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Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
I just installed some new hardware. It's fast, but I am pissed as my mobo won't let me get the 1066 memory it said it supported. It only goes to 800 at 5-5-5-15 timings.
Specs. MB GIGABYTE GA-MA790FX-DS5 AM2+ MEM 1Gx4|KST KHX8500D2K4/4G 4GB KIT 1066MHZ DDR2-NON-ECC CL5 DIMM CPU AMD|A64 X2 6400 3.2G AM2 (2) HIS 3870's running Crossfire WD Raptor and Maxtor 300gb hd 700 Thermaltake Toughpower Any help would be appreciated. Thx, Shammy
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you will need to overclock a bit to get 1066.... being and AMD platform I couldnt tell you the exact settings. But I am sure someone could help you out
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Yeah the mobo doesn't even give you the option of auto tuning to 1066. I with I knew the timings and voltages to unlock it.
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memory timings and vdimm are not the problem.
for DDR2-1066, a standard timings setting is 5-5-5-15, vdimm requirement will be between 2.0V-2.2V depending on your board and memory module itself, some are required less/more voltage than the others. what are you looking for is a memory divider setting in your BIOS setup program, which may or may not be already exist on your board's BIOS/CMOS menu setting. |
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Yeah I got thr timings set in the bios, I have the voltage set also. It just won't let me go past 800mhz in the mobo. This mobo said it supported 1066 mhz ddr2.
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i don't know man. i haven't a clue about your board and its chipset.
now about the supported DDR2-1066MHz.... as far as my experience go, there are 2 kinds of support. one is, you get a DDR2-1066 on your first system boots (with a standard vdimm already given to the DIMMs), this when you installed DDR2-1066 (with a SPD data for running DDR2-1066) onto a board that's said to support DDR2-1066. as long as DDR2-1066 is in use, you can manual enter memory timings and vdimm, as you preferred settings, the system will boot and config to use DDR2-1066 on every system boots and the system/CPU won't need to be overclocked to run DDR2-1066, you also don't have to set the memory clock/speed or divider/ratio, these settings can be left at Auto. this may not be 100 percent true on every boards/memory modules. another one is, a support by overclocking... this one is like, the system chipset/memory controller is tune and may provide a divider to run DDR2-1066 without problem. this one may or may not have exactly same support as the above. Last edited by PangingJr; Mar 31, 2008 at 01:47 PM. |
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Yeah I am at a loss. Some people are saying you can only get 1066 if you have a Phenom processor? IDK
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yeah i don't know about that either. wait for some people who uses the same type of motherboard platform and CPU with you to get involved here and help.
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Boy we are of no help are we Pang? Damn Intel boys we are lol
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At least every Manual I have read from Asus states: "DDR2 1066 is supported by some of the AM2+ CPU's only. Refer to ASUSTeK Computer for the supported CPU models and the memory Qualified Vendors Lists"
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Yeah I got an AM2 processor. Damn. Said 1066 on the mobo box and on the memory. Well my machine is uber fast right now. I finished Crysis on very high settings in 2 days without a hiccup after some OC'ing. The only reason I didn'r get a Phenom is on New Egg everyone said this board wouldn't work with one without a bios revision. I plan on upgrading to one if I can ever get my heatsink off this bitch. I mean I had to push down with all my weight to get it to snap in. I weight 210 6'2" lol.
Thanks for the input.
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This is the reply I recieved from Kingston...
Hello Mark, Please check your processors documentation as it must be capable of also supporting 1066MHz memory. Here are the timings for the memory. If these don't work then sorry to say it's not compatible with your system even though you may have a processor that supports 1066MHz memory. SPD Loads 800MHz [COLOR=red]5[/COLOR] Cas Latency (CL) [COLOR=red]5[/COLOR] Ras to Cas Delay or Row to Column Delay (tRCD) [COLOR=red]5[/COLOR] Row Precharge Delay or Ras Precharge Delay (trp or tRCP) [COLOR=red]15[/COLOR] Row Active Delay or Ras Active to Precharge Delay or Time to Ready (tra, trd or tRAS) [COLOR=red]1[/COLOR] Command Rate (CMD) Please note not all bios will have this setting [COLOR=red]1.8[/COLOR] Voltage Module Max 1066MHz [COLOR=red]5[/COLOR] Cas Latency (CL) [COLOR=red]5[/COLOR] Ras to Cas Delay or Row to Column Delay (tRCD) [COLOR=red]5[/COLOR] Row Precharge Delay or Ras Precharge Delay (trp or tRCP) [COLOR=red]15[/COLOR] Row Active Delay or Ras Active to Precharge Delay or Time to Ready (tra, trd or tRAS) [COLOR=red]1[/COLOR] Command Rate (CMD) Please note not all bios will have this setting [COLOR=red]2.2[/COLOR] Voltage SPD Loads are the default timings and how the module will run when it is simply plugged in the motherboard and turned on. Module Max is the maximum settings the module can be overclocked to via BIOS settings. Any other setting not listed here must be left to their default positions. If this memory does not run properly after setting the timings, please return the memory to the place of purchase within their return policy for a refund as they may not be compatible with your motherboard. You may also wish to obtain our conventional DDR memory not geared for overclocking by using our online memory configurator at: http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/mfrmod.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com Standard Memory: 0 [COLOR=#2c2c2c]MB[/COLOR] (Removable) Maximum Memory: 8 [COLOR=#2c2c2c]GB[/COLOR] with current Kingston modules 16 [COLOR=#2c2c2c]GB[/COLOR] with release of 4GB modules Expansion: 4 Sockets CPU & ChipSet: AMD Athlon 64 (AM2) AMD 790FX AMD Athlon 64 FX (AM2) AMD 790FX AMD Athlon 64 X2 (AM2) AMD 790FX AMD Sempron (AM2) AMD 790FX AMD Phenom FX (AM2+) AMD 790FX AMD Phenom (AM2+) AMD 790FX Bus Architecture: PCI; [COLOR=#2c2c2c]PCI[/COLOR] Express; [COLOR=#2c2c2c]USB[/COLOR] Mfgr's System P/N's: N/A Comments [COLOR=Yellow]DDR2-1066 is supported by AM2+ CPUs only. [/COLOR] At 1066MHz, this system supports up to two single rank modules ONLY. MODULES MUST BE ORDERED AND INSTALLED IN PAIRS for Dual Channel mode. Kingston offers "K2" [COLOR=#2c2c2c]Kit[/COLOR] part numbers for Dual Channel mode. AMD Sempron processors support DDR2-533 and DDR2-667 memory only. Faster speeds are not supported. This system supports both [COLOR=#2c2c2c]ECC[/COLOR] and non-ECC memory. Mixing [COLOR=#2c2c2c]ECC[/COLOR] and non-ECC modules is not recommended. If 4GB is installed, the recognized memory may be reduced to 3.5GB or less (depending on system configuration and memory allocation). Maximum configurations require a 64-bit operating system.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
I'm going through the same exact problem.
and as each day passes I get more and more angry about it. I just wish someone just comes out with a straight answer instead of these long dialogs & stories. By the way Phenom-II X4 940 comes in AM2+ flavor as well. and supposedly it does support 1066 mhz. I really hate it when the box of the motherboard says it supports 1066, and when people buy 1066 memory sticks, problems happens day in and day out. Then when you call Kingston for support, they say that don't know. because they have not tried the same setup as you . so they can't help. so then your stuck on no practical support from a company that makes the hardware. So if they don't know, who are you suppose to go for help to.? Is this some way of ASUSTEK's gimmick, informing their customers that their boards support 1066 when they actually don't.???? My box also says is supports 1066 in really large yellow letters accross the box. I have yet not been able to get 1066 working since I purchased the darn thing. And that was 2 years ago. Still as of today, im running 800 mhz (5,5,5,20) on my system with a Phenom-II 940 chip. And can not take advantage of my memory sticks like I am suppose to. So I am confused and wondering if this was a AsusTek promotional gimmick. because if it was, ITS NOT FUNNY. Big big reason why I will be changing my M3A motherboard Asus product. I am soon to move on to GigaByte motherboards and try them for a while,. I just can't believe til this day, that Kingston said to me they could not help me. I just can't get over that. been, and still is - bothering me for 2 years now. I feel for you "DJShamrock" I know exactly what you are going through. this is why users come HERE to this forum. In hopes that since they always do reviews and are pretty well know in the internet for that. and they mess around with millions of gears each year. That they would have a rather straight forward and clear answer to problems like this. MAIN - reason why I became a member here. Would be really cool if Driverheaven did a website section dedicated to just Video tutorials. So if someone had a problem like thhis, they can go view the video tutorial as it will guide you step by step on how to set your DDR2 & DDR3 overclocking settings properly. This way you can see how its properly done. wavelabs
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
@wavelabs
I don't know about the GigaByte motherboards, but I do know that the ASRock AOD790GX supports and USES 1066 if it has a PhII 940 CPU in it. I just built a system for a friend using that MB/CPU and Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066, and it is running at 1066. @DJShamrock If you are trying to run an Athlon 64 X2 6400+ using 1066 RAM, it's ony going to use it at 800. Thats because the memory controller is in the CPU and not on the MB.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
MB GIGABYTE GA-MA790FX-DS5 AM2+
I've got a GA-MA790X-DS4 AM2+ board, says it supposed to handle DDR II 8500 (1066) however, here's the catch. One stick of DDR II 1066 per channel otherwise it drops it all down to 800. Doesn't say that on the box, manual or on Newegg's site. I found this looking for drivers for Windows 7 on a comparison chart on Gigabytes website. I also found out my board has 2x PCI-E slots however only one is x16 when in crossfire it drops down both to x8. Was shown on the box that it was supposed to be two x16 slots. Needless to say I'm not happy with Gigabyte regarding their specs, how they mention it, advertising at all. I bought this board because at the time and for the money, I thought I was getting one of the best boards out there, as it turns out I was dead wrong about it. I should have went with MSI or ASUS. Check and double check your board and specs man, it might be that it actually doesn't handle what it was advertised to handle. Mine sure as hell didn't. Jand. |
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
Yeah the rule with standard Phenoms is DDR2 1066 1 DIMM per channel ALWAYS. unfortunately this is the case.
And anything less than a Phenom will not allow you to use anything higher than DDR2 800 because the memory controller is built into the chip not the modo like OldBuzzard stated Perhaps your motherboard could use a BIOS update to allow you some more functionality with DDR2 1066 EDIT Well DJ by your system specs at least I see that you are running an AMD 6400. "Well there's you problem" this CPU will not run anything higher than DDR2 800 even if the motherboard says that it will utilize DDR2 1066. The only way to get a little closer to running that RAM with that CPU would be to overclock the RAM and bring in the timings a little.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
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Oh that bites, I did not realize that. Damn, you do learn something new every day.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
Whats it mean by 1 dimm per channel? So it means 2 sticks of 1066mhz should be ok running at 1066mhz right? so if your mobo has 4 slots, only 2 slots can be used?
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
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If I understand this right then yeah if you want to run it at 1066 instead of 800, yeah. Why on earth they supply dual channel motherboards yet have this limitation is beyond me. Kind of defeats the purpose of being allowed to run faster memory yet not take advantage of having dual channel support. I'm not a memory expert by any means so I think this is the issue. Here's a question though, if you buy a new Phenom II chip and slap that into an AM2+ board instead of a AM3 board is there the same limitation on the mobo then since the memory controller is on the CPU? |
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
i think the limitation still applies. It's limitation on the chip.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
That really sucks.
so by what I am reading & understanding, you would either have to only use 2 slots for full 1066. and if you need more memory, each stick would then have to be 4 gigs each, but only using just 2 slots. Leaving 2 slots empty. in order to take advantage of the 1066 speeds. that sucks, that really really sucks.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
It sucks yes. There are 2 slots per channel, and each channel only take 1 1066mhz. Worth updating bios, some manufacturers may add support for higher speedsl, never tried it though.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
I have the same problem on Biostar TP 45 mobo with Intel E7200. It simply will not run @1066Mhz.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
Well I don't know about your Intel issue....this was pretty much all about AMD boards and processors so I would suggest that you repost if you have a question about an Intel setup.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
welcome GladiatorYU,
you will need to overclock your CPU a bit and/or adjust your multiplier to get 1066mhz.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
Thanks for reply, but overclocking didn't take me anywhere. All I get is "Overclock failed".
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
you may need to bump up volts by a few points, also, just bump up the CPU just enough to get the FSB to where you want it, you may even want to turn down the multiplier to keep the CPU from overheating
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
At this point I have tried all possible multipliers, all possible voltages etc. so basicly, I'm stuck. I've contacted Kingston and they replied to me that "moduls are tested @1066Mhz, and they work, but that doesn't mean that they will work on that frequency in my computer" (on my mobo). So that's it for me.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
That motherboard will easily handle 1066 and more.
BIOSTAR TForce TP45HP | BIOSTAR TForce TP45HP Motherboard LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Biostar Motherboard I am not familiar with the BIOS but you may have a memory strap or ratio set to "Auto" somewhere. I feel this is a BIOS setting issue and you shouldn't need to O/C anything to make this memory work.
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Re: Kingston Hyper X 1066 memory only showing 800? Any ideas?
Sorry for continuing this thread, but I just return that Kingston 1066MHz modules and take 2x2GB of Patriot PDC24G8500C7K Enhanced Latency, and it works like a charm. Right now it works @1080MHz. Same mobo, same processor...
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