while. this is why i was wondering about your hand orientation

the keyboard is the Razer Tarantula and its sexy nice, just dont scratch it. its responsive, the keys are a little hard at first but they soften up after a bit of breaking in. so nice

the case is a massive bang for buck at 60 dollars, capable of holding 6 120mm fans and an 80mm to cool the UNDERSIDE of the motherboard. no other case i know of cools the underside of the board without modding and i know some boards have certain things there that need to be cooled

lastly the monitor is a good resolution 1680x1050 widescreen, 1080P HD ready monitor this thing is 20 inches!


well i hope you like it

so any word about that voucher?
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yeah its great thanks for all the help. I havent heard from them yet. Even if i cant use the voucher i might dish out some extra cash and get the $1400 model. I already ordered most of the parts already
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hey seriously? thats so awesome..... honestly im jealous.... my system is nothing compared to that thing, im running a puny laptop and my old rig was toasted a while back.... haha yea...

anyways, what parts did you order?
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i ordered all the parts from your 2nd list of parts. Is that all the parts i need?
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all of them huh? yea thats all you need, i never really knew that you were able to amass so much money in a short time.. i wouldve probably asked if you could order a 3rd party cooler for your system, but its not a mandatory upgrade. you could always get it if you feel you need more power.

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and yes, those parts are ALL the things YOU need to get started, once they come in, just look at the instructions for each item and get familiar with each component.

do you have any area in the house that you could work on the computer that is either hardwood or concrete? or like a wood desk? basically any place that doesnt have things that build up static.

i prefer a hardwood or floor since its a very wide space so i don't lose screws and i have no fear of static build up.

if you dont have anything like this, i know laying down paper on like a bed would be just as good, getting a newspaper and spreading it over carpet and stuff like that works good.

anyways, good luck and enjoy your nice ass new computer! ill be here if you ever need any help, and everyone else here is ready to help as well!

EDIT: i found a guide on the internet that can help you get an idea of what you'll need to do when you get the stuff.
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again, if theres anything you are confused or not sure about, just ask! as the guide is not EXACTLY like your system.
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