Couple Seconds of Framerate Drops

chicken32 · Oct 25, 2007, 02:34 AM

Hey, i just built a new computer, and when i play games Counter Strike 1.6, Unreal Tournament 3 demo, and Lost Planet demo to name a few, every now and then EVEN when theres no action happening on screen, even main menu, and all low settings and low resolution, the frame rate drops to like 2-5 fps, really bad framerate, it happens at random times and for 2-10 seconds everytime

My Specs:

Asus M2N-VM DVI
AMD 6000+ X2
BFG Geforce 8600 OC 256 GDDR3
Seagate 8mb cache 250GB
OCZ2VU8002GK OCZ 2gb dual channel RAM

I have some theories to what the problem is, but im not 100% sure:

RAM is 2.1 volts, and Motherboard only gives up to 2.0 volts
Hard drive is only 8mb cache and is too slow
Power supply is only 400W

note: Windows and everything else runs perfectly, no problems, Except when playing games.

procupine14 · Oct 25, 2007, 05:43 AM

you know I think I've seen this problem before but in an older computer a socket 939 system that a friend had did this and I honestly couldn't figure it out.....try running some tests like MemTest and maybe some type of stress test to see if anything hardware wise has its short comings......and you may be having problems with that small of a PSU. nothing to do with the HDD.....my two HDDs are similar to yours and they run fine with only the 8mb cache.....however....is that HDD a 3.0 gb/s HDD?

chicken32 · Oct 25, 2007, 02:56 PM

Yeah the Hard Drive is 3Gb/s SATA. But are you sure it woulnd't be the Ram volatge coming short? As my motherboard puts out 2.o Volts MAX and my RAM needs 2.1 volts

procupine14 · Oct 25, 2007, 03:46 PM

well.....theres no way for you to increase the voltage?

ChaosMinionX · Oct 25, 2007, 07:18 PM

Chances are framerate drops are not from the RAM and something else, most RAM at stock can do less volts than companies warranty them for. They do a medium that all the BINs of RAM fall under so they can say warrantied and not have individual settings for them

2.0v is probably fine, run Memtest 86+ v1.7 (still current I believe)

chicken32 · Oct 25, 2007, 09:51 PM

How about the Power Supply, At 400W, do you guys think its enough for a geforce 8600 OC, one dvd burner, one hard drive, AMD 6000+ and 2 Gb of OCZ ram?

ChaosMinionX · Oct 26, 2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chicken32

How about the Power Supply, At 400W, do you guys think its enough for a geforce 8600 OC, one dvd burner, one hard drive, AMD 6000+ and 2 Gb of OCZ ram?

Yes, those arent drawing that much power at all.

chicken32 · Oct 26, 2007, 04:09 AM

All right, tomorrow im going to try to exchange the case and motherboard, kill two birds with one stone, getting a new case with a wattage more than 400 and a motherboard that supports 2.1Volts ram

OldBuzzard · Oct 26, 2007, 07:58 AM

Just a WAG, but is it possibly a swap/paging file issue? You might try increasing it's size and/or putting it on a seperate HDD if you have one installed.

procupine14 · Oct 26, 2007, 02:34 PM

yeah that may very well be the case

chicken32 · Oct 27, 2007, 02:58 AM

K i just exchange for a mother board that outputs 2.1V on the RAM DIMMS, and IT WORKS!
I'd liek to thank you all for your suggestions!

procupine14 · Oct 27, 2007, 03:54 PM

no problem any time

Oct 25, 2007, 02:34 AM	#1
chicken32 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Couple Seconds of Framerate Drops Hey, i just built a new computer, and when i play games Counter Strike 1.6, Unreal Tournament 3 demo, and Lost Planet demo to name a few, every now and then EVEN when theres no action happening on screen, even main menu, and all low settings and low resolution, the frame rate drops to like 2-5 fps, really bad framerate, it happens at random times and for 2-10 seconds everytime My Specs: Asus M2N-VM DVI AMD 6000+ X2 BFG Geforce 8600 OC 256 GDDR3 Seagate 8mb cache 250GB OCZ2VU8002GK OCZ 2gb dual channel RAM I have some theories to what the problem is, but im not 100% sure: RAM is 2.1 volts, and Motherboard only gives up to 2.0 volts Hard drive is only 8mb cache and is too slow Power supply is only 400W note: Windows and everything else runs perfectly, no problems, Except when playing games.

Oct 25, 2007, 05:43 AM	#2
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	you know I think I've seen this problem before but in an older computer a socket 939 system that a friend had did this and I honestly couldn't figure it out.....try running some tests like MemTest and maybe some type of stress test to see if anything hardware wise has its short comings......and you may be having problems with that small of a PSU. nothing to do with the HDD.....my two HDDs are similar to yours and they run fine with only the 8mb cache.....however....is that HDD a 3.0 gb/s HDD? __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 25, 2007, 03:46 PM	#4
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	well.....theres no way for you to increase the voltage? __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 25, 2007, 07:18 PM	#5
ChaosMinionX USB 3 dot oh Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,911 Rep Power: 47 System Specs	Chances are framerate drops are not from the RAM and something else, most RAM at stock can do less volts than companies warranty them for. They do a medium that all the BINs of RAM fall under so they can say warrantied and not have individual settings for them 2.0v is probably fine, run Memtest 86+ v1.7 (still current I believe) __________________ ::Heatware:: How you can help DriverHeaven by using Digg!

Oct 26, 2007, 07:58 AM	#9
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Just a WAG, but is it possibly a swap/paging file issue? You might try increasing it's size and/or putting it on a seperate HDD if you have one installed. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Oct 25, 2007, 02:56 PM	Thread Starter #3
chicken32 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Yeah the Hard Drive is 3Gb/s SATA. But are you sure it woulnd't be the Ram volatge coming short? As my motherboard puts out 2.o Volts MAX and my RAM needs 2.1 volts

Oct 25, 2007, 09:51 PM	Thread Starter #6
chicken32 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	How about the Power Supply, At 400W, do you guys think its enough for a geforce 8600 OC, one dvd burner, one hard drive, AMD 6000+ and 2 Gb of OCZ ram?

Oct 26, 2007, 04:09 AM	Thread Starter #8
chicken32 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	All right, tomorrow im going to try to exchange the case and motherboard, kill two birds with one stone, getting a new case with a wattage more than 400 and a motherboard that supports 2.1Volts ram

Oct 26, 2007, 02:34 PM	#10
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	yeah that may very well be the case __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Oct 27, 2007, 02:58 AM	Thread Starter #11
chicken32 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	K i just exchange for a mother board that outputs 2.1V on the RAM DIMMS, and IT WORKS! I'd liek to thank you all for your suggestions!

Oct 27, 2007, 03:54 PM	#12
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 58 System Specs	no problem any time __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU