Budget System (Suggestion for Parts)

**kris23** · Dec 19, 2007, 02:00 AM

no prob dude, need anything else?

neezee · Dec 19, 2007, 02:42 AM

nope dont think so man, everything seems to be good now... thx again for the help/info

i think my patriot memory is better than the transcend memory as i paid $10 for it...

**kris23** · Dec 19, 2007, 03:43 AM

hey dude do you live in the US? if so, why are you buying from NCIX of all places?

neezee · Dec 19, 2007, 04:01 AM

a... canada but the dude lives in the states... u know of any other places cuz in canada theres nuff good online sites but i find that for the US theres not as many i can name 4 off the top of my head... and doesnt ncix price match? idk...

NCIX
frys
newegg
buy

if u got any i missed that would be cool...

**kris23** · Dec 19, 2007, 02:03 PM

well theres newegg

zipzoomfly

directron

theres a crap load but alot of them arent worth the hassle

frys kinda sucks in my opinion, WAAAY overpriced

newegg is the best

**kris23** · Dec 19, 2007, 02:06 PM

you can always look at the online retailers list on DH, there are many specialty stores where you can buy stuff

josh2thad · Dec 19, 2007, 05:46 PM

I would also go with the E2140 if you plan on overclocking.

Its bases on the same core as the E4300 i do believe, and i loved mine it overclocked 100% with decent temps, and i ran source games just fine with a 7900 gs. I personally would go with an 8600GTS or 3850.

You should be able to get that CPU to 3.2 no problem with decent ram.

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 12:56 AM

hes going with an E2180, little more expensive but still very good!

then hes going with Crucial DDR2 800 D9GMH VERY powerful sticks of RAM for the price

His videocard is an HD 3850 256mb, most powerful in its price range

hes pretty much all set.....

oh yea i think you can get a bigger HDD at newegg, i recommend seagate for the smaller sizes and WD for the bigger sizes.

neezee · Dec 20, 2007, 04:53 AM

ahhh the E4300... thats the uber C2D i believe aka cheap and overclockable, thats wat i was suggestin @ first but its been replaced by the E4400... i think... yea ill check the retailer lists @ DH, i thought NCiX priced match, no?... many thx to every1 who posted... special thx to kris23...

got some more things to ask now though... goin bak after im finished up wit exams and my friend is askin me to help build a new comp. for him.. he suggests a E6600 + 8800GT... any thoughts? i do believe that with any current mobo out now it wont support 45nm? also another friend also wants a new comp and wants to play crysis (ugh) but unless he gets an SLi 8800GT/GTX/Ultra i think its pretty much impossible to set the settings on high and get decent fps... im behind in my tech news cuz of exams/been a long time since i looked at this suff... wat do u guys think???

thx,
neezee

EDIT: i just glanced @ another thread aka the new mobo one... so x38 mobo will b able to support 45nm?

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 05:41 AM

lets address that first question about the motherboards.

all the 3x series intel chipsets support 45nm processors, this includes chips such as G33, G35, G31, P31, P35 and X38

the nvidia 780i chipset also supports the 45nm CPUs

an E6600 is no longer being made by intel and is replaced by the cheaper e6550 and e6750, both being superior processors.

the Q6600 is the best choice though

an 8800GT is a fine card but with the 8800GTS, it is beaten and is all around more powerful and OCable

and for the guy who wants to build a system for Crysis at high, he will need a liquid cooled Q6600 or X3220 Xeon OCed to 3.8GHz, and dual 8800GTS's

i recommend EVGA

now thats just a general statement, if you want me to go in detail for each setup, i will man

neezee · Dec 20, 2007, 05:55 AM

hmmm interesting... i can still get the e6600, and im going to assume that the 6600 o/cs better than the 6650? the new 8800GTS are better than the GT as in the 512bm ones, have yet to read a review on the 512mb GTS' yet... i though evga wasnt that great or am i thinkin about XFX?

oh and plz do go into more detail just 1set up the non-crysis one... try to be as frugal as possible

cant thank u enough...

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neezee

hmmm interesting... i can still get the e6600, and im going to assume that the 6600 o/cs better than the 6650? the new 8800GTS are better than the GT as in the 512bm ones, have yet to read a review on the 512mb GTS' yet... i though evga wasnt that great or am i thinkin about XFX?

oh and plz do go into more detail... try to be as frugal as possible

thx...

the thing is that more than likely, the e6600 is a B3 stepping or older as it has been replaced by its 1333mhz FSB counterparts on the MUCH better G0 stepping (G0's OC FAR better than their B3 and lower counterparts) also theres no e6650 man, not that i know of anyway....

EVGA is the best around here man, the most wanted cards in the industry, the most OCed cards in the industry, the best warranty in the industry

frugal huh? not my strong suite but it should come out with something.

lets see, first ill start with the e6600 guy:

Newegg.com - ASUS P5K-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Conroe 2.33GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
OR
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail

Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N802-A1 GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKA1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 550W Power Supply - Retail
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM

aww man... i cant be cheap, but i DID show you the best bang for the buck components one can get their hands on, theres nothing better at my high quality standards

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 06:20 AM

now for the crazy one that wants to play Crysis on high:

Newegg.com - EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (overpriced, buy at evga.com)
Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail (dual)
Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail (two sets)
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
Swiftech H2O-220 Compact CPU Liquid Cool Kit Products Model: H20-220-COMPACT [H20-220-COMPACT] : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come (yes man, i AM insane)
Newegg.com - Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM (dual, i am VERY insane)

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKR3-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 1000W Power Supply - Retail (yes it takes this much to run Crysis on high settings)

neezee · Dec 20, 2007, 06:23 AM

good good D9 memory bein used... i think im gettin some of this new stuff... ahahaha

guy was thinkin about gettin an asus maximus, thoughts? a... isnt it that with processers u want the older steppin as its better for OCing? so the e6550>Q6600 / old Q6600>new Q6600?

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 06:28 AM

no no, the newer the stepping the better, G0 is the best for OCing

it runs at a mere 95w and lower vs B3-B2 thats 105-130 (more power = more heat = enemy of CPU and pwning-ness)

also, for the first guy, the Maximus Formula is a VERY good board, of you can afford it anyway, if so then buy it!

neezee · Dec 20, 2007, 06:31 AM

k man thx for all the info ill get back @ u after i talk to these guys...

thx

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 06:32 AM

u welcome dude

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 06:39 AM

ok yea, if you choose the 830 case, be careful its HUUUGE!

2 feet long by 2 feet high and 10 inches wide, unmatched in cooling and will never be matched for a while

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2007, 02:16 PM

lol 10 inches thick.
kris23, you are very good at these types of threads, and you are a very dedicated member.

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

lol 10 inches thick.
kris23, you are very good at these types of threads, and you are a very dedicated member.

thanks for the compliment man, appreciate it.

those measurements are probably 1/2 inch off, just a rough measurement since the case is right next to me and i have a measuring tape right here.

now that im on Christmas vacation as of yesterday, got all the free time in the world.

PangingJr · Dec 20, 2007, 05:21 PM

yea you meant the width size so i think your were right.

**kris23** · Dec 20, 2007, 05:25 PM

lol there its changed, 10 inches WIDE

man.... with all the stress from exams, my mind is messed up, but now theres no stress so im good

Dec 19, 2007, 02:00 AM	#31
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	no prob dude, need anything else? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 19, 2007, 02:42 AM	Thread Starter #32
neezee HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: canada Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	nope dont think so man, everything seems to be good now... thx again for the help/info i think my patriot memory is better than the transcend memory as i paid $10 for it... __________________ • DH's Chopper Challenge Dominator • DH's Donkey Kong Dominator • DH's Simon Dominator • DH's Snake Dominator • DH's Worms 3D Dominator • Last edited by neezee; Dec 19, 2007 at 02:58 AM.

Dec 19, 2007, 03:43 AM	#33
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	hey dude do you live in the US? if so, why are you buying from NCIX of all places? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 19, 2007, 04:01 AM	Thread Starter #34
neezee HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: canada Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	a... canada but the dude lives in the states... u know of any other places cuz in canada theres nuff good online sites but i find that for the US theres not as many i can name 4 off the top of my head... and doesnt ncix price match? idk... NCIX frys newegg buy if u got any i missed that would be cool... __________________ • DH's Chopper Challenge Dominator • DH's Donkey Kong Dominator • DH's Simon Dominator • DH's Snake Dominator • DH's Worms 3D Dominator •

Dec 19, 2007, 02:03 PM	#35
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	well theres newegg zipzoomfly directron theres a crap load but alot of them arent worth the hassle frys kinda sucks in my opinion, WAAAY overpriced newegg is the best __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 19, 2007, 02:06 PM	#36
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	you can always look at the online retailers list on DH, there are many specialty stores where you can buy stuff __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 19, 2007, 05:46 PM	#37
josh2thad DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0	I would also go with the E2140 if you plan on overclocking. Its bases on the same core as the E4300 i do believe, and i loved mine it overclocked 100% with decent temps, and i ran source games just fine with a 7900 gs. I personally would go with an 8600GTS or 3850. You should be able to get that CPU to 3.2 no problem with decent ram. __________________ www.proxywad.com *DeskTop* • Q6600 8MB Cache (400x8) 3.2 [Schythe Ninja Plus REV.b] • 4Gb DDR2 800 @888 [CL 5-4-4-12]• MSI P52 Neo 2 • Slient Cooling • XFX 8800 GTS XXX Edition [600/1800] • Thermaltake Tough power • 2.250GB Segate [Storage] Western Digital 320GB 16MB Cache Master• Lappy•Gateway MT6458 • AMD Turion X2 1.6Ghz • 2x 1GB DDR 2 PC 5400 CL 4-4-4-12 • 15.4 X-tra Birght Widescreen [Glossy] 1280x800 ATI x1150 128 MB• 160Gb HDD • Wireless N 300mbps •

Dec 20, 2007, 12:56 AM	#38
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	hes going with an E2180, little more expensive but still very good! then hes going with Crucial DDR2 800 D9GMH VERY powerful sticks of RAM for the price His videocard is an HD 3850 256mb, most powerful in its price range hes pretty much all set..... oh yea i think you can get a bigger HDD at newegg, i recommend seagate for the smaller sizes and WD for the bigger sizes. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 20, 2007, 04:53 AM	Thread Starter #39
neezee HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: canada Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	ahhh the E4300... thats the uber C2D i believe aka cheap and overclockable, thats wat i was suggestin @ first but its been replaced by the E4400... i think... yea ill check the retailer lists @ DH, i thought NCiX priced match, no?... many thx to every1 who posted... special thx to kris23... got some more things to ask now though... goin bak after im finished up wit exams and my friend is askin me to help build a new comp. for him.. he suggests a E6600 + 8800GT... any thoughts? i do believe that with any current mobo out now it wont support 45nm? also another friend also wants a new comp and wants to play crysis (ugh) but unless he gets an SLi 8800GT/GTX/Ultra i think its pretty much impossible to set the settings on high and get decent fps... im behind in my tech news cuz of exams/been a long time since i looked at this suff... wat do u guys think??? thx, neezee EDIT: i just glanced @ another thread aka the new mobo one... so x38 mobo will b able to support 45nm? __________________ • DH's Chopper Challenge Dominator • DH's Donkey Kong Dominator • DH's Simon Dominator • DH's Snake Dominator • DH's Worms 3D Dominator •

Dec 20, 2007, 05:41 AM	#40
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	lets address that first question about the motherboards. all the 3x series intel chipsets support 45nm processors, this includes chips such as G33, G35, G31, P31, P35 and X38 the nvidia 780i chipset also supports the 45nm CPUs an E6600 is no longer being made by intel and is replaced by the cheaper e6550 and e6750, both being superior processors. the Q6600 is the best choice though an 8800GT is a fine card but with the 8800GTS, it is beaten and is all around more powerful and OCable and for the guy who wants to build a system for Crysis at high, he will need a liquid cooled Q6600 or X3220 Xeon OCed to 3.8GHz, and dual 8800GTS's i recommend EVGA now thats just a general statement, if you want me to go in detail for each setup, i will man __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 20, 2007, 05:55 AM	Thread Starter #41
neezee HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: canada Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	hmmm interesting... i can still get the e6600, and im going to assume that the 6600 o/cs better than the 6650? the new 8800GTS are better than the GT as in the 512bm ones, have yet to read a review on the 512mb GTS' yet... i though evga wasnt that great or am i thinkin about XFX? oh and plz do go into more detail just 1set up the non-crysis one... try to be as frugal as possible cant thank u enough... __________________ • DH's Chopper Challenge Dominator • DH's Donkey Kong Dominator • DH's Simon Dominator • DH's Snake Dominator • DH's Worms 3D Dominator • Last edited by neezee; Dec 20, 2007 at 06:04 AM.

Dec 20, 2007, 06:20 AM	#43
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	now for the crazy one that wants to play Crysis on high: Newegg.com - EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (overpriced, buy at evga.com) Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail (dual) Newegg.com - Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail (two sets) Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail Swiftech H2O-220 Compact CPU Liquid Cool Kit Products Model: H20-220-COMPACT [H20-220-COMPACT] : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come (yes man, i AM insane) Newegg.com - Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM (dual, i am VERY insane) Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKR3-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case Real Power Pro 1000W Power Supply - Retail (yes it takes this much to run Crysis on high settings) __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 20, 2007, 06:23 AM	Thread Starter #44
neezee HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: canada Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	good good D9 memory bein used... i think im gettin some of this new stuff... ahahaha guy was thinkin about gettin an asus maximus, thoughts? a... isnt it that with processers u want the older steppin as its better for OCing? so the e6550>Q6600 / old Q6600>new Q6600? __________________ • DH's Chopper Challenge Dominator • DH's Donkey Kong Dominator • DH's Simon Dominator • DH's Snake Dominator • DH's Worms 3D Dominator •

Dec 20, 2007, 06:28 AM	#45
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	no no, the newer the stepping the better, G0 is the best for OCing it runs at a mere 95w and lower vs B3-B2 thats 105-130 (more power = more heat = enemy of CPU and pwning-ness) also, for the first guy, the Maximus Formula is a VERY good board, of you can afford it anyway, if so then buy it! __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 20, 2007, 06:31 AM	Thread Starter #46
neezee HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: canada Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	k man thx for all the info ill get back @ u after i talk to these guys... thx __________________ • DH's Chopper Challenge Dominator • DH's Donkey Kong Dominator • DH's Simon Dominator • DH's Snake Dominator • DH's Worms 3D Dominator •

Dec 20, 2007, 06:32 AM	#47
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	u welcome dude __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Dec 20, 2007, 06:39 AM	#48
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	ok yea, if you choose the 830 case, be careful its HUUUGE! 2 feet long by 2 feet high and 10 inches wide, unmatched in cooling and will never be matched for a while __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums! Last edited by kris23; Dec 20, 2007 at 05:23 PM.

Dec 20, 2007, 02:16 PM	#49
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	lol 10 inches thick. kris23, you are very good at these types of threads, and you are a very dedicated member.

Dec 20, 2007, 05:21 PM	#51
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	yea you meant the width size so i think your were right.

Dec 20, 2007, 05:25 PM	#52
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	lol there its changed, 10 inches WIDE man.... with all the stress from exams, my mind is messed up, but now theres no stress so im good __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!