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Old Mar 25, 2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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RAM price drop what the heck????

Why did DDR2 RAM drop DRAMATICALLY in price?
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Old Mar 25, 2008, 06:17 PM   #2
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DDR3, and DDR2 is kinda considered EOL (end of life) by manufacturers.
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Old Mar 25, 2008, 06:31 PM   #3
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Actually the chip makers had over produced DDR memory chips so their warehouses were full now they have cut back production. And the price will go up before summer.
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Well I personally think GSkill was the first to actually drop there prices by half a year ago then the rest followed behind the band wagon so my applaud to GSkill! It may be the End of line for some but its a brand new beginning for others able to afford it now afterall 4G of ram for $60 was unheard of years ago let alone Quality DDR2...
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i want to build a new machine, and i will hopefully be able to do so soon. but, now that DDR2 is on it's way out and DDR3 is the "new thing", i'll be looking for DDR3. it's just so expensive though!
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you think DDR3 is expensive? if i want more ram i need to go buy FB-DIMMS - now there's expensive
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haha. you're right on that one .
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Expensive was when 4 MEG was in the $60.00 range.

Around the same time I remember getting a Quantum 3.1 Gig HDD, and was happy that I only paid 175.00 for it.

I also remember when the company I was programming for BOUGHT an IBM System 38. That puppy had 64K of memory, 3 HDAs (Hard Drive Asssembly), for a total of 1.5 gig, plus another 64 meg drive in the mainframe. Also had two tape drives and a 1100 LPM printer. My 'puter-penis' was HUGE with that rascal, and I could look down and sneer at other programmers. It was a kick-ass system, and it 'only' cost us $250,000!

My, my how times have changed.
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I remember when (though I did pay too much for it, even then) in 1987 I paid for half a megabyte and installation on my atari ST, about 120 euros.
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try the tandy 1000 i got over here that has a massive 512kb "NOT STICK, CARD more like it" jammed into it.. still has a pricetag on it.... flipping $899 wtf!
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Expensive was when 4 MEG was in the $60.00 range.

Around the same time I remember getting a Quantum 3.1 Gig HDD, and was happy that I only paid 175.00 for it.

I also remember when the company I was programming for BOUGHT an IBM System 38. That puppy had 64K of memory, 3 HDAs (Hard Drive Asssembly), for a total of 1.5 gig, plus another 64 meg drive in the mainframe. Also had two tape drives and a 1100 LPM printer. My 'puter-penis' was HUGE with that rascal, and I could look down and sneer at other programmers. It was a kick-ass system, and it 'only' cost us $250,000!

My, my how times have changed.
! how long ago was that?! 1960's?
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CDB: I think that was in the 80's
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Yeah, 1980 for the System 38. It was a beast in its day.

It used RAID before RAID was named The system I was on had 3 HDAs of .5 gig each. Now each HDA had two read/write heads. When you put a file on it, instead of specifying exactly where it was to go by cylinder and length like you did on the 360's aand Sys 3, the OS would spread it out across all 3 HDAs. Now this was nice for speed, but...in the early days of the 38 there was a bad bunch of HDAs, and they would occasionally crash. At that point you were fooked until IBM could get a new one installed. This normally meant that they would buy a seat on an airplane, and fly one up from Boca Ratan. Then install the rascal. This would take a day or so. Then, since part of the data was missing, ALL of the data on the HDA's was garbage. So, in our case, we would re-load the master file (which we backed up every week on TAPE, and kept 3 versions of) back onto the the HDA's. Now, it would take 20-24 2400' reels of tape to hold our master file, and would take about 6-8 hours to re-load it, since the tape drives were slow. Then, after it was reloaded, you would start a program and....

The 38 didn't use lots of individual files. It would use one big master file, and then make indexes, called logical views, which it used to process the file in whatever sequence you wanted, and only using certain parts of the data for each file. Now when you started the first program after a crash and restore, the OS would see that it needed the logical view, and start to build it, than it would notice that it needed ALL the logical views, and start to create them as well. As fast as the 38 was for it's day, that was a job that slowed it to a crawl. In our case, once it started building the first logical view, it would take close to 40 HOURS of continuious running to complete!

AHHH, the good old days....maybe they weren't a good as we like to think.

OR, maybe it's because I wasn't OLD, it's not the DAYS that I remembered, and I wasn't always GOOD
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Try 90's. Some 4x9 parity chips for my 386sx were more expensive than that.
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man, i came into this whole tech scene when SDR66 was first coming into the market. that was what? 1998 or something like that?

my parents bought me a compaq presario something or other, and me being the curious little bugger i was, decided to take it apart and put it back together again. a year later, my parents bought me an HP pavilion something (which i still have btw), and i took that thing apart so many times it's not even funny, lol. i remember that when i went to go build my first machine i had to canibalize my HP machine to use in my first build, haha.

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all of the available very high speed DDR3's (DDR3-1900+, DDR3-2000+) today are (still) very expensive.
but not all of the available FB-DIMM DDR2 memory are too expensive, today, there's a more lower prices modules available.
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I wonder how much real life performance difference exists between a good DDR2 and a DDR3 system.
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right now, probably not much. unless you want to run your new conroe e6x50, wolfsdale or penryn CPU 1333 FSB at a 1:1 ratio with your RAM.

it's kinda hard to do with DDR2 RAM.
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I wonder how much real life performance difference exists between a good DDR2 and a DDR3 system.
i can't say for sure yet, but i think, if the platform does not support using a high speed DDR3, or you can't afford buying a high speed DDR3's, this because you don't want to spend that much of a money on just for system memory, then DDR3 is not working that well in your system yet. and DDR2 is still best used for you.

only your platform supports using a high speed DDR3, and only you can afford using a high speed DDR3. then DDR3 contributes best to maximizing the bandwidth available to application data, and DRR3 has more energy efficient than ever.
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