computer randomly shutting down

g35x · Jan 21, 2008, 04:01 AM

specs:
intel Q6600 quad-core
ati x1950gt
2gbs OCZ ddr2
gigabyte mobo (can get exact model if needed)

I am getting random shut-downs.
sometimes it is before the computer boots windows, sometimes after it gets into windows and have been on for about a minute, but it never lasts more than a minute.

I have tried using different outlets (even different outlets in different rooms of my house), different power cables, unplugging some of my hardware (dvd drive, using only one stick of ram, tried both sticks alone and still no good), setting bios back to default settings, basically tried everything except a different power supply, which I do not have on hand.

computer totally shuts off, not just one component, all case lights go out and everything turns off, it just basically loses power.

any more suggestions before I order a new psu?
if you need more detailed specs lmk.

**kris23** · Jan 21, 2008, 04:03 AM

PSU is the problem..... i wouldnt get one less than 600w

i recommend the Corsair TX750 decent specs for the price.

g35x · Jan 21, 2008, 04:07 AM

I just build this pc last month, I bought everything brand new except for the videocard, here is my power supply Newegg.com - HIPER HPU-4M480-PS ATX12V v2.2 480W Power Supply 100 - 120V AC cUL,TUV,CB,CE,FCC - Retail

I guess I should contact the manufacturer huh? and see about a replacement.

**kris23** · Jan 21, 2008, 04:23 AM

why did you go for such a weak PSU?

i mean 480w isnt exactly close to powering todays higher rigs properly......

im really not surprised that that thing is giving out on you. getting a replacement is a good idea but that thing is just too weak for my tastes....

running a psu at 80% and higher isnt a good idea....

g35x · Jan 21, 2008, 04:33 AM

well it was working fine until today

**kris23** · Jan 21, 2008, 04:40 AM

the load is pretty high for that things specs man.....

most people around here run PSUs 20% more or less

the things run cooler and the voltage is cleaner

i dunno too much about hiper either....

cozumel · Jan 21, 2008, 04:47 AM

The Hyper M Series is meant to be quite good. Got a favorable review here and elsewhere I think.

g35x · Jan 21, 2008, 04:52 AM

yeah, oddly enough even though the psu died I have no resent towards this company, the RMA process was very easy, I'm sending it out for RMA tommorow and then just going to keep the one they send me laying around for a future budget build possibly, and buying a 750watt or something for this computer.

CDsDontBurn · Jan 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

i'm confused now. did it die, or is it causing your machine to shut down as you said in your original post?

**kris23** · Jan 21, 2008, 04:29 PM

causing it to shut down, happens when a PSU is at its breaking point, and when the PSU is near its end of operations, or a combination of both......

CDsDontBurn · Jan 21, 2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

causing it to shut down, happens when a PSU is at its breaking point, and when the PSU is near its end of operations, or a combination of both......

i know that. but in the OP, he said that his machine was shutting off randomly. this would indicate that the PSU still works, but not with his current machine as it too powerful for his PSU. then in his last post, he said that it was dead. which is confusing me. a dead PSU would indicate that the PSU no longerfunctions at all and the machine would not turn on at all.

**kris23** · Jan 21, 2008, 06:04 PM

i think he meant that it wasnt working properly

g35x · Jan 22, 2008, 05:21 AM

yes I was saying it was dead because I thought it was why I was getting the random shutdowns but turns out my hsf was loose and it was overheating, stupid stock Q660 hsf, thx for the help guys

CDsDontBurn · Jan 22, 2008, 07:15 AM

so, are you still going to upgrade your PSU at least though?

g35x · Jan 23, 2008, 12:09 AM

possibly,but i dunno,since its working again i may just let it be

Tipstaff · Jan 23, 2008, 01:13 AM

PSU is fine. The fact that the system was booting up indicates it was either a device conflict (or driver conflict), a virus, or that your system is overheating.

Although it doesn't look it, your system specs will run fine on a 480w PSU. If you calculate everything out you are drawing close to 400w when under load (350w under idle). When you decide to upgrade your video card to something more powerful though, that's when I would consider upgrading your PSU since most cards above the one you have (even an X1950XT) usually requires a minimum 450w PSU. Until then you should be fine.

g35x · Jan 23, 2008, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

PSU is fine. The fact that the system was booting up indicates it was either a device conflict (or driver conflict), a virus, or that your system is overheating.

Although it doesn't look it, your system specs will run fine on a 480w PSU. If you calculate everything out you are drawing close to 400w when under load (350w under idle). When you decide to upgrade your video card to something more powerful though, that's when I would consider upgrading your PSU since most cards above the one you have (even an X1950XT) usually requires a minimum 450w PSU. Until then you should be fine.

yeah, I can't justify spending $100 on a 750w psu when it is currently running fine, but when I upgrade a my videocard, that will be another story and I will be sure to upgrade my psu as well.

thanks tipstaff, and everyone else
I'd be so lost without everyone here at DH

Jan 21, 2008, 04:01 AM	#1
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	computer randomly shutting down specs: intel Q6600 quad-core ati x1950gt 2gbs OCZ ddr2 gigabyte mobo (can get exact model if needed) I am getting random shut-downs. sometimes it is before the computer boots windows, sometimes after it gets into windows and have been on for about a minute, but it never lasts more than a minute. I have tried using different outlets (even different outlets in different rooms of my house), different power cables, unplugging some of my hardware (dvd drive, using only one stick of ram, tried both sticks alone and still no good), setting bios back to default settings, basically tried everything except a different power supply, which I do not have on hand. computer totally shuts off, not just one component, all case lights go out and everything turns off, it just basically loses power. any more suggestions before I order a new psu? if you need more detailed specs lmk. __________________

Jan 21, 2008, 04:03 AM	#2
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	PSU is the problem..... i wouldnt get one less than 600w i recommend the Corsair TX750 decent specs for the price. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 21, 2008, 04:07 AM	Thread Starter #3
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	I just build this pc last month, I bought everything brand new except for the videocard, here is my power supply Newegg.com - HIPER HPU-4M480-PS ATX12V v2.2 480W Power Supply 100 - 120V AC cUL,TUV,CB,CE,FCC - Retail I guess I should contact the manufacturer huh? and see about a replacement. __________________

Jan 21, 2008, 04:23 AM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	why did you go for such a weak PSU? i mean 480w isnt exactly close to powering todays higher rigs properly...... im really not surprised that that thing is giving out on you. getting a replacement is a good idea but that thing is just too weak for my tastes.... running a psu at 80% and higher isnt a good idea.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 21, 2008, 04:33 AM	Thread Starter #5
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	well it was working fine until today __________________

Jan 21, 2008, 04:40 AM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	the load is pretty high for that things specs man..... most people around here run PSUs 20% more or less the things run cooler and the voltage is cleaner i dunno too much about hiper either.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 21, 2008, 04:47 AM	#7
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Jan 21, 2008, 04:52 AM	Thread Starter #8
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	yeah, oddly enough even though the psu died I have no resent towards this company, the RMA process was very easy, I'm sending it out for RMA tommorow and then just going to keep the one they send me laying around for a future budget build possibly, and buying a 750watt or something for this computer. __________________

Jan 21, 2008, 10:38 AM	#9
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	i'm confused now. did it die, or is it causing your machine to shut down as you said in your original post? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 21, 2008, 04:29 PM	#10
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	causing it to shut down, happens when a PSU is at its breaking point, and when the PSU is near its end of operations, or a combination of both...... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 21, 2008, 06:04 PM	#12
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	i think he meant that it wasnt working properly __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 22, 2008, 05:21 AM	Thread Starter #13
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	yes I was saying it was dead because I thought it was why I was getting the random shutdowns but turns out my hsf was loose and it was overheating, stupid stock Q660 hsf, thx for the help guys __________________

Jan 22, 2008, 07:15 AM	#14
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	so, are you still going to upgrade your PSU at least though? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jan 23, 2008, 12:09 AM	Thread Starter #15
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	possibly,but i dunno,since its working again i may just let it be __________________

Jan 23, 2008, 01:13 AM	#16
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,660 Rep Power: 187 System Specs	PSU is fine. The fact that the system was booting up indicates it was either a device conflict (or driver conflict), a virus, or that your system is overheating. Although it doesn't look it, your system specs will run fine on a 480w PSU. If you calculate everything out you are drawing close to 400w when under load (350w under idle). When you decide to upgrade your video card to something more powerful though, that's when I would consider upgrading your PSU since most cards above the one you have (even an X1950XT) usually requires a minimum 450w PSU. Until then you should be fine. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.