Advice please

cozumel · Nov 12, 2007, 10:40 PM

Yeah I have also been looking at GSkill PQ PC2 8000. That could be a possiblity. Still undecided though whether to go for that or 4xGSkill HZ PC2 6400 or 4xBallistix PC2 6400. The price is more-or-less the same. The timings are good on the HZ. Overclockability on Ballistix beats the rest. And the 2xPQ PC2-8000 would cause less work to the memory controller. Still haven't made my mind up.

Anyhow, looking at the HDD the 7200.11 do have double cache, double the capacity and close to double the cost. Depending how long the delay is on receiving the 8800GT on the pre-order I could hold off making a HDD decision to see how my wallet is faring. (but may stick with 7200.10 regardless due to me me being a tight bugger).

I've got a Noisetaker II 600W that is only a few months old. That should be good enough power for the time being yes? Just a little bit worried if efficiency drops with age that it might not pack enough juice after another 6 months or so and if I start adding bits and pieces to the rig.

Thanks again for feedback.

**kris23** · Nov 12, 2007, 11:30 PM

600w is a good start, the 8800GT doesnt take anything and the quadcore only takes 95w or so, you should be fine

PangingJr · Nov 13, 2007, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

Yeah I have also been looking at GSkill PQ PC2 8000. That could be a possiblity. Still undecided though whether to go for that or 4xGSkill HZ PC2 6400 or 4xBallistix PC2 6400. The price is more-or-less the same. The timings are good on the HZ. Overclockability on Ballistix beats the rest. And the 2xPQ PC2-8000 would cause less work to the memory controller. Still haven't made my mind up.

i may not look like i know what i was talking about, but you can test me, and so you don't just ignore it.
since the motherboard platform you are going to buy is P35-DS4, i sure know what i'm talking about.

you can only overclock the processor by overclocking the CPU Host freq (CPU FSB)...
once you increase CPU FSB, your memory clock speed will also get increased,
the platform chipset can only do as much with the memory ratio of 1:1 or 2.0x memory multi.
then when you increase CPU FSB (or just want to try and see) even more higher, the memory controller won't be able to handle 1GBx4, either memory clock freq, nor timings, any more.

not that, you cannot overclock your system with the DS4 if you are using 1GBx4 (2 sets of 2x1GB DDR2 memory kits). it's all depends on, how far you want to try overclocking the Q6600?, and a few more questions that may help you get to know your overclocking needs, know how to choose the right system memory beforehand.

anyways, do take your time with the decision.

cozumel · Nov 13, 2007, 10:39 PM

I'm gonna go with the 2x2GB GSkill PC2-8000 PQ. It would seem pretty dumb to do anything else...

+rep to PangingJr & kris23 for your time and help

**kris23** · Nov 13, 2007, 11:35 PM

no prob, just doing what i do best

PangingJr · Nov 14, 2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

I'm gonna go with the 2x2GB GSkill PC2-8000 PQ. It would seem pretty dumb to do anything else...

i wish i could test the kit for you, but it's just still selling for not quite resonable price (when compared to its price in the US.) due it's still very new model memory,
and i think the price should be adjusted down yet, otherwise i would buy this memory kit already.

here below is some info about the G.Skill PQ DDR2-1000 memory kit.

[MemoryReaction] G.Skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ - Low in cost, high in speed! - XtremeSystems Forums

GSKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ (2x2GB) Test & Overclocking CL4! - XtremeSystems Forums

[Denny] GSKILL DDR2 1000 4GB (2x2GB) testing - XtremeSystems Forums

G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 mini-review (1020MHz w/ 1.9Vdimm) - XtremeSystems Forums

2x2GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5D 4GBPQ 5-5-5-15 - XtremeSystems Forums

[Photos] 4GB G.Skill F2-8000CL5D 4GBPQ 5-5-5-15 - i4memory.com

cozumel · Nov 15, 2007, 12:54 AM

Thanks for the reviews PangingJr.

Did you remove the backplate from your ds4? Is it possible to remove the crazy cool backplate on its own and leave n/b, s/b and the rest of the crazy cool on the ds4? I'm asking as I'm wondering about aftermarket cooling.

PangingJr · Nov 15, 2007, 12:56 PM

i only have been experiencing with P35-DS4 rev.1.0, i have mine for like a half year or so now, a friend who have bought one about a month after me is also rev.1.0 board. there is only have 1 heatsink at the back of the board and it's around the area of northbridge chip.
i'm not sure about rev.1.1, 1.2 and rev.2.0 boards whether they have the Crazy Cool backplate for the CPU or other heatsinks or not.

PangingJr · Nov 17, 2007, 01:00 PM

so, how's it going? have you got all hardware for your computer yet?

cozumel · Nov 17, 2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PangingJr

so, how's it going? have you got all hardware for your computer yet?

Can't get the EVGA 8800GT 512MB. Resellers ETA was last week but nothing yet....

savo_x86 · Nov 17, 2007, 03:49 PM

go for ati 3850 256mb ddr3...it's in the 8600gts price range and it's almost double in performance...

cozumel · Nov 17, 2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by savo_x86

go for ati 3850 256mb ddr3...it's in the 8600gts price range and it's almost double in performance...

I'm getting the 8800GT NOT the 8600GTS. The performance of the 8800GT is very close to that of an 8800GTX and will spank the 3850...

Nov 12, 2007, 10:40 PM	Thread Starter #31
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Yeah I have also been looking at GSkill PQ PC2 8000. That could be a possiblity. Still undecided though whether to go for that or 4xGSkill HZ PC2 6400 or 4xBallistix PC2 6400. The price is more-or-less the same. The timings are good on the HZ. Overclockability on Ballistix beats the rest. And the 2xPQ PC2-8000 would cause less work to the memory controller. Still haven't made my mind up. Anyhow, looking at the HDD the 7200.11 do have double cache, double the capacity and close to double the cost. Depending how long the delay is on receiving the 8800GT on the pre-order I could hold off making a HDD decision to see how my wallet is faring. (but may stick with 7200.10 regardless due to me me being a tight bugger). I've got a Noisetaker II 600W that is only a few months old. That should be good enough power for the time being yes? Just a little bit worried if efficiency drops with age that it might not pack enough juice after another 6 months or so and if I start adding bits and pieces to the rig. Thanks again for feedback. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Nov 12, 2007, 11:30 PM	#32
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	600w is a good start, the 8800GT doesnt take anything and the quadcore only takes 95w or so, you should be fine __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Nov 13, 2007, 10:39 PM	Thread Starter #34
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	I'm gonna go with the 2x2GB GSkill PC2-8000 PQ. It would seem pretty dumb to do anything else... +rep to PangingJr & kris23 for your time and help __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Nov 13, 2007, 11:35 PM	#35
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	no prob, just doing what i do best __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Nov 15, 2007, 12:54 AM	Thread Starter #37
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Thanks for the reviews PangingJr. Did you remove the backplate from your ds4? Is it possible to remove the crazy cool backplate on its own and leave n/b, s/b and the rest of the crazy cool on the ds4? I'm asking as I'm wondering about aftermarket cooling. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Nov 15, 2007, 12:56 PM	#38
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i only have been experiencing with P35-DS4 rev.1.0, i have mine for like a half year or so now, a friend who have bought one about a month after me is also rev.1.0 board. there is only have 1 heatsink at the back of the board and it's around the area of northbridge chip. i'm not sure about rev.1.1, 1.2 and rev.2.0 boards whether they have the Crazy Cool backplate for the CPU or other heatsinks or not.

Nov 17, 2007, 01:00 PM	#39
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	so, how's it going? have you got all hardware for your computer yet?

Nov 17, 2007, 03:49 PM	#41
savo_x86 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	go for ati 3850 256mb ddr3...it's in the 8600gts price range and it's almost double in performance...